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CUSTOMS:   trailer battery posted by: isaac ray on 2/26/2003 at 12:44:54 PM
i am now wiring my sound system and a wanted to know what is the best battery i should use. someone told me to use a marine type battery, since i am not using an alternator to keep the battery charged. is that true? any advice would be appreciated. thanks again in advance.

   RE:CUSTOMS:   trailer battery posted by James Donohue on 2/26/2003 at 3:09:32 PM
No, that's not true. Every marine battery needs to be recharged, thats why they sell photovoltaic panels for yachts.
You didn't say how many watts your stereo is, that makes a big difference. If it's less than 35 watts, you can get away with using a 7amphour 12volt gel cell, available in most hobby shops. That will save a lot of weight.
If your stereo is over 35 watts , the marine battery would be good. A lot of times you can buy a marine battery used for a good price.

   RE:RE:CUSTOMS:   trailer battery posted by JimW. on 2/26/2003 at 7:24:27 PM
Marine batteries are good for the purpose because they're designed for deep-cycle discharge. Car batteries are continuosly charged by the alternator. If you used one in deep-discharge (running it until the battery was dead, before recharging), the car battery wouldn't last very long, and they're expensive. Golf cart batteries are designed for deep discharge for the same reason.
Most gel-cell batteries, as used in emergency lighting systems, are designed for continuous charging until needed, so they don't work very well for deep-discharge either.

We used a motorcycle battery in the 2much!!! trike. They come in a lot of different sizes and capacities. They may not be deep-discharge, but they're cheap enough to replace fairly often, if needed. We got ours at Sears, for about $14. Marine batteries are much larger and heavier than motorcycle batteries, and so are golf cart batteries, although they have greater capacity than any motorcycle battery.

   RE:RE:RE:CUSTOMS: trailer battery posted by isaac ray on 2/28/2003 at 9:09:22 PM
thanks guys i think im going to go with the motocycle battery since im running low on funds. once again this site is awesome.

WANTED:   help! 3spd rear hub&spokes posted by: metlhed on 2/23/2003 at 7:15:36 PM
well i'm not sure if this is the place to post this but i will try.

can someone please help me with lacing my rims? i need to know how to do it or if there are any special tricks to doing it.

also, does anyone know how a rear 3 spd hub works? i need to see a diagram of one. how do i hook up a shifter wire? HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!


   RE:WANTED:   help! 3spd rear hub&spokes posted by sam on 2/24/2003 at 3:09:39 AM
Metlhed,that's too much for a post,but here's the site that tells it all--or about as close as you'll get!http://www.sheldonbrown.com/

   RE:WANTED:   help! 3spd rear hub&spokes posted by Brad on 3/1/2003 at 1:09:58 PM
If it is an internal 3 speed it should have a small shifter on the axle it will move in and out it will be just a little chrome piece that bolts on and what it does is it pushes a rod into the hub...i have one on my chopper

   RE:WANTED:   help! 3spd rear hub&spokes posted by Brad on 3/1/2003 at 1:10:09 PM
If it is an internal 3 speed it should have a small shifter on the axle it will move in and out it will be just a little chrome piece that bolts on and what it does is it pushes a rod into the hub...i have one on my chopper. hope that helps

   RE:WANTED:   help! 3spd rear hub&spokes posted by Catfood Rob on 3/8/2003 at 10:43:41 PM

   RE:WANTED:   help! 3spd rear hub&spokes posted by Kim on 3/11/2003 at 2:50:26 PM
There's a diagram of that hub on this site. Click on "General Resoruces" at the top of this page.

They also sell your 'shifter axle' it's called and Indicator Chain, too. Click on Parts For Sale at the top of this page.

MISC:   Drilling Dropouts/Banana Seat posted by: James Donohue on 2/23/2003 at 4:57:15 PM
Check Out http://gravitybike.com
they will tell you the truth:
You Must drill holes in the Dropouts of your BMX
so you can bolt the U bar to the bike. (sissy bar).

When you convert to a BANANA SEAT,
you will instantly feel the relief of between 90 and a million pounds of force that your wedgie seat formerly exerted against nerves and arteries in unmentionable
part of your body you sit on.
When you wave to the spandex crowd, notice the look of pain and discomfort on their faces as lifting a hand to wave back transfers their weight to the seat.
Put a banana seat on your bike.
You will never go back to a wedgie.

   RE:MISC:   Drilling Dropouts/Banana Seat posted by Skip on 2/25/2003 at 3:09:35 PM
James, I'm with you 100% on the 'spandex crowd' comment!

Those dope-snobs on their $2500 road bikes wearing another $500 of spandex suits and sunglasses just CAN NOT handle seeing us cruising on our muscle bikes and roadsters.

I love it!

   RE:RE:MISC:   Drilling Dropouts/Banana Seat posted by Brad on 3/1/2003 at 1:21:16 PM
I just wanted to say that on some bkes you dont have to drill anything you just bolt it onto the axle like did on my chopper which WAS a 20inch diamond back viper some guy ramped it and bent the headtube back so i cut it all off and put 4 foot forks on it.

MISC:   Our latest... posted by: VVVintage Vintage Bicycles, Inc. at OldRoads.com on 2/19/2003 at 5:11:05 PM
Check out our latest custom: "Red Chrome" on this page:


It's a 3-speed stik model based on a 1979 Schwinn Sting-Ray.

Vin - VVVintage Vintage Bicycles, Inc.

   RE:MISC:   Our latest... posted by James Donohue on 2/23/2003 at 4:54:32 PM
The 26" highTide model isn't bad either.
I have to recomend it to anyone who has outgrown
their 20" banana seat bike.
At $189.00, no one's gonna beat the price.

CUSTOMS:   BikeRod&Kustom down again posted by: JimW. on 2/14/2003 at 8:22:31 PM
It'll be back up on the 17th. You guys have obviously been telling your friends about it again. Will you never learn? 8-)

   RE:CUSTOMS:   BikeRod&Kustom down again posted by sam on 2/14/2003 at 9:12:06 PM
Quote from Jim W.:"that must mean that we're doing it right, eh? " It's a verrrrrry popular site,Jim,The guy that puts it together does an excelent job!What can we say--We like it----sam

   RE:RE:CUSTOMS:   BikeRod&Kustom down again posted by Rif on 3/1/2003 at 12:38:15 AM
Keep up the great work!

FOR SALE:   custom parts and frames posted by: jesse james on 2/13/2003 at 9:16:47 PM
I can do any kind of custom frame and most custom parts.go to www.macaoverlimits.com for more info

   RE:FOR SALE:   custom parts and frames posted by Cisco Kid on 2/14/2003 at 1:44:18 PM
Wots thet EW-AR-EL agin? Thun ewe gayve duznt werk.

   RE:RE:FOR SALE:   custom parts and frames posted by jimmy on 2/14/2003 at 5:28:13 PM
i think you meant the URL doesnt work, give it again!

   RE:FOR SALE:   custom parts and frames posted by Mike on 2/15/2003 at 10:19:47 PM
Are you the West Coast Choppers, Jesse James?

   RE:RE:FOR SALE:   custom parts and frames posted by jimmy on 2/17/2003 at 4:35:32 AM
highly unlikely mike, that one doesnt "surf" the web, he has emailed me and even told me that he doest!!! i have asked him to build me a tank for a bike and he simply relpied "make your own god damned tank!"

   RE:RE:RE:FOR SALE:   custom parts and frames posted by Mike on 2/21/2003 at 12:22:46 PM
One question remains who is the poser Jesse James?

   RE:RE:RE:RE:FOR SALE:   custom parts and frames posted by Skip on 2/25/2003 at 3:12:24 PM
Jesse James:
Has a show called "Monster Garage" on the Discovery Channel on Monday nights.

Last night they took a Mini Cooper and added 2 snowmobile engines and tracks to it so it could run on the road and on the snow.

It's a pretty cool show though Jesse gets a little tiring..

I wonder if they'll do one on motorized bicycles???!!

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:FOR SALE:   custom parts and frames posted by JimW. on 2/27/2003 at 9:05:00 PM
If they did one on motorized bicycles, they'd probably be turning one into one of those little joke bikes, or something equally stupid, like a scooter. I've only watched the show once. The episode I saw was about them taking a $150,000 Winston Cup stock car racer and turning it into a "street sweeper".

At first I thought it was going to be cool, as the gun culture refers to an automatic shotgun as a "street sweeper"; so I was anticipating something really fun. I imagined they'd be fitting the thing out with those
gatling-style helicopter miniguns, heat-seeking missiles and other really deadly s**t. So I turned it on and quickly realized that, no, they were just turning the thing into a machine which would actually sweep streets- with
rotating brushes and vacuum sucking. What the f**k!!! Sucking is right. Lamest d****d concept I've ever seen. What a waste of talent and money.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:FOR SALE:   custom parts and frames posted by jimmy on 2/27/2003 at 10:09:37 PM
Hey Jim. If they had to actually build something logical, there wouldnt be a challenge. The whole challenge is putting someithng like, lets say, a snowmobile, into a mini cooper. Or how about the one where they had to turn a school bus into a pontoon boat. If this wasn't enginered correctly, it would have sunk just as easily as it would have when it was stock. I can agree that some of the stuff they do is pretty lame. And the challenges at the end are not that big of a challenge. And the Big Schwag (announcer) is equaly stupid.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:FOR SALE:   custom parts and frames posted by JimW. on 2/28/2003 at 5:01:32 PM
The bus pontoon thing makes a little more sense than the street sweeper thing, I guess. At least an old school bus is cheaper than a $150,000 racing car to be ruined for its original purpose. And there are a lot worse "reality" shows out there. The really bad ones ruin people's lives, instead of only their cars. I only watched Monster Garage the once because I'm on a list of potential contractors for another series the same producers are developing, called Monster House, in which houses are given "fantasy makeovers". Most houses wouldn't be any worse from that, as they're mostly badly-designed crap anyway. I wouldn't be willing to turn a Frank Lloyd Wright house into a miniature golf course, though.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:FOR SALE:   custom parts and frames posted by Rif on 3/1/2003 at 12:50:26 AM
Sorry Jim but I just have to disagree.
F*** Frank Lloyd Wright! The guy was a D**kweed and most (although not all) of his designs were ugly, nasty, unliveable spaces.
I do like some of the exterior architectural design, but as far as the interiors...? Um, no.
Give me the money and time to do some Interior Design work on one of his pieces of artsy fartsy crap and it could be really cool.
Sorry, but having spent the last two years studying all aspects of Interior Design (NOT to be confused with interior decorating!!! If you want decorating call that irritating scmuck Christopher Lowell!)
I can't help but have my own definite opinions about that sort of thing. As does everyone, so I'm not really trying to bash anyone else's opinion I just wanted to state mine.
Now, back to what really matters- Kustom Bikes...

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:FOR SALE:   custom parts and frames posted by JimW. on 3/1/2003 at 9:52:47 PM
I didn't say that I liked FLW's houses, but they have historical value. I like that his sense of design extended down to the furniture inside the house, whether it was comfortable or not. And yes, he was a D**kweed; but that doesn't mean his work shouldn't be preserved as the work of, arguably, the first modern architect. Me, I prefer a nice Palladian villa, but I'll never be able to afford one of those either. 8-) Now, back to KustomBikes.

   RE:FOR SALE:   custom parts and frames posted by jesse james on 3/3/2003 at 4:04:10 AM
i dont know what the f#@$ you guys are talking about. Im 18 and build custom low riders and choppers.

   RE:RE:FOR SALE:   custom parts and frames posted by Stacey on 3/3/2003 at 7:09:28 PM
Well Jesse, let's hope you build a better bike than web site, because the URL you gave us is dead. So come on dude, find out what the CORRECT URL for your site is and re-post.

We'd all like to see it.

CUSTOMS:   stretcher posted by: jim on 2/7/2003 at 2:18:31 AM
have a custom mossberg anodized yellow paint. it has a 11 foot chain the bike is 9 feet 2 inches long has a 3 foot
aluminum swing arm rear mono shock. front drum brake the
saddle is 21 inches off the ground. built this fall love the ride of this smooth machine

   RE:CUSTOMS:   stretcher posted by Mike on 2/10/2003 at 4:19:47 AM
Got pictures? Jim Wilson wants to know! Sounds like it should
be in BikeRod & Kustom. Mike

   RE:CUSTOMS:   stretcher posted by James Donohue on 2/11/2003 at 4:39:27 PM
My saddle is 31 inches off the ground. But I can either stand or sit comfortably while pedaling. I have a 26 inch rear wheel so I couldnt make the seat much lower. The #$%&
Fiberglass Seat Post I built takes up height over the wheel.
Today my bike ride is cancelled due to snow and ice on the roads.It snowed yesterday and last night here on Long Island. We got about 2 inches.
I rode in the snow yesterday while it was snowing, but it was 36 degrees and the snow wasn't sticking to the pavement.
Then, as darkness fell, it started to ice up. It's 21 degrees today, so the roads are covered with slippery stuff.
I hope you are enjoying better bike weather than I am.
Your bike sounds like in belongs on a boardwalk by a beach in sunny Southern California. I bet you can get some cute girl in a bikini to pose on your bike , for that picture you're gonna send to the Bikerodnkustom Gallery.

AGE / VALUE:   a couple of my projects posted by: Gary on 2/4/2003 at 6:06:09 PM
i have a girls 20 in hawthorne with the twin tubes on the top. i am sawing off the current pair and welding on a longer set form a 26 in upside down making it a twin bar 20 in boys bike. then if i have enough of the right bend i will make it a 4 bar. i also have a 50s murray tank bike restore/project going, a few nondescript choppers, a 30s sears boys 20 in tanker, a 24 in Shelby Hiawatha, custom 24 in schwinn canti and too many other things to mention. trouble is what to do with it when its done? is there a market for custom/chpper bikes? i have no need for trophys

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   a couple of my projects posted by metlhed on 2/4/2003 at 8:21:33 PM
there is a pretty big market for choppers on ebay. i always look under collectibles:transportation:bicycles big choppers are getting expensive.

ps what do you guys think of the idea of selling my toenails on ebay? i just randomly thought of that. my mom said no. o well.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   a couple of my projects posted by James Donohue on 2/5/2003 at 8:06:18 PM
What do you do with the bike when you're done?
Riding it is my first choice.

Selling it for money is another option, but I don't know anything about that.
What I did was introduce my bike as if it was an Engineering Prototype and I told people I would need to sell at least ten of them to break even.
Ten bikes all the same wouldn't be custom bikes any more, they'd be Limited Production.
That bike cost $300.00 to build and you can see it on page 69 of the BR&K Gallery. Test Marketing drives people crazy.
I had a best offer of $1200.00 dollars for that bike and ten people wanted to pay $700.00. Being a ladies bike I noted that the most a woman could offer was $500.00 . The guys wanted it for their girlfriends. But there were a lot of people screaming $200.00 who must not have heard the best offer, $1200.00.
I would say that Ebay is better than trying to sell it yourself, because the ebay computer automatically ignores any bids that are less than the high bid.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   a couple of my projects posted by Mike on 2/9/2003 at 12:56:39 PM
Riding them is always a good option.

CUSTOMS:   Custom idea posted by: metlhed on 2/2/2003 at 8:13:32 PM
hey yall! i'm back(if anyone forgot about me.)i have been workin on my jc higgins, but it is such a pain in the butt trying to sand the whole thing so i might give up..:( well, since that project was stinkin i bought a new bike. i got a 1945 columbia 24in. cruiser from my brother. he restomized(restored and customized) it. i got it for $30!!! he spent about 200 but he needed a little money and was done with bikes so it was a great deal. well anyways i was lookin at it last night and i decided to do a little touch up work on the paint.after i was lookin on how to improve the look. i saw a big ugly black tube stickin out of the rim(the tube filler thing) and so i painted it red to match my bike. since it is red andblack the red tube with a black cap looks cool. now i ordered skull and crossbones valve caps (chrome with red eyes) so it will look sweet! has anyone else done/thought of this? i cant be the only one!

o yeah also- does anyones girlfriend/wife have a problem with you having your bike(s)? my girlfriend thinks i love my bikes more than her!! ahhh what should i do????

   RE:CUSTOMS: Custom idea posted by isaac ray on 2/2/2003 at 9:21:55 PM
im with you on the girlfriend thing. im 32 yrs old and she tells me "you should grow up, why do spend money and time do messing with hose bikes.do something more constructive" she doesnt understand the pride and feeling i get when all the work pays off when the end result is just what you wanted. anyways keep doing what you do, if she really cares for you shell get used to it. mine has. good luck all!!!

   RE:CUSTOMS:   Custom idea posted by sam on 2/3/2003 at 1:14:16 AM
Cool idea on the valve stem.I think they sell a stem cover at auto stores, for mag wheels.Lots of girls/wifes get mad at what we do.Hell,they get mad if you go fishing,play golf,ride bikes,hunt,.....

   RE:RE:CUSTOMS:   Custom idea posted by Sebastian on 2/3/2003 at 7:50:23 PM
Whuuuuuuuuuuuut? - My girl builds bike herself. She's about to start a 16inch full custom project. ...

   RE:RE:RE:CUSTOMS: Custom idea posted by isaac ray on 2/5/2003 at 6:14:56 AM
lucky you, we all aren't so lucky. good luck to both of you.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:CUSTOMS: Custom idea posted by James Donohue on 2/5/2003 at 8:22:19 PM
You might have noticed in the new Bikerodnkustom that a number of builders are just building bikes for their daughters. I just about gave up trying to get a girlfriend into bikes, and I let Mellisa (the girl who asked me to adopt her)design the ladies bike that I always wanted to build. Everything worked out great because her grandfather worked at an aircraft manufacturing plant and he taught her enough to design fiberglass parts, and I wanted to build the whole bike in fiberglass anyway.
Since I was offered $1200.00 for the bike and it cost only $300.00 to build, that clears the way for a 400% profit.
Which shows you that if a girl has an eye for what looks nice, and you build it the way she tells you to, the girl can make your bikes profitable.

CUSTOMS:   Pee Wee Herman Bike Info posted by: Abe Lugo on 2/2/2003 at 6:44:12 AM
He everyone, I did a search for the Pee Wee Herman BIke and got here, this is directly from my search : "
Vintage Bicycle Discussion Area
... A whole section or page on the Pee Wee Herman bicycle with folks who have already
done this project telling where and how to find parts and paint and everything ...
oldroads.com/d_bll_def.asp?rec_count=2 - 46k - Cached - Similar pages " but can't find that information, if anyone could give a link or has good picture to email about this bike I would appreciate it. thanks

   RE:CUSTOMS:   Pee Wee Herman Bike Info posted by Jim on 2/9/2003 at 12:16:39 AM
1) Click on "Search the Archives" in the scrolling box up near the top of the page.

2) Search the "Balloon Tire" discussion section for "Pee Wee". It's there!

MISC:   BikeRod andCustom posted by: D Smith on 1/26/2003 at 4:16:19 AM
Whens the new issue of BikeRod and Custom gonna be up? Sometimes it seems just to long between updates.

Customs Cruisers in Canada

D Smith

   RE:MISC:   BikeRod andCustom posted by JimW. on 1/27/2003 at 8:32:08 AM
The new issue of BikeRod&Kustom will be up on Feb.3.
If it seems too long between issues, that must mean that we're doing it right, eh?

   RE:RE:MISC:   BikeRod andCustom posted by D Smith on 1/27/2003 at 2:22:49 PM
Thanks Jim!

Yes it's always great.

D Smith

   BIKERODNKUSTOM posted by James Donohue on 2/4/2003 at 5:16:23 PM
The new issue is great! I saw the most radical custom bikes I've ever seen!
Oh my God! The SIZE of that double decker trike that Hollis Hoisington built! Does he keep it in a bus gararge?
Keep em'coming.

CUSTOMS:   Yee ha! posted by: Oscar on 1/25/2003 at 4:15:56 AM
This has gotta be a must-have some someone!


Not mine, wouldn't dream of it...

   RE:CUSTOMS:   Yee ha! posted by JimW. on 1/25/2003 at 9:55:04 PM
I see what you mean, Oscar. Robert Egger of Specialized did a cowboy-flavored kustom bike once, but nothing like this in the saddle department. What a weird item, but nice, in a strange way. Almost makes me want to..............Naah!

   RE:CUSTOMS:   Yee ha! posted by anthony on 1/26/2003 at 3:01:37 PM
COuld you put a stik shifter on the brand new lowriders?

   RE:RE:CUSTOMS:   Yee ha! posted by Oscar on 1/30/2003 at 5:30:21 AM
I don't see why not. It's just a matter of getting a shifter and rerunning the shifter cable.

AGE / VALUE:   I'm back posted by: Sebastian on 1/24/2003 at 7:36:29 PM
Hi all,

just wanted to let you all know that I'm still alive. ;)

I'm about to move to another town. That's why I got no time on my hands to built something "bike-custom". Will do, when I arrived there. Will go back to my hometown, where my parents still live at. Will propably have my own garage. I hope to get my "EZ Orange" project ready for the next cruising season which starts in about 3 or 4 months.
Got another 3 12 inch bikes on the table to be customized to the max. One 's gonna be a muscle bike type of custom, the other two will get the full lowriderbike treatment. :) It's gonna be wild - so stay tuned.
But EZ Orange comes first. Got the rims, tires, parts . just need to paint the frame again because I messed it up while carrying it around my appartment. It's gonna be kandy red over a gold base to achieve a orange look. Together with white 7-spoke BMX rims, orange tires and a white banana seat and grips - it's gonna look real tight. Hope to show it to you all soon.

'till then - take care!

Sebastian °LowStylez B.C. Hamburg, Germany°

MISC:   Great stie for Schwinn and other parts posted by: stuart on 1/24/2003 at 2:48:17 AM
**** To who it may concern **** My site is now available at stingraystu.com ....... I have great prices on Schwinn along with other parts too. please check it out.

LOWRIDERS:   Wrapping a frame in Velvet posted by: Lownslow on 1/22/2003 at 9:32:20 PM
i have a lowrider bondo frame in the works and just to be different i decided to wrap the frame in Velvet(Blue or Wine) intead of painting it(lazy)my 3 questions are

what do i glue it to the frame with?

where do i buy velvet?

How long will it stick to the frame?

   RE:LOWRIDERS:   Wrapping a frame in Velvet posted by jimmy on 1/23/2003 at 12:19:26 AM
The walmart in my town sells crushed velvet.(blue,purple, and wine).
They may also sell epoxy, which will hold it on for along time. verrrry long time if you glue all of it down. i tihnk this is a good alternative for paint. you may also consider putting designs in different colors of velvet on your bike, flames, grapics, etc. good luck, i hope it all works out great, and when its done get some pics.

   RE:RE:LOWRIDERS:   Wrapping a frame in Velvet posted by JimW. on 1/23/2003 at 2:09:12 AM
I'd recommend 3M Super 77 spray adhesive. You spray it on the frame, and on the back of your pre-cut fabric panels. Following the directions on the can as to time to wait after spraying, carefully position the panels on the frame, and rub them down. They'll stay there as long as you could possibly want them to.

I wouldn't recommend epoxy, as it's likely to soak through the fabric and change the texture of the velvet to something like tiny bristle brushes. When using Super 77 on fabric, it's best to apply it in two or three light coats. If you apply it to heavily in one coat, it will also soak through the fabric, but not as much as epoxy will.

   RE:RE:RE:LOWRIDERS:   Wrapping a frame in Velvet posted by jimmy on 1/23/2003 at 2:46:48 AM
yeah you are probably right jim. i would recommend asking the people where you buy the velvet from what they would recommend to use when trying to get it to stick to metal.

   RE:LOWRIDERS:   Wrapping a frame in Velvet posted by Oscar on 1/23/2003 at 4:33:35 AM
I found some textured spray paint at the craft store. One was a paint that had a velvet-y texture. Might be interesting...

   RE:RE:LOWRIDERS:   Wrapping a frame in Velvet posted by JimW. on 1/24/2003 at 5:52:07 AM
Yeah, I've seen that paint before too, but never tried it.
I saw it at a store called Hobby Lobby, which may be a chain. They had an amazing selection of extremely weird paint in spray cans. A lot of it would be interesting on bikes. There's always flocking, which looks like velvet, and may be better for covering complex forms. It's chopped rayon fibers available in many colors. You coat the object to be flocked with an adhesive. Water or solvent-based are both available. The flocking is puffed on with a squeeze bottle, or a special air gun. It looks pretty good, and probably holds up fairly well, but maybe not as well as velvet. I found a source on the web, when I needed to buy flocking supplies for a display job, a few years ago.

   RE:LOWRIDERS:   Wrapping a frame in Velvet posted by sam on 1/24/2003 at 4:08:14 PM
You can also buy the "sew" brand of spray adhesive,same as 3-m,I remember they were selling spray flocked mag wheels(auto) for a verrrry short time back in the early 70s

   RE:RE:LOWRIDERS: Wrapping a frame in Velvet posted by Sebastian on 1/24/2003 at 7:34:11 PM
Dunno 'bout the adhesive stuff they sell over there but from what the others say it all sounds quite good.

Cool Idea wrapping a frame in velvet. I've seen a 70ies-something Chevy El Camino fully wrapped in pink fur at a local car meet. Looked kinda wired but cool though. Give us some pics when you're done.


   RE:RE:RE:LOWRIDERS: Wrapping a frame in Velvet posted by Sebastian on 1/24/2003 at 7:35:48 PM
sorry - meant to write "weird" :) ... my fault - bad english and too much wine ;) ;)


   RE:RE:RE:RE:LOWRIDERS: Wrapping a frame in Velvet posted by Oscar on 1/25/2003 at 4:09:54 AM
Weird, wired...same thing sometimes!