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CUSTOMS:   Hello! Any parts swapping info? posted by: Al A. on 4/2/2005 at 9:47:28 PM
Greetings! This is my first post to these forums, and a useful bunch of forums they are!
I'm just a hobbyist who enjoys building good-riding bicycles from mainly scraps of old American, Japanese and British two-wheelers, with a few new bits thrown in.
This is big fun, interesting, creative, but very non-collectible stuff. I'm careful not to wreck anything that might be of greater value if left alone, but I'm not afraid to chop stuff up if it's already in bad shape...so, I thought it would be smarter to post in this forum rather than middleweight or lightweight.

I'm being given older cheap ten speeds, heavy steel ones. I've got nothing against derailleurs...on other people's bikes. On mine, I prefer either single speed or three speed. My question: How to use these nice ten speed frames with my choice of gears? Particularly, how to adapt a front sprocket for wide chain to those itty bitty bottom brackets?

If you've done such a conversion, what did you use?

   RE:CUSTOMS:   Hello! Any parts swapping info? posted by kim on 4/4/2005 at 1:02:47 PM
That's a great question, as we've all got a bunch of steel framed 10 and 12 speeds we can't stand to take to the dump.

If you're a fan of single and 3-speeds rear ends, I think you're going to have some trouble. I've never tried putting a single or 3-speed chain on a chainwheel that is meant to take a derailleur chain.
Has anyone tried this? If it works then you can ignore the whole bottom bracket issue!

    Any parts swapping info? posted by John E on 4/4/2005 at 5:13:53 PM
I don't see any reason one could not run a 1/8" "3-speed" chain on a narrower chainring designed for 3/32" "10-speed" chains, although there might be a clearance issue if you keep two rings and route the chain over the smaller one.

About 30 years ago, I did run a coaster brake Sturmey 3-speed hub on an old Bianchi road frame, but I swapped in a 1/8" chainring to get the gear range I wanted. I kept one of the downtube shift levers for a non-indexed, friction-shift, which worked very nicely for me. I particularly appreciated the "neutral" position between 2nd and 3rd for resetting my pedal position at stoplights.

   RE:CUSTOMS:   Hello! Any parts swapping info? posted by Wayne on 4/4/2005 at 7:58:05 PM
About one year ago I converted my Canadian Raleigh lightweight to a Sturmey Archer 7 speed hub. The hub was supplied with a sprocket for 1/8" chain. I used a BMX chain of the correct length and the original crank and chain rings from the Raleigh. In order to get a good chain line I had to use the inner (smaller) ring for this conversion. I had no problem setting this up and I now have 6000 Km. on this bike.
I have found no problems with using 1/8 chain with 3/32 sprockets.

   RE:CUSTOMS:   Hello! Any parts swapping info? posted by Robert on 4/5/2005 at 3:10:37 PM
Just recently converted a Peugeot mountain bike to 3 speed Sturmey Archer. Also a Sprite of mine now is 3 speed. Have done a couple of other bikes and share your affection for 3 speeds and single speed. Take off the larger chainwheel, if there is one, and use some shorter BMX bolts. Keep the smaller chainwheel in the standard inside position. The 1/8" chain works fine with the derailleur front sprockets. You will probably have to flip the rear sprocket or juggle the position of the sprocket spacers, on the hub ,to get the proper chainline.
One thing to consider is to use the 10mm?? 3/8" anti rotation washers on the hub axle. The derailleur frames have a wider dropout slot and this can create problems if you don't get the washers for the wider dropout slots. Harris Cyclery / Sheldon Brown sells these


   RE:CUSTOMS: Hello! Any parts swapping info? posted by Steve on 4/5/2005 at 7:44:51 PM
On several occasions, I've run a 1/8" chain from a 3/32" chainwheel back to a 1/8" (Sturmey) sprocket without trouble, though I have had damage to such a chainring from climbing very steep hills. I think the side play in the chain started chewing up the teeth. On the one bike that still has this setup, I periodically rotate the chainring by one bolt (72 degrees) to equalize the wear. Good place for a steel chainring!
There are also rear sprockets available that take 3/32" chains. I've used both Shimano and some no-name ones scrounged from a coaster brake.
Getting the chainline right has been a typical problem in such bikes. Sturmey and Shimano sprockets are dished, so you can reverse them to change the chainline; putting the two sprocket spacers on one side also moves the sprocket. Up front - assuming the clearances work - you can place the chainwheel on the opposite side of the spider; or reverse the bottom-bracket axle. A French-threaded frame (right-handed threads on both sides of the bottom bracket) could be used with two sets of movable cups to give an infinitely-adjustable chainline. Recycled Cycles here in Seattle has been a great help: take the bottom-bracket axle that doesn't work and find one that's shorter or longer in the right dimension.
Older frames with 120mm dropout spacing are easier fits with internal hubs than are newer ones with 126mm or greater.
These "Club" - type bikes are great looking, a lot of fun, and a very practical commuter. I have four, and the only problem is finding the opportunity to ride all of them:
1. Raleigh "Super Course" frame, Sturmey S5-1 5-speed, some mysterious Sugino BMX crank.
2. Raleigh "Super Course Mk II" frame, Sturmey FW 4-speed, Campy "Sport" steel crank with a TA 3-pin chainring. Perhaps my favorite!
3. Raleigh "Gran Sport" frame, Sturmey S5-2 5-speed, Sugino "Super Maxy" crank. This is the primary commuter bike, mating the best (full 531) rame with the best hub.
4. Fuji "S-12" frame, Sturmey AM 3-speed, SR Campy-copy track crank. This one had the dropout-width problem

   RE:CUSTOMS:   Hello! Any parts swapping info? posted by Al A. on 4/7/2005 at 2:59:04 AM
Thanks everybody for the wealth of info! It is great to hear that the conversion can be relatively easy, as long as I see to it that the hub's axles are retained securely in the dropouts, and the chainline can be accommodated.

You folks mention some interesting bikes. I didn't make the "club" bike connection until you brought it up, Steve. It is sort of similar to the idea of clubman bikes, isn't it?
Thanks all for the ideas on spacing the hub. This has become a much less daunting challenge.
Now, which frame will be first...

   shimano HBNX50 cone posted by Jack Sharkey on 4/23/2005 at 4:11:40 PM
Hi, I require part number Y-22V 03100, cone for Shimano HBNX50 hub dynamo. Any luck? If so, can I have two? How do I order? Many thanks, Jack Sharkey or fax ! 604 431 6207.

   shimano HBNX50 cone posted by Jack Sharkey on 4/23/2005 at 4:16:59 PM
Hi, I require part number Y-22V 03100, cone for Shimano HBNX50 hub dynamo. Any luck? If so, can I have two? How do I order? Many thanks, Jack Sharkey or fax 1 604 431 6207

   RE:CUSTOMS: Hello! Any parts swapping info? posted by sam on 5/2/2005 at 7:09:18 PM
I think Warren(but don't remember) did a conversion on a sturmey hub using two of the shimino sprockets(3/32)He just drimiled off 3 of the six tabs and they fit the S/A 3 tab hubs.So it's possible to swap out the 1/8 rear sprocket for a 3/32 one(or two and use a derailer for 6 speed)---ask around on this---sam

   RE:RE:CUSTOMS: Hello! Any parts swapping info? posted by mike on 5/3/2005 at 9:25:05 PM
I don't think you guys get out too much to the junk pile. Any
Shimano coaster brake made in the last 15 years has a sprocket
that's 3/32" chain friendly, 3 splines, nice pointy teeth to
keep the the chain from coming off. Works with Shimano and
Sturmey Archer 3 speeds. Mike

   RE: Any parts swapping info? posted by Glenn Manty on 5/4/2005 at 11:54:54 PM
Hello All,
I was at a rummage sale recently and purchased what appears to be a mid seventies Raleigh Sprite 10 speed.
The rear tire was mounted on an excercise stand. It looks
like the people who originally purchased the bike put
it in the basement on the stand, excercised on it a couple
times and there it sat through the years. The tires are
original (Made in Holland) and show no wear at all. The
seat has the Brooks name on it. The Raleigh name on the bar that runs from the pedal sprocket to the right rear has worn off a little and there is a small spot on the main bar(seat to handlebar)where the paint has scratched off. Other than that the bike is in excellent condition. I'm wondering if this bike is a collector's item or has any value beyond a nice ride around the block. Any advice or information anyone could offer would be appreciated.
Sincerely, Glenn Manty

   RE:RE:CUSTOMS: Hello! Any parts swapping info? posted by Larry Butts on 7/23/2005 at 1:04:31 AM
I have a 1971 Fuji Grand Tour 10 speed. My chainwheel is bent. I was wondering if anyone knows if I can get a replacement chainwheel. The deraileur still works and I can
shift gears ok. Any body know where to get a replacement.



   RE:CUSTOMS: Hello! Any parts swapping info? posted by Robby on 3/29/2006 at 11:59:03 PM
Hi Everyone,
This is just a heads up on the up and coming swap meet series this summer at The Recyclery in Portland Oregon. More information is available on our website. We are happy to take your table reservations.
The Recyclery Presents:




'JUNE 11th ---> PedalPaloosa Kick Off!

'July 2nd

'August 6th

'September 3rd

Consign your bike for a low $5.00 and sell it while you shop.

Enjoy bands, food, and great bicycle swappin' all summer long at:


The Recyclery is at:
1515 SE 46th Ave.
Right off Hawthorne Blvd.
Portland, OR. 97215


MISC:   spring powered posted by: Mark on 3/30/2005 at 8:05:04 PM
Has anyone ever seen a spiral spring or other type of spring powered bicycles? I think that I read about an antique that had a small cast iron flywheel that would rewind the spring in cycles thru a one-way clutch. Any knowledge of similar designs?

   RE:MISC:   spring powered posted by AviationMetalSmith on 4/9/2005 at 3:46:06 PM
I don't know about antiques, but the device was tried in the 1980's by members of the International Human Powered Vehicle Association -www.ihpva.org...
The spring loaded device is not allowed in HPV or bicycle racing anymore because it is considered CHEATING! It has little practicle value. All it can do is cheat on a short, 200 meter sprint. If the race is any longer the spring runs out.
The people working on the invention have all given up because it was banned (cheating) and one of their gearboxes popped open and spectators were hit by flying metal shrapnel.

   RE:MISC: spring powered posted by sam on 4/12/2005 at 3:06:14 AM
I like the guy that put a piston in the seatube that compressed air as you peddled---connected to an air motor for up hills---wonder what happens if the seatube burst!

WANTED:   SICKCYCLES posted by: mike on 3/24/2005 at 9:39:39 PM
i just made a new site with all my bikes

AGE / VALUE:   National Swap Meet List available posted by: Peter Naiman on 3/17/2005 at 4:33:51 AM
I've started a new monthly data base for all swap and bike shows that will be posted to three cycling newsgroup or sites on a monthly basis. The group or sites are this area of the Oldroads.com site, the Classic Rendezvous site, and the Boblist. The list has been ongoing for about a month or more to the last two sites, and new to Oldroads. I rely on the readers of this lists to update me on a regular basis as new shows & swaps come up. I'll post updates the first of each month and as time allows through the month. For now the list is complete through the End of April with a few events listed through years end. I have another dozen or so events from May onward to update to the list. Below is the current calendar of events.

Sat. March 19 **
Trail Head Cyclery Bike Swap
8am till it fizzles out
Location: the parking lot out at the corner of Camden and Union Ave., Trail Head Cyclery
14450 Union Ave
San Jose, CA 95124
Tel: 408-369-9666
Email: tech@trailheadcyclery.com

Sat. March 26
El Bike Swap
de Tucson.
Tucson, Arizona
Greg Yares 323-9020 yares@cox.net
4th Avenue
from 8 AM to 1 PM
Free for all vendors & buyers.

Sunday March 27th 8:00 AM - 2:00 PM
17th Annual Seattle Area Old Bike Swap Meet and Show
Kent National Guard Armory,
24410 Military Road., Kent, WA
For information call: Mike McCormack @ 206-783-2850
Or Ron Summer @ 206-364-0922

April 3, 2005
2nd Annual Bicycle Show Bicycles, family, food & fun !!! Our first show was a blast, this year will be better !!! Indoors & Out, Vendors, a 3 foot tall Best of Show Trophy, 13 trophies total. Please view the web pages. Don't miss out on a great time !!!!
Phone: 717-258-3342
Mostly Stingray and Ballon Tyre.

Sun April 2-3
The 13th Annual
Antique & Classic Bicycle Show & Swap
Marietta National Guard Armory
The Bicycle Club of Atlanta
P. O. Box 12341
Atlanta, Georgia 30355
Buck 404-252-3432
8:00 AM ' 4:00 PM
"Bonus Vintage Lightweight Section: Featuring a show
and swap area to highlight our Euroheads

April 3, 2005
The Pedaler Bike Shop - Pedaler Bike Swap
3826 San Pablo Dam Road, El Sobrante, CA
10:00 AM until 4:00 PM
Free Admission
You can rent a 10'x10' space for $50. Smaller spaces are available for people who have less stuff. Contacts: email at: swap@theped.com , fax (510) 222 6168 or call (510) 222-3420 for more information!

April 3, 2005*
Valley Spokesmen Bicycle Swap Meet
Dublin High School, 8151 Village Parkway, Dublin. CA
from 1:00 to 4:00 PM
Admission is free. No charge for sellers or buyers
This swap meet is presented by the Valley Spokesmen Bicycle Club for the benefit of all bicyclists. For further information: Bob Powers: 925-828-5299 This swap meet is presented by the Valley Spokesmen Bicycle Club for the benefit of all bicyclists. For further information: Bob Powers: 925-828-5299

April 14 - 17, 2005
Sea Otter Classic
Huge Trade Show
Monterey, California
Hotline 650-364-7612

April 16th-Sunday
Spring San Diego Velodrome Swap Meet
Gates open 7:30am for drive in sellers
8:00am for walk in sellers
9:00am to 3:00pm for buyers

Sat April 16
Trexlertown Spring Flea Market
Lehigh Valley Velodrome
Trexlertown, Pennsylvania
9 AM - 2 PM
Admission $5.00

Fri & Sat April 15 & 16
Copake Swap Meet & Auction
Copake, New York
Michael Fallon
(518) 329-1142 info@copakeauction.com
Swap Meet - Friday April 15 - Dawn 'till Dusk
$20 Vendor Fee - Free to public
Auction - Sat April 16 10 AM

Sun. April 24
Anne Arbor/Saline Classic Bike Show & Swap
Ann Arbor, Michigan
6-10pm E.S.T. weekdays
Paul Kleppert
Biggest, Oldest, and the Best Antique and Classic
Bicycle Show in the nation." Focus on balloon tired

Sun. April 24
Cupertino Bike Shop - Swap Meet
10493 S. De Anza Blvd, Cupertino California
10:00 AM-4:00 PM
Admission $2.00
South Bay's largest road and mountain bike swap meet.
ROMP (Responsible Organized Mountain Pedalers) and
Cupertino Bike Shop

Sat. May 7 **
The Bent Spoke Swap
1615 University Avenue,
Berkley, CA
Contact Ty: 510-540-0583
Fax: 510-540-0607
Hours unknown !!

May 21 **
Mill Valley Bike Swap
Site: Strawberry Point Elementary School
171 East Strawberry Drive
Mill Valley, CA 94941
Or contact Michael:at: mvbikeswap@yahoo.com

May 28 **
Great Western Bike Ralley May 27-30, 2005.
Concourse D'Elegance on May 28.
Paso Robles, California.
Rod Doty, Director 310-838-0843

Sat. June 25 **
Trips for Kids Bike Swap & Sale
Mill Valley Middle School
425 Sycamore, Mill Valley CA
Admission: $5.00
kids 15 and under free with adult

Sat. June 25th **
Show tim: 9:00AM-3:00PM
The Pana 5th Annual (Illinois) Antique-Classic Bicycle Show & Swap
Kitchell Park, Chautauqua Pavilion
Pana, Illinois 62557
Admission: $5.00
Phone: 217-562-2813 or 217-562-4240
EMail: bikes62557@yahoo.com


   Boulder Vintage Bike Swap posted by Keith Murdock on 6/4/2005 at 5:35:48 PM
Boulder CO Antique Bicycle Swap
Saturday, June 18, 2005, 8am
Central Park (Broadway & Arapahoe)
Keith Murdock keithsbikes@comcast.net
303-888-4627 cell

   Have 1948 Schwin with Wizzer motor for sale posted by Paul l. Hershey on 6/15/2005 at 3:33:00 PM
My 1948 Schwin American Beauty was mfg. for Schwin by the Columbus, Oh Coach Co. Asking $2900.00

   Have 1948 Schwin with Wizzer motor for sale posted by Paul l. Hershey on 6/15/2005 at 3:35:20 PM
My 1948 Schwin American Beauty was mfg. for Schwin by the Columbus, Oh Coach Co. Asking $2900.00

   RE:Have 1948 Schwin with Wizzer motor for sale posted by D,R.morris on 4/10/2006 at 10:53:51 PM
I have 1939 or 1941 w/arnold schwin springer F/E Org seat Complete Restoreable Was going to do but baby on way all old items have to go CHEEP

   RE:Have 1948 Schwin with Wizzer motor for sale posted by D,R.morris on 4/10/2006 at 11:02:04 PM
I have 1939 or 1941 w/arnold schwin springer F/E Org seat Complete Restoreable Was going to do but baby on way all old items have to go CHEEP Wizzer motor Great Belt drive/pullys Great

CUSTOMS:   Kings 80cc on Chopper posted by: Joe on 3/17/2005 at 12:34:49 AM
I just purchased an 80cc Kings motor for my chopper. Anyone every messed with these? I am looking for tips to help me on my install.

   RE:CUSTOMS:   Kings 80cc on Chopper posted by ziggy on 3/19/2005 at 6:48:03 PM
I've never messed around with one of those motors, but be sure to center the engine mounting plate on the frame. I have seen a lot of motorized bikes with an off center motor which made them lean to one side. Also be careful about exhaust routing. If it's too close to your leg and you're wearing shorts, you will get burned. >: )

AGE / VALUE:   tallchopper posted by: Mike on 3/11/2005 at 12:57:55 AM
I completed a new project a tallchopper. There's a little
Dr. Seuss in everybody. Thanks to Mark Jones for doing such
a slick job on the MIG welding. Mike


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   tallchopper posted by Mike on 3/13/2005 at 12:06:35 PM
see if this pic works


   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   tallchopper posted by Mike on 3/13/2005 at 12:14:36 PM
one more time


   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   tallchopper posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 3/14/2005 at 10:32:40 AM
Holy mackerel! Tall? A bit of an understatement. Yeah... wear a helmet whilst riding that baby... ya never know.... just might smack yer head on a bridge if yer not careful.

Definitely a cool and certainly unique ride!


Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   tallchopper posted by j on 3/14/2005 at 12:32:23 PM
how the heck do you stop??!?!?!

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   tallchopper posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 3/14/2005 at 7:14:39 PM
Yeah... not to mention getting on and off....



   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   tallchopper posted by ziggy on 3/17/2005 at 2:32:55 AM
Man that thing is tall! Just imagine the stress points on the frame and forks! >: )

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   tallchopper posted by Mike on 3/18/2005 at 11:07:02 PM
How do I stop? I put on the brakes of course and then climb
down. The trick is to ride mellow and look ahead and time the
lights so they're green when I get there. It feels natural
once you're up for a few minutes and it's a good view. Try
a tall ride and you will like it!
Have you guys seen the Pink Ratfink? It's yummy! Mike


   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   tallchopper posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 3/19/2005 at 12:38:52 AM
Yup... I procured a brandy new Pink Fink for the ladyfriend for Christmas. I've not looked at the serial number... but it's probably one of the first manufactured... and yes... it is an outrageous ride. They hydroformed Aluminium frame is AWESOME!


Larry "Boneman" Bone

FOR SALE:    posted by: mike on 3/8/2005 at 11:36:27 PM
i have a custom bmx dyno i just did,satin black, lowered springer forks, spiked fenders front and bakc, skull grips, custom painted sprocket, nice chrome. paint has minimal scratches. nice cruiser. i built it and got bored of it.
looking for 150$ maybe trade
ill take any old muscle bikes condition doesnt matter as long as its not pitted badly, reply if intterested


AGE / VALUE:   loowrider posted by: big red on 3/2/2005 at 11:29:37 PM
Hey peoples how are u's doin ok heres my question: how can i join a lowrider club?any offers?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   loowrider posted by ziggy on 3/2/2005 at 11:44:40 PM
Get a sweet ride and show off pics to a club or show up in person with the piece. If your piece is good enough, then you join. Or start your own. >: )

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   loowrider posted by j on 3/3/2005 at 7:26:58 AM
Hey who here lives in NY?
we can start a club, I have about 15 vintage, lowrider, chopper and custom things of my own, lol. and a trike that plays greenday really loud, lol (and sometimes other bands too, lol)
so as you can see, the possibility of cruises with music are highly possible :) (maybe even live music off the trike, this was done once with the portable amp, it was pretty loud too, lol, of course we'll need a 2nd trike for drums...think of the possibiltys here everyone!!)


   RE:AGE / VALUE: loowrider posted by mike on 3/5/2005 at 12:09:00 AM
me nd my friend have like 20 bikes.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   loowrider posted by j on 3/6/2005 at 4:27:57 AM
hey thats some cool stuff but I might have you beat :)
I should make a website but heres what I got:

16" ross girls bike, customized into cool lowrider
20" ross girls bike, looks just like the 16" one but its bigger...(currently seeking replacement ross frame for this one since I screwed up on the frame)
20" schwinn luv chic, 72 spoke 16" wheels, customized lowrider
20" schwinn fair lady, 16" wheels, made into boys bike with tank.
20" 1966 schwinn boys stingray (yellow)
20" 1968 schwinn boys stingray krate (red, looking for shifter)
1970's Murry "bobbi 3" girls bike, customized (under constrution)
twisted bike, custom made frame by me, under construction)
20" Murry firecat style chopper, built from pacific bike.
20" awesome red chopper, totaly custom frame, made by me.
20" full suspention chopper, totaly custom frame, made by me (under construction)
24" vintage "rollfast" bike, customized to have tank (under construction)
fake schwinn krate, made by me, "the wheelie bike" since for some reason it does crazy wheels, which is the only reason I haven't cut it up...
swingbike, fake swing bike made by me from various other bikes
mini bike tiny little thing made from 12" barbie girls bike, I made it even smaller :) (and yes its rideable!)
ugly custom bike, first bike I ever made, its weird, and very ugly.
weird green chopper, made from various things, 16".
crumpled bike, 20", crazy tall handle bars and sissy bar.
Iverson "charger" girls bike, under construction to become "another wheelie bike".
crazy trike, took about a month total to build, used about 15 bikes from the trash to build, holds two people, has an opulstered red velvet seat and build in speakers...also cob web, weird handle bars and a pumpkin head, everything, except the velvet, is black so its a little scary looking, kind of the idea :)
folding bike, 12" wheels, it was failure...
fin-d bike, weird bike with fins made from a vintage girls AMF "sky piolit"

upcoming bikes: "rim bike", "tan-dumb" "mini-er bike" "LOWrider", "girls bike" (incase I should ever get a girlfriend...) "purple ross thingy" (certain frame, thus the hunt for ross frames)

we totaly need to start a bike club :)

   RE:AGE / VALUE: loowrider posted by mike on 3/7/2005 at 11:44:37 PM
yea, that would be cool. we got some more sick bikes comin.

   RE:AGE / VALUE: loowrider posted by mike on 3/14/2005 at 8:59:06 PM
getting some more bikes, apollo ,stingray, jc penny, nd a columbia

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   loowrider posted by Timothy on 4/7/2005 at 4:09:49 PM
what`s up! In my country, Indonesia, custom bike is unknown.. so i want to build one... i need a lot of info then.... can u help me.... thanx...

NB: hope u reply this message...

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   loowrider posted by Mike on 5/3/2005 at 9:48:27 PM
www.bikerodnkustom.com for plenty of ideas!

WANTED:   WANTED: OLD ROSS BIKES OR FRAMES posted by: j on 3/2/2005 at 11:28:40 PM
hey, I'm looking for old Ross GIRLS or BOYS frames or compleate bikes, condtion isn't too important...

   RE:WANTED:   WANTED: OLD ROSS BIKES OR FRAMES posted by Tim Binns on 4/4/2005 at 1:49:03 AM
I have a ross kicker in fair condition.Make an offer.

AGE / VALUE:   Fiberglass Ladies Bicycle posted by: AviationMetalSmith on 3/2/2005 at 2:30:22 PM
Before I describe Mellisa's Fiberglass Ladies Bicycle, I should ask if anyone else has built one. If so, please post a message.
Lowrider bicycles are based on motorcycles. A motorcycle does not have a step thru frame. A lady doesn't lift her leg like a dog. So what to do?? Mellisa came up with the idea of making the frame like a Moped, which has a step thru frame. A fiberglass four inch by six inch box beam (4"x6")was cast. A Moped style seat was glued on. The idea of putting the seat on a sliding track was cosidered, but rejected because someone might pinch their deriere in the track. Giant Bicycles has the seat of their Revive semi-recumbent on a sliding track, so that idea will work. But for the purpose of building a demonstrator unit, the seat was simply glued on to this Fiberglass Ladies Bicycle with silicone caulk. If you remember the name of my company, NFA Vehicles, you might also want to know that this prototype is known as "Type 9". I asked Mellisa to come up with a design for a fairing, and she suggested the spoiler on her Kenworth Tractor (Diesel Highway Rig) is very aerodynamic, and if one was built in quarter scale, it would make an efficient motorcycle fairing. (quarter scale means the truck is eight feet wide, 8 divided by 4 is two, so the fairing is two feet wide)
The fiberglass ladies bicycle was built at a cost of $300 and sold for $1,200. That's a four hundred % Percent profit! Many people offered $700', but they were out-bid. Giants' Revive is right on the mark by having the semi-recumbent seat position and the $700 range price, and most important, the step thru frame.
I hope someone else builds a fiberglass moped lowrider, maybe without the fairing.
As I started building HPV's (Human Powered Vehicles) while I was an Engineering student, there weren't any female students to design a ladies bike. Well, a woman truck driver came through with the design I wanted. Naysayers be damned-It's DONE!!!
Thank you for reading about the success of a woman in a male dominated profession.


   RE:AGE / VALUE: Fiberglass Ladies Bicycle posted by sam on 3/5/2005 at 4:47:03 AM
Hay that's cool.JimW did someting like this for his daughter.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Fiberglass Ladies Bicycle posted by AviationMetalSmith on 3/5/2005 at 3:12:31 PM
The bike Jim W. built for his daughter is called "Killer Swan" and it was featured in a past issue of BikeRodnKustom.
Other partially faired bikes can be seen at http://gravitybike.com
Mellisa's bike now shows up as result number 1 if you do a Google search for "Fiberglass Ladies Bicycle"

FOR SALE:    posted by: mike on 2/24/2005 at 4:25:46 PM
i have a custom bmx dyno i just did,satin black, lowered springer forks, spiked fenders front and bakc, skull grips, custom painted sprocket, nice chrome. paint has minimal scratches. nice cruiser. i built it and got bored of it.
looking for 150$ maybe trade
ill take any old muscle bikes condition doesnt matter as long as its not pitted badly, reply if intterested


WANTED:   WANTED: 20" ross girls bike posted by: j on 2/17/2005 at 9:31:18 PM
I'm looking for a 20" Ross GIRLS bike, condtion is not important, I really only want the frame but a compleate bike is of interest too. I belive the one I want is a "polo" bike and was made into the late 1980's but it may have another name too, if anyone has anything like this let me know or email me, weststreetbikes@hotmail.com

MISC:   Test posted by: Vin on 2/16/2005 at 2:34:55 AM
Yes this part of our site has been down for 2 weeks.
Yes we've had to revert back to a copy from September 2004.
Yes we still have the missing 5 months of discussions but we need to figure out how to merge them back in.
No we're not happy with our hosting service.
Yes we're open to you recommendations of a reliable hosting service.

Vin - VVVintage Vintage Bicycles, Inc.


   RE:MISC: Test posted by Stacey on 2/21/2005 at 10:42:53 PM
"Oy"? Gee, Vin's a Stephen King fan,eh? Good on ya mate!

   RE:RE:MISC: Test posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 2/22/2005 at 10:16:25 AM
Good call Stacey... I missed that connction... Oi!



AGE / VALUE:   Giant Stiletto "Leg-Over" report posted by: Larry "Boneman" Bone on 9/14/2004 at 11:52:16 PM
Stopped at an LBS in Byram, NJ... I was unaware they were in fact a Giant Dealer.... and they had no less than 3 Stilettos in stock. One of each colour. Red, Matte Black and the Black and Chrome. The Red was sold.

Well... doggone, I get on the cellphone to the dealer in Goshen that's ordered mine... fortunately, they had checked on it and it had shipped and will be in for the weekend.

Anyhow, I just hadda have me an up-close looksee and my impressions are as follows: Seating position is LOW! Not quite the full leg extension on the pedals, but I'm sure enough to not prove problematic. The reach to the drag bar style handlebars is perfect... at least for me. Fit and finish is pretty darn good too. Tried to roll it with the disc brake engaged and lemme tellya... that brake is VERY effective. Interestingly enough, there is a provision on the front fork for the mounting of a front disc as well.

Each colour bike has it's own seat style as well. The Red has like a velvet-velour saddle whilst the black has a stiched flame pattern. I don't recall the black and chrome as that one was just getting finished up on the assembly behind the counter.

The jackshaft, chains and gearing are all of very high quality. The forward chain tension is adjusted via an eccentric bottom bracket arrangement much akin to the type used on tandems. Interesting is that there is a protuberance opposite the double sprockets on the jackshaft that does turn and from the looks of it, there may be accesories in the future that will be driven off that shaft. Cool! The rear reflector mounts to the back surface of the seat. I see that disappering off mine as soon as I get it home. The front reflector actually mounts via a wee bracket to TAPPED HOLES in the bottom of the lower triple tree mount. THAT will make for an easy adaptation of an headlight for sure.

Neat differences between the colours would be trimmings. Chrome bars as opposed to matte black, that sort of thing. The bike had a VERY solid feel sitting on it... and that leads to what might be a bit of a surprise... I picked it up and by no means is this a lightweight machine.

Anyhow... that is my impression of the machine. Very much psyched to get mine and actually take it for a spin. As low to the ground as I felt, I'm thinking it will handle very well.

Stay tuned.... ;-)



   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Giant Stiletto posted by ziggy on 2/16/2005 at 2:32:27 AM
Why was this message reposted larry? You already told us about the test ride!! : 0

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Giant Stiletto posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 2/20/2005 at 12:03:47 PM
Greetings Ziggy! By now, I'm sure you've seen Vin's note up top... this board has been down for a couple of weeks now and they're in the "recovery" mode. Alas... there's like 5 months worth to be recovered and they've had to revert all the way back to September.

OUCH! ;-)



MISC:   R.I.P. posted by: ziggy on 9/14/2004 at 9:01:08 PM
Rest in peace Indian Larry.

   RE:MISC: R.I.P. posted by Rif on 9/15/2004 at 1:05:23 AM
You can't be serious.
I am so bummed now.


   RE:MISC:   R.I.P. posted by mike on 2/20/2005 at 7:53:16 PM
i cant believe that no body knew about his death until the biker build off episode. ive know about it since early september