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Archived: Vintage Lightweights

WANTED:   Schwinn Varsity posted by: Fred on 6/19/2000 at 7:51:37 AM
I would like to buy an early 60's Schwinn Varsity. The only requirement is that it must be in excellent condition both mechanically and cosmetically.

AGE / VALUE:   1930's Raleigh Ladies Bicycle posted by: Jenny on 6/14/2000 at 10:52:59 PM
I found this site while trying to find information on a Raleigh Ladies Bicycle which I believe to be dated somewhere between 1930 and 1933. I know absolutely nothing about these bicycles. I saw it, I fell in love with it and I bought it. I didn't have a measuring tape so I'm not sure how tall it is, but it's tall! Maybe 28". I am going to measure it and take pictures tomorrow. I'm only 5'1" tall and I will have a heck of a time riding it. The pedals are intact and have "Raleigh" logo on them. It is a single speed with rods that operate the brakes in the front and back instead of cables. It is in great shape and appears to have all original parts. Although, what would I know! It has an enclosed chain guard which has the "Raleigh" logo on it. It has been painted black(many years ago by the looks of it). I don't believe it is original paint. I found the frame number under the seat lug under the saddle. The number is J50430. The seat says "Brooks" on it and is in poor condition. It is basically dry rotted. The seat has the double springs in the back - so is this a B66 seat? The rear fender has evenly spaced "holes" that look like "rivet" holes along both sides. There is also some type of bracket in the middle of the handlebars that may have been for a light. It also has a bell on the handlebars. I have spent 2 days and many long hours trying to find out some information about this particular year, but with no luck. If anyone out there has any information or knows of someone I could contact, I would really appreciate it.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1930's Raleigh Ladies Bicycle posted by sam on 6/15/2000 at 2:03:48 AM
Jenny,go to the english roadster discussion group here on oldroads-read"new and need help"I couldn't say it better.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   1930's Raleigh Ladies Bicycle posted by Jenny on 6/15/2000 at 7:53:09 AM
Thanks Sam. I will do that.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1930's Raleigh Ladies Bicycle posted by ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 6/16/2000 at 6:51:28 AM
Please E mail me. http://www.ChristopherRobin@starmail.com and I will answer any questions.

WANTED:   TOURING BIKE/RACKS posted by: ART on 6/14/2000 at 7:56:26 AM
I'm looking to buy or trade for a nice 56-57cm complete touring bike or frame. Also looking for older front and rear racks, specifically something with a short front rack that is compatible with a 27 in wheel. I'm looking for a vintage touring bike that would make an interesting alternative to my currents rigs. Thanks.

   RE:WANTED:   TOURING BIKE/RACKS posted by Keith on 6/14/2000 at 10:36:36 AM
Check www.recycledcycles.net (not .com -- that's another shop use .net) I've dealt with the guy, and he's fair. He appreciates vintage road bikes, and usually has some vintage full-blown touring bikes on his list.

   RE:WANTED:   TOURING BIKE/RACKS posted by Keith on 6/14/2000 at 11:17:20 AM
I just checked that site and he has a 56.5 cm (ct) Mercian Vincitore, complete. The Vincitore is the one with the droolworthy fancy lugs. As a satisfied Merician owner of about 25 years, I can recommend this classic without any hesitation. Your friends will die with envy -- especially those who bought some characterless cookie-cutter welded/glued contemporary touring bike.

   RE:WANTED:   TOURING BIKE/RACKS posted by Keith on 6/14/2000 at 11:20:16 AM
Correction -- it's 56.5 cm CC, not CT.

   RE:RE:WANTED:   TOURING BIKE/RACKS posted by ART on 6/16/2000 at 9:10:07 AM
Thanks, Keith. I checked and bookmarkded the site. Interesting things. Mercian is beautiful. I'm not sure I want to drop that kind of money...still looking for a screamin' deal.

   yard sales posted by John E on 6/20/2000 at 6:47:46 AM
Good luck in your search, Art. I share your interest in old
road touring bikes. I love the way they look and ride, and
I use them as commuters and daily transportation.

I bought my Capo, which was Steyr-Daimler-Puch's d.b.
Reynolds 531 top-of-the-line touring bike in the early
1960s, for $20 at a garage sale. With its long top tube and
56cm C-T seat tube, it fits me beautifully. The metalwork
is ornate and clean, in contrast to today's TIG-welded
frames. My only criticism of the bike is that its very long
wheelbase and "spaghetti stays" make it a bit too whippy for
loaded touring or sprinting, but otherwise it's still a
great ride that gets noticed by other cyclists.

   RE:WANTED:   TOURING BIKE/RACKS posted by Keith on 6/23/2000 at 12:49:47 PM
Before you decide agsinst the Mercian Vincitore -- go to the Merican website and look at a closeup of the lugs they use on that model.

WANTED:   Bennotto handlebar tape posted by: Philip on 6/13/2000 at 10:52:39 PM
Does anyone have any Bennotto cello handlebar tape they would part with or know where I could get some? I need basic colors Black, white, blue, etc. Thanks!

   RE:WANTED:   Bennotto handlebar tape posted by MP on 6/14/2000 at 5:49:30 AM
Try Bay Area Schwinn in Houston Texas. Only the S Richey location has a whole basket full

AGE / VALUE:   plastic posted by: sam on 6/12/2000 at 1:32:43 PM
I was flippin tru ebay and came across a lady's continental from the 40es . It had plastic fenders. My question is when were plastic fenders first used. I know plastics were used on cars in the 40's because I have a 48 chrysler with a lot of plastic on the interor.The bike's not mine and I don't plan to bid but the fenders caught my eye, if you want to look the # is 354913909

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Fugi 12 speeds: Espree and Del Ray posted by: Susan on 6/12/2000 at 7:02:27 AM
I recently bought a Fugi Espree (non-indexed shifting) and Del Ray (indexed shifting). I read on the web that the Del Ray was a Hybrid. Does this mean a cross bewteen road and mountain bikes?
The Espree seems like a higher quality bike though it is older and less features (no rear quick release, non-indexed shifting). Does anyone know how they compare to each other as far as quality in the Fuji line?
Thanks, Susan

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Fuji 12 speeds: Espree and Del Ray posted by John E on 6/13/2000 at 7:53:07 AM
A hybrid or "fitness" bike usually has a more upright
seating position than either a road bike or a mountain bike.
The hybrid's tyre width is an intermediate 1-3/8" to 1.5",
designed to accommodate dirt roads, but not single-track
trails, which require a mountain bike's 2"-wide knobbies.

Indexed shifting is an indicator of a bike's age, rather
than quality, but the lack of rear quick release does,
of course, generally connote a cheaper bike.

I hope this helps!

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Fugi 12 speeds: Espree and Del Ray posted by Susan on 6/19/2000 at 1:43:32 PM
Thanks for the info, John E!

AGE / VALUE:   Wood Rim track bike Info posted by: Dave on 6/10/2000 at 6:29:05 PM
I picked up an old track bike and was hoping to find any info on it since I am mainly a BMX collector. It's a skip tooth chain, fixed gear bike. Wood rims-Tubular, markings on rr rim say E.J. Lobdell Wood Rims Alma., Mich, Tires are tubular with schrader stems-US Rubber Co., On the BB it says-"D" & "J" Patented Jan. 11 1898 Park City Meg. Co. Chicago. Tire size is 28 x 1 1/8". Saddle is a Persons. Cranks are like tapered rods. BB shell has 2 pinch bolts underneath. Forks have no slots for axle. it's dark green with gold pin striping. Head lugs wrap partially around headtube-open in front. The picture of the bike is at: www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Hoop/1977/ob2.jpg. ANY help would be much appreciated. The bike looks original but just wanted to know more about it. Pedal shafts are 1'2" also.
Thanks, Dave

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Wood Rim track bike Info posted by Oscar on 6/11/2000 at 8:35:10 PM
Dave, doublecheck the page address. I'd love to see it, but can't find it.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Wood Rim track bike Info posted by Oscar on 6/12/2000 at 8:53:54 PM
Hey, there it is! (I'm a goof!)

MISC:   schwinn traveler posted by: Hal Tucker on 6/8/2000 at 7:37:43 AM
I have a Schwinn Traveler I bought years ago from a cousin,

   RE:MISC:   schwinn traveler posted by Hal Tucker on 6/8/2000 at 7:55:55 AM
Sorry, fingers not working well. Anyway bike was bought new for cousin's 10th birthday, I remember being there when
he got it, but I was only 4 or 5. And bought it from him for $20 when I was about 10. I am guessing bike was produced around 59,60, maybe 61 at latest and is in good condition, I still ride it, new tires, brake pads and that is all was ever done to it. As I mentioned is a Schwinn Traveler and has Sturm-Archer 3 speed Thumb Shifter and Hub.
Also Head and Tail light with Generator.

FOR SALE:   d.b.harris mans wood rim bicycle posted by: lou englehart on 6/6/2000 at 8:49:52 AM
i have 2 old-about 1920s- mens bicycles for sale. one is a columbia,long spring leather saddle,orig. paint,inflatable tires are soft but need repairing. the other bike is a d.b.harris,leather troxel saddle,orig. paint,wood rims,need tires. also have a old oogle-oogle sounding horn. call me at 856-358-8625 after 5pm in n.j.e.s.t. also have old balloon tire cruisers with new departure hubs,two schwinns, english 3 speeds in excellent cond.


   Magneet posted by John E on 6/20/2000 at 6:52:59 AM
Magneet is indeed Dutch. Relatively few were imported into
the U.S. Sorry I cannot be of more help!

AGE / VALUE:   Circa 1975 Paris Sport "Cuevas" posted by: Bob Coven on 6/5/2000 at 9:26:20 PM
I have a Paris Sport Reynolds 531 frame made by Tipo Cuevas around 1975/6. It is 100% Campy Record right down to the dropouts. The bars and stem are 3ttt and the wheels are AVA tubulars built on Campy record hubs. The bike is in GREAT condition, low milage and some wear on the top tube decals from transport. I also still have two unused Wolber "Club" tires still in the original plastic wrapper, a Silca frame pump and Campy water bottle purchased at the same time. Anyone know what this gear is worth?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Circa 1975 Paris Sport posted by Oscar on 6/6/2000 at 7:27:31 PM
It's tough to peg a fair price for exotic race bikes. You might try picking up a copy of the Bicycle Trader and read the ads to get a feel for well equipped road bikes go for. Otherwise, ask for a high price and see what happens. It sounds like a great bike.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Circa 1975 Paris Sport posted by Karl on 6/7/2000 at 10:01:54 AM
It's not *that* exotic... but for a mid-70s, top-shelf,
all Campy Record bike in good condition, figure a general
range of $700-$1000. Go have a look at Sheldon Brown's website
(www.sheldonbrown.com/harris) where he has a writeup on values
of various makes; I'm pretty sure Paris-Sport is mentioned
there. It all comes down to what people are looking for and
condition, condition, condition...

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Circa 1975 Paris Sport posted by Keith on 6/7/2000 at 11:39:10 AM
The question of value is very difficult, IMHO. I'm familiar with the extensive "shot in the dark" list at Sheldon Brown's site, which was developed, I believe, by the guys at Bicycle Classics. And I see these kinds of prices as ASKING prices in Bicycle Trader. But then there's the whole Ebay phenomenon. Decent-looking all Campy vintage machines regularly go on Ebay for 100s less than the "list" value. And I've bought three of my all-Campy vintage machines, in fine condition, each for less than $300, but I'm willing to wait patiently for a bargain. I suppose the lesson is that you might get your $800 - $1000, but only if you are willing to wait for that one right buyer who really wants your particular bike. But if you need to unload it quickly, on Ebay, for example, then get ready to settle for a lot less. One last thing -- yes, size matters. Huge and tiny frames go for less, with an ideal range being somewhere in the 54-58cm ct. If the bike rides well, and it fits you, I'd keep it. What can you buy new for $800-$1000? Not much -- and certainly nothing as nice!

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Circa 1975 Paris Sport posted by Karl on 6/7/2000 at 1:10:06 PM
Here's a better pointer: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/vrbn-a-f.htm#cuevas

Paris-Sport frames were built by a number of people, including Francesco Cuevas.

See also http://www.cyclesdeoro.com/Paris_Sport.html

As for value, note how wide the range is that I guessed at, and I even waffled some more at that. But $300 these days for an all-Campy Record bike is pretty good, and doesn't come along real often. At least not to me!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Circa 1975 Paris Sport posted by steve on 7/8/2000 at 8:52:11 AM
I also have a Paris-Sport of the same era as the one you have described, with all Campy record with the exception of a Universal brakeset. I believe that my frame is also a Cuevas, but I am not sure. Do you know if the name "H France" which appears on the top of the seat stay indicates a Cuevas frame? If not, what is it?


AGE / VALUE:   1979(?) Raleigh 531 Track Frame posted by: Tim on 6/5/2000 at 1:13:46 PM
I have come upon a Raleigh track frame (rear facing drop outs, no place for derailleurs or brakes) which has been in storage some 20 years, in perfect condition. It is a Raleigh with no other markings (other than 531 butted frame, stays & fork). Beautifully made, even chromed lugs. It is mainly red, with some white. What is it, anybody know?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1979(?) Raleigh 531 Track Frame posted by Kyle on 6/10/2000 at 3:46:55 PM
I have a Raleigh Track bike that sounds a lot like yours. Mine was made in 1973 or 74. Mine is deep red, with white head-tube, and white and blue sections on the seat-tube. The lugs at the head-tube are chromed, as is the fork crown, lower fork blades, and part of the rear triangle. Some later models probably don't have as much chrome. Try this website URL for the "Retro Raleighs" website: http://www.speakeasy.org/'tabula/raleigh/ There you can look up the serial number to get a better idea of the year yours was made. Bikes like that one with Reynolds 531 tubing are nice, but they don't go for a lot of cash these days. I would imagine that you could maybe get $200 for the frame on Ebay, but that is a guess, and condition (and photos) will be a key concern. Built up with Campagnolo Pista (track) components, you might get $700 - $800 for it.

AGE / VALUE:   Stella posted by: Marco on 6/4/2000 at 5:42:17 PM
I recently acquired an Italian-made Stella. It appears to be a low-end frame but is built up with a fine old Campy gruppo including high-flange hubs and cottered cranks. Only the saddle appears to have been replaced, otherwise completely original. I'm guessing mid-late 60's. Help me out.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Stella posted by xxx on 6/5/2000 at 12:23:48 AM
Stella is a French brand, see Cycles d' Oro web page under French Makers, also see Sheldon Brown's site, he's a Frenchie at heart for sure!

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   standard 500 posted by: B.B. on 6/4/2000 at 11:21:46 AM
Has anyone heard of the brand "Sekai" and model "Standard 500"?

   Sekai posted by John E on 6/14/2000 at 6:36:54 AM
Sekai Royale (SR) is better known for their cranks,
handlebars, stems, and other aluminum components than for
their frames, which were imported for a few years during the
1970s. Since they probably made a range of bikes, and since
I am not familiar with your particular model, I cannot tell
you much else. My son's SR was a very typical lower-end,
somewhat heavy Japanese 10-speed -- decent transportation,
but not much more.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Raliegh Lenton circa 1960 posted by: Mike Last on 6/3/2000 at 4:50:49 PM
I bought a used Lenton, 10 speed, when I was in college around 1969.
I was told the it was about 10 years old when I bought it.
I still have it and want to refinish it and was looking for
more information about it I know the following:
Its a steel tube frame with a hand stamped number on the
bottom of the pedal hub - 4878; its the only number anywhere
on the frame. Simplex derailer w\'Hurer' at the chainwheel.
Rear axle is 'BH' Racelite made in England, 27x1 1/4 Dunlop
special lightweight rim. Front wheel is a 27x1 1/4 Dunlop E.A.
It has NERVAR pedal crank set, it has stubby alum fenders front & rear
and has a Wright leather saddle.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Raliegh Lenton circa 1960 posted by http://www.ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 6/7/2000 at 5:15:01 PM
Are these rims stainless steel? Mine say "Dunlop Special Stainless steel lightweight" and then I have one steel Dunlop rin of the exact same pattern and size 27 X 1 1/4 with the dimples only this is regular steel. You have some sought after parts on this bike. What do you mean by refinish? How bad is this? A lot of folks would say to get it road worthy, new tires, re-grease the fittings and bottom bracket, true wheels, clean and polish and go ride it. Perhaps a new Brooks Leather saddle? If you get into painting you will need decals so in that case you better write Nick at LLoyds. Check out "Cycles De Oro" web site and go to the restoration section and scroll down, down until you get to "decal transfers" go to Nick's web site and look at it all then take a bunch of snapshots of all the decals you have and send them to him. Most of the bicycle painters will not supply decals to you without getting the whole job and restoring a bicycle can get expensive. Do not pay to have decals made without first making darn sure wheather or not Nick has what you need. Chances are he does! and quality and his reputation is first rate.