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Archived: Vintage Lightweights

AGE / VALUE:   sears "folding bike" posted by: josh on 7/24/2000 at 10:17:53 AM
where can i find info on an old sears folding bike i have. it does'nt really fold but breaks in two by unscrewing two wingnuts. It has a 3-speed shifter under the seat on the post. It is a 3-speed internal hub. It is gold with front and back chrome fenders and a spring loaded mouse trap like rack on front.
i can't find anything on it. where would the serial #'s be?

AGE / VALUE:   Vintage Mountain Bikes posted by: Oscar on 7/23/2000 at 9:03:21 PM
Face it, we're all getting older. Is there really such a thing as a vintage mountain bike? I rode my first one out the the store in 1985. The first mass produced MTB was the Specialized Stumpjumper in 1982. I saw one on the street this weekend, and an '83 Stumpjumper (sport model) frame on eBay for $25. The paint job is so completely dated that it's an instant collectable - twotone with seafoam green and cranberry.

There's an early-80's Trek 850 for sale in my neighborhood for $30. When was the last time you saw a U-brake? I'm passing both up, but I'm going to REGRET IT in 10 years. Have a happy decade.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Vintage Mountain Bikes posted by ART on 7/24/2000 at 12:45:18 PM
Historically, the most collectible mountain bikes would be those early schwinn ballooners that were adapted
to off road riding by most of today's big name mountain bike builders. Their early prototypes would alsobe valuable. Realistically, however, when I found an early 80's Bridgestone at a yard sale for $15 dollars I bought it. It's in great mechanical condition. And it meets my current criteria for buying yet anotherbike...that it is something that I will ride. When I look at the components on the bike --thumb shifters, raised bar, etc--it is the same stuff that today's high end mountain bikes are returning to. (Grant Petersen is a God!) Whether something only fifteen years old is retro or collectible is a debateable issue(see how much
xo and xo-1s are going for), but it's true that good, well made bikes(compared to a lot of junk on the market today) are showing up at yard sales and swap meets and can be purchased for next to nothing. While they may not have the artistic or aesthetic qualities of that elusive fully outfitted Rene Herse touring bike that I've searching for, they can still be interesting.

     "Vintage"(?) Mountain Bikes posted by John E on 7/24/2000 at 1:34:20 PM
I see a U-brake (and a SunTour RollerCam) every day on my
1988 mountain bike. I like my friction mode SunTour thumb
shifters, and I like the four-finger brake handles I can
reach from the bar extensions. Since Schwinn made only
"between 1000 and 3000" Team Issue Project KOM-10s, perhaps
mine will be semi-collectible one day. In the meantime, I
have a sturdy, comfortable, reasonably light (Tange
Prestige II) mountain bike with a sharp-looking factory
red, white, and blue paint job.

   RE:  Vintage Mountain Bikes posted by Oscar on 7/24/2000 at 3:19:00 PM
I think the way U brakes are tucked away at the chainstay is cool looking. I guess they fell off the market when they discovered that cantilevers are cheaper to make (and have good mud clearance). This is much the same way that cantilevers are fading away in favor of V brakes.

   RE:  U-Brakes posted by JimW. on 7/25/2000 at 8:24:48 AM
Is that what a brake is called which is fitted to the bottom
of the frame, where the lower stays meet the bottom bracket?
I've got one on a Sintesi MTB I picked up. Never knew what
it was called.

   RE:RE:  U-Brakes posted by Oscar on 7/25/2000 at 3:43:58 PM
Yeah, they use them on some freestyle bmx bikes. They look like center-pull brakes with canti shoes. I have an old Dia Comp brake. I wonder if it can hang off of standard canti bosses.

    U-Brakes and bosses posted by John E on 7/25/2000 at 4:42:24 PM
RollerCams and U-brakes use pivot bosses which mount above
the rims, whereas cantilevers and V-brakes use pivot bosses
which mount below the rims.

According to Frank Berto ("The Birth of Dirt"), chainstay-
mounted rear brakes were a short-lived fad. Predictably,
mine tends to get dirty, and I tend to forget to maintain
it. My younger son's freestyle bike has a chainstay-mounted
conventional DiaCompe center-pull brake.

   RE: U-Brakes and bosses posted by Wings on 7/25/2000 at 11:07:18 PM
Re: U brakes and BMX
Tektro, Odessy and others make 990 brakes (similar to U) and they are great! I think they have more leverage than the older U brakes. I use a Tektro FX20 with center pull. It is also much better than the roller cam it replaced!
Earlier Comment: I also like the old levers like what is on my 84 old mountain bike! The old levers have a better feel than the two finger ones.

AGE / VALUE:   SERIAL # HELP---PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by: Dustin Gaddis on 7/22/2000 at 7:09:19 PM
Will someone please help me??? I've been looking for info on a bike forever, and so far I've found nothing. Is there any way I could use the serial # to find out what year it was made? Here's more info on the bike:

Rollfast Super de Luxe

Aerolight coaster brake

Bendix wheel retainer thingy

Messanger seat (big, 2 large springs)



Crown tires

both fenders are painted

no racks

There don't apear to be any welds, it's almost as if the tubes are just stuck inside each other

26in wheels

Saf-tee generator light that clamps onto the left side of the fork

The bike is in almost mint condition.

Any info would be greatly apreciated, and if you can, try to e-mail me (dustin_gaddis@hotmail.com), if you can't, just post a reply. Thanks again for the help.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   American Flyer posted by: Scott on 7/21/2000 at 11:36:29 AM
I recently saw an American Flyer (Continental?) mixte. I've been unable to find out anything about these bikes. It had rather ornate lugs, outlined in gold, and Shimano components (don't know the specifics on the components). Anyone know anything about these bikes? Were they Reynolds, or simply a lot of detail on mild steel? Thanks

MISC:   Texas Rangerett posted by: clay on 7/20/2000 at 1:54:12 PM
Does anyone know anything about these? I found this and some other bikes with stars on the crank gear. All of 'em have a Texas something tag on them.

   RE:MISC:   Texas Rangerett posted by lucy on 7/29/2000 at 5:19:57 PM
i also have a blue amf rangerette and am curious as to the value. and a schwinn hollywood girls bike.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Monarch Silver King posted by: clay on 7/20/2000 at 1:51:08 PM
I stumbled across a Monarch Silver King made of aluminium and was wandering if anyone knew anything about them,like age,or something.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Monarch Silver King posted by sam on 7/26/2000 at 5:04:12 AM
Silver Kings are collectable . they were made from the 30's to late 40's I think.try a post under the balloon disc.group

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Seeking Schwinn Light Blue NOS Bar Tape posted by: JimW. on 7/20/2000 at 8:54:14 AM
Help! I screwed up and ran out of color-matched bar tape before I finished the second side of my Continental's bars.
Haven't heard back from the guy I got the first roll from.
Anybody got a roll to sell? Jim the Bad Planner

AGE / VALUE:   Harry Quinn Info Desired posted by: Graham Harlowe on 7/20/2000 at 5:38:17 AM
I bought a circa 1973 Harry Quinn frame in the early 1980s (and probably put about 20 total miles on the darn thing). Is there any way to get some history on the company (reputation, volume, etc)? What about determining value of the frame? Thanks,

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Harry Quinn Info Desired posted by KCTOMMY on 7/22/2000 at 4:04:38 PM
Harry Quinn cycles were a relatively famous English custom frame maker. They worked almost exclusively in Reynolds tubing, and could do really elegant lugwork if the buyer was willing to pay for it. Harry's frames in the 70's were usually considered to be stiffer with shorter wheel bases and more "modern" than other Euro builders. If the frame is in good condition with original paint and decals and in an average size, I would guess it would fetch around $300. Harry was always a one person operation so his frames probably number only in the low thousands. He was a builder for over 35 years, starting in 1945 in his father's frame shop in Liverpool. He was a certified reynolds 753 builder, but I've never seen a 753 Quinn. I believe he stopped building sometime in the 80s.

AGE / VALUE:   Rollfast Space Racer posted by: brenda on 7/19/2000 at 1:09:13 PM
my father-in-law just un-earthed a ladies rollfast space racer with it's original tank and paint. there's some surface rust(mainly on the chrome) and the lens is missing on the headlight. he wanted to give it a new paint job, new seat and new wheels, so his wife could ride it, but i wasn't sure if he would be destroying the value of the bike. what is the value on this model, restored?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Rollfast Space Racer posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/21/2000 at 6:40:59 AM
Having just let out a bloodcurdling scream I will answer. Please do not let him paint this bike It would destroy any value it has. If it has it's origonal tank and origonal paint then why change it? We need to see apicture of the bike to comment on value. Change what you want to to make it a comfortable, ridable bike but do not paint over origonal decals. Surface rust can be cleaned up easily.

AGE / VALUE:   Bastide track bike?? posted by: Joe on 7/19/2000 at 2:50:01 PM
I purchased this bike from an old woman who said it was raced in 1918 in Niack NY.. I would like to know where to find more info on this Bastide. It has 26" wooden wheels that look like they are glued on to the rim. It has the letters BSA on the big ring, no brakes, 1 speed direct drive, all steel, and the tires are Hutchinson Krono Milano made in Italy. I posted a pic at http://hometown.aol.com/jjcczz/myhomepage/index.html

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Bastide track bike?? posted by Tom Faust on 7/20/2000 at 10:24:58 AM
Can't tell you much about the wooden wheels, except that an old shaft drive bike I found in my barn had the same. It is probably safe to assume that "BSA" stands for Bermingham Small Arms. They made guns and motorcycles and the odd bike here and there. They also did contract machine work in the way that Singer Sewing Machine made machine guns. How come nopictures of the Chevelle?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Bastide track bike?? posted by Hilary Stone on 8/2/2000 at 8:58:00 AM
Bastide Bikes were built in Paris. The earliest catalogue I have is 1911 and they apparently stopped building about 1935–6. They were mostly built from BSA fittings with Reynolds tubing, pre 531 of course. They were very modern in design and the road versions are generally credited in England with having modernised the style of bike raced on the road. The seatstays were brazed up (previously most had been bolted), both chain and seat stays were tapered, the bottom bracket was lower at about 10.5in and used 26in wheels rather than the 28 x 1 1/2in wheels used previously. I would be interested to know the frame number as we are at present in England trying to make sense of the numbering system. We know of about a dozen Bastides in England – they had a very enthusiastic importer here and I've heard of several in the US. In France Bastide is also highly rated. I wrote a short areticle in the British magazine Cycling Plus last year on Bastide and can send a copy if you are interested.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Austro Dailmer posted by: Tom Faust on 7/18/2000 at 5:52:29 PM
I recently came across and old bike shop with a number of vintage lightweights still in the box. I was attracted to an Austro Daimler on display. Unfortunately, it had a mixte (girls) frame. I understand that he has a mens version in a box. The bicycle on display is similar to the one shown at the d'oro website in the Austrian section as the Vent Noir. Can anyon tell me more about these bikes.

   Austro Dailmer posted by John E on 7/19/2000 at 1:01:34 PM
Austro Daimler was a short-lived brand name from Austria's
big, venerable Steyr-Daimler-Puch factory. Depending on your
needs and the price being sought, a NOS Vent Noir (French:
"black wind") could be a nice find. A-D frames tend to be
sturdy and well-finished. I still enjoy riding my 1961 Capo,
which was S-D-P's top-of-the-line touring bike in its day.
The only downside is that Swiss-threaded bottom bracket cups
are getting somewhat scarce. (I successfully rethreaded my
Peugeot from Swiss (25.4TPI) to English (24TPI), but most
bike shops and manufacturers would probably cringe at the
thought.) Sheldonbrown.com has additional information on

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Austro Dailmer posted by frank on 9/18/2000 at 3:56:00 PM

The pics at the d'oro site were my donation. My dad bought me a Vent Noir back in the 70s. I recently got back into cycling after being away for more than 13 years, and upgraded my parts to Campagnolo Record 10s. (Blasphemy to many, but it's my main ride) I have a Bicycling magazine from November 1976 that features a road test of the Vent Noir, and also the sales brochure of that time featuring the entire AD line-up.
I have seen several of these on e-bay in the $300 range, and a NOS Vent Noir went for about $450 this summer.
I hope to interest my wife in cycling and it would be nice to have a mixte for her.

AGE / VALUE:   Gios Champion posted by: ike03 on 7/18/2000 at 10:37:16 AM
I have recently aquired a Gios Champion Road Bike. Its from the early eighties and has Campy components with Phil Wood hubs. Does anyone know more about this bicycle?

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   How old is my Phillips? posted by: Rick Piras on 7/15/2000 at 5:27:40 PM
In my uncle's garage I found an old Phillips. He's unable to fix it up, and I'm trying to figure out what it would take me to fix it up for him. It's a rod actuated brake bike with a single speed freewheel and "Phillips" cast into the chainring. It's got 28 X 1.5 wheels (Standard Guaranty Roadsters). The serial number is 7452KT. I can do most of the paint prep work, etc. but my main question is where can I get the decals reproduced, and realistically how much am I looking at to get this done? Finally, what kind of saddle would this bike have had originally? (It has a replacement). Can anyone tell me approximately how old this bike is?

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   How old is my Phillips? posted by ChritopherRobin on 7/16/2000 at 10:43:46 AM
Please check out the English Roadster section here. This is the lightweight section. What you have is a English Roadster. You will be wanting the E-mail address for "NICK at LLOYDS" He has a huge web site with all the decals listed. This is quite a job you are jumping off into and it will get a bit expensive and take a while. I would leave it alone and get it roadworthy. Re-grease the fittings like the headset,bottombracket, wheels hubs, clean, perhaps a new chain, clean chrome plate, and enjoy an origonal untouched bike this summer and leave a restoration job for winter months! If this is really really tatty than I would talk with Nick at" NICK at LLOYDS" the e-mail address is in the roadster section just scroll down. If you need phantom diagrams, small bit parts, help or printed literature sent to you then E-mail me your post address. http://www.ChristopherRobin@starmail.com I would like to see a picture, We all would.

AGE / VALUE:   Ross custom posted by: NIck on 7/14/2000 at 10:15:38 PM
ive found a ross custom three speed internal hub serial#346892 can anyone tell me anything about it

MISC:   Rivendell needs our help immediately! posted by: ChristopherRobin on 7/15/2000 at 11:40:36 AM
I have learned that Rivendell Bicycle Works is asking for your help. I am apealing that you place an order immediately for something. Go to http://www.Rivendellbicycles.com/catalog/ and chose something you would order anyway in the future.
Seemingly necessary changes including a move have left them cash poor at a bad time. Take a look at what Rivendell has done for us all, the dedication that these folks have shown, the wide variety of neat things they carry, some especially for Rivendell. They NEED YOUR ORDER NOW! They need to get in some extra orders to get caught up and keep head above water. Rivendell sells Brooks saddles, Nitto racks and stems(Supurbe quality Japaneese steel racks and alloy stems)Carridice bags. e.t.c. THIS IS ONE COMPANY, WE SIMPLY CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE. They have shown too much dedication for us not to help them out with an order. Who else has done so much? Have you seen the Rivendell Reader? I do not want to try and imagine the scene here if we should lose Rivendell. It is wrong to sit by and allow Rivendell to fold up. We all would suffer in the future.

   RE:MISC:   Rivendell needs our help immediately! posted by Bruce VR on 7/15/2000 at 3:20:59 PM
You said a mouthful there! Our only source for cotton bar tape, normal no-logo traditional gloves and non-lycra wool shorts, just a few of the things I'm ordering to help out! Long live traditional cycling! Grant is the George Bailey of the 1960's-84 cycling crowd!!! Hang in there baby!

   RE:RE:MISC:   Rivendell needs our help immediately! posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/16/2000 at 10:46:31 AM
I was talking with a guy and he was relating how he had sold a Rivendell he had made for him and how he was sorry he did and he was trying to get it back. We all are going to be sorry if we let Rivendell go under.