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Archived: Vintage Lightweights

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Capo: overlooking the obvious posted by: John E on 1/13/2001 at 8:08:22 AM
I have mentioned my Campy/Reynolds ca. 1960 Austrian-built Capo road bike, with its unique ornately carved lugwork, and someone else once inquired about the marque. After several search engine attempts over the past few months, I finally tried the obvious: www.capo.at [Austria], and found the company's website, including a brief corporate history (founded in the 1930s by Otto Cap) and the distinctive script logo which graces my still-shiny nickel-plated headbadge. I have sent them an email requesting additional historical and model-specific data and will let you know what I receive. I had previously been told by a friend in the bike businss that Capo had been part of the Steyr-Daimler-Puch conglomerate, but perhaps they simply shared marketing and distribution channels.

Two years ago, someone was asking $1500 for a pristine 1958 Capo, but unfortunately mine, poorly repainted by a previous owner, became a $20 garage sale find for me.

FOR SALE:   Vintage lightweight collection for sale posted by: Peter Naiman on 1/12/2001 at 8:36:21 PM
1979 Exxon Graftek/ 50CM CC./ complete with all Campy SR/ Bike was purchased through the Trader last year/ Equipment appears either NOS or about 10miles of use. Beautiful stainless steel lugwork/ wheels are unbuilt(Cammpy high flange hubs). I can supply NOS low flange campy NR
wheelset instead. $1000.00/ Frame only $400.00

1979 Vitus 979/ 50cm/ Aluminum lugs with black tubing/ Bike is NOS/ Complete Campy NOS SR gruppo/ Mint condition
$900.00 /Frame only $300.00

1909 Columbia track bike/ Made in Westfield, Ma./ Restored by friend Andy Beleveau/ Came from original owners son in baskets of loose parts and then fully restored / 19 3/4" frame/ wood rims/ $550.00

1972 Rickert Trackbike/ 21&1/2" Decals profess that this bike was 1972 gold medal winner for East German team/ No validation with bike/ Mostly Campy in almost new condition/ frame is silver grey/ $700.00

1974 Raleigh Pro/ 56cm/ Frame was completely chromed/ complete Campy NR gruppo/ Equipment looks NOS or damn close/ No decals on the bike/ I can get the decal set if wanted/ gorgious bike/ $1000.00

1972 Schinn Paramount 21&1/2" / Bought from original owner/ used for three years and stored since 1975/ repainted by Schwinn Factory in black (the owner didn't like original stock orange paint)/ with chrome Nervex lugs/
complete Campy NR gruppo/ comes with all sales slips and repaint invoice, Gruppo is in mint condition. Decals were never reapplied by Schwinn,They are also included/ This is one of best condition Paramounts I've seen.
$900.00/Frame only $400.00

1915 Ivor Johnson, Unrestored wirh original wheels with restored original wood rims, original rear carrier rack and tools. $450.00

54cm Kestrel K4000 frame and fork, in very good condition. One piece carbon fiber monocoque frame design, with Mavic roller bearing headset. $350.00

54cm Canondale 3.0 frame and fork, probably mid to late 80s vintage, very clean condition $125.00 or B/O

Photos available by next week, Please email for information or call me at night @ 617-469-4581 after 8:00PM. or email to hetchinspete@hotmail.com

Thankyou, Peter Naiman
Boston, Mass

FOR SALE:   Vintage lightweight collection for sale posted by: Peter Naiman on 1/12/2001 at 8:27:14 PM

58 Bianchi Competizione 57cm; 50 Claud Butler All Rounder 22"; 72 Cinelli S.C.53cm; 84 Ciocc Designer 84 55cm; 84 Colnago Arabesque 53cm; 62 Frejus Pro 23"; 58 Geminiani 23";
50 Freddie Grubb 22"; 59 Hobbs of Barbican 23"; 58 Holdsworth Monsoon 23"; 63 Legnano Roma Olimpiade 23"; 80's Mercian Vincitore 22"; 69 Raleigh Pro 23 1/2"; 75 Raleigh Record 23"; 66 Schwinn Paramount all chrome P13 23"; 7? Schwinn Paramount Blk/chrome P13 23"; 68 Tigra Pro 22"; 78 Tomassini 55cm. There are also 2 Carlton framesets from the 50's and LOTS of parts. This collection will be arriving to Boston in approximately two weeks. Photos and further details will be available when they arrive. For more details please email or call (617)469-4581. They will be sold on a first inquiry basis, in order of who emailed first.

AGE / VALUE:   Brake Parts posted by: Walter on 1/12/2001 at 2:46:18 PM
I am restoring a 531 frame by "Harding." Campy NR throughout. Bike was in really bad shape. Buffing wheel restored appearance of calipers but chrome plated steel parts such as barrel adjustors and release levers were beyond redemption. Anybody have any for a reasonable price? This bike will be ridden, not a concours restoration project so I don't need perfection, just something that looks and works reasonably well.

I realize that I am skating on the thin ice of heresy, but am I correct in recalling that early Dia Compe calipers were Campy imitations and that the small parts interchange? Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Brake Parts posted by Keith on 1/16/2001 at 12:17:01 PM
Bicycleclasics.com has small parts for Campy NR brakes. In addition to Campy NRs, I have two sets of early Gran Comps, that are very very close copies of Campys, but I would not attest to 100% interchangeability. But you'd have to find and buy those and they may not be cheap either! I too have swapped Dia Compe and Weinmann parts -- bolts, QRs, everything! -- as these companies literally traded brake designs, beginning with those awful dual position levers. Another possiblity would be a set of Campy Victory or Triomphe calipers, also available at Bicycle Classics, which are pretty nice and look very NRish, though you'd give up that silky smooth cam quick release. Universal 68s would also be spiritually correct if European origin is important to you. As usual I digress but there is something special about the NR calipers -- when I was a kid it was the best set of brakes you could get, and a clear sign that you had gone way overboard on bicycling.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Brake Parts posted by Oscar on 1/14/2001 at 2:39:19 PM
I freely admit to swapping out Weinmann parts with its Dia Compe cousin. I know it's a Campy thing, but people shouldn't be ashamed to show their Dia Compe parts. Always reliable, sometimes pretty.

MISC:   Peugeot bottom bracket posted by: Robert on 1/12/2001 at 11:49:48 AM
Lookiing at a fairly new Peugeot 15 speed. How can I know if it has the "unavailable" bottom bracket ? I don't care to buy something that has unavailable or hard to get parts.

   RE:MISC:   Peugeot bottom bracket posted by Keith on 1/12/2001 at 12:30:19 PM
15 speeds means 5 in the back, and 5 speed freewheel means early 70s (or even earlier), so I think there's a very good chance you're into the weird stuff. Resident francophiles will elaborate further.

   other components? posted by John E on 1/12/2001 at 12:51:40 PM
Keith is right about the 5-cog freewheel. Please identify the model (if possible) and other components, plus serial number, to be sure of the vintage. Here's the story on Peugeot bottom bracket threadng:
pre-1980: French (35x1mm, RH threaded both sides)
1980-1992?: Swiss (35x1mm, LH threaded fixed cup)
current: made in Canada; English-threaded

French and Swiss BB cups are somewhat scarce, but they are available (sheldonbrown.com, eBay, etc.). Phil Wood still supports French and Swiss threading, so you can always go for the $85 sealed cartridge BB upgrade, which should be a lifetime repair.

Several years ago, when I changed the crankset on my 1980 Peugeot PKN-10E and therefore needed a new fixed cup, I successfully forced an English-threaded (i.e., ISO-standard) cup into my Swiss-threaded frame. The diameters (35mm and 1.37") are virtually identical, but the thread pitch is off by a few percent (25.4 TPI versus 24 TPI). Purists will cringe, but I have had no trouble whatsoever with this forced rethreading. (This trick will not work if you have a French-threaded BB shell, whose fixed cup threads are cut in the opposite direction.) If your BB wall is thick enough, you can always have it bored out and rethreaded Italian (24 TPI x 36mm -- I do not know who came up with this weird hybrid standard).

Other weird French parameters include headset threading, and, if you have one that was not built for the American market, pedal and freewheel threading, as well.

Sheldonbrown.com also has a wealth of French bicycle information. If you like the frame and it fits you well, I recommend going ahead with the purchase. Over the years, I have owned and enjoyed several Peugeots.

AGE / VALUE:   Columbia model 32 posted by: Howard on 1/12/2001 at 7:53:14 AM
I have a 26 inch Columbia, men's frame bicycle. The badge on the head tube says "Columbia model 32 made by Pope Mfg. Co." and then lists seven patent dates from the 1880's. It is single speed, direct drive with a cable operated drum brake on the rear wheel only. Because of the direct drive, it has small foot rests on the front fork. Fork, handlebars and badge appear to be nickel plated. There is absolutely no rust and the black paint on the frame looks good. The petals have white rubber blocks that show some deteration. The back wheel has heavier spokes than the front and the rims are a different design which leads me to believe that one wheel may have been replaced. The grips are open-ended black tubing. The chain is at least 1/2 in wide. I need all the information I can get. This bike is too good to restore! Thanks, howard

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Columbia model 32 posted by Keith on 1/12/2001 at 9:57:19 AM
Your question will probably get an answer if posed to the Oldroads Highwheeler, Boneshaker, Safety section.

AGE / VALUE:   CURLEY HETCHINS posted by: Art on 1/11/2001 at 6:19:09 PM
Curley Hetchins on e-bay #538577386, rough, with what looks like a Major Taylor adjustable stem.

FOR SALE:   OLD DURA ACE CRANKS posted by: MC on 1/11/2001 at 2:20:49 PM
I have the folowing for sale--1 set of 170mm Dura Ace cranks in near-mint condition. They are the older version with "Dura Ace" embossed on the crankarms I also have a perfect set of old Superbpro Q/R brake calipers. Please make me reasonable offer on these.

AGE / VALUE:   NEED HELP WITH A SERIAL NUMBER PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!!! posted by: Kevin K on 1/11/2001 at 2:06:39 PM
Hi I picked up a sweet looking Schwinn " EXERCISER " at a sale today. It's nice !!!!!!!!!!!!!! The serial number startes with an I ( I5000632 is toyal s/n ) I've checked all the places I know, and ask several guys. No one can I.D. this as it starts with an I. So help he out guys please. I'm not much into these " bikes " but it was so clean/ mint plus it's that copper color Schwinn put on them. Although I'm not sure it's copppertone, it is cool. S-7 rim, monkey bars, Huret speedometer. COOL !!!!!!!!!!! So if someone knows the year, please let me know. Kevin

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Information please posted by: Bob Atwood on 1/11/2001 at 1:11:23 PM
I just bought a vintage 10 speed for parts. A closer inspection of the frame suggests that I might not want to toss it. The bike is a "Hugh Porter" Professional Pursuit. Steel construction but the tubing decal has come off. Size is probably 56cm c/c. Rear dropouts are Campy with screw adjust. Lugs are well done with fairly long "points" but no fancy cutouts except on the forks. Bike can be no older than early 70s. Components are mostly Japanese (Suntour cyclone Suguno Sake). Looking at the frame finish it seems well-made. Any information would be appreciated.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Information please posted by Warren on 1/11/2001 at 5:58:14 PM
There was a generation of Japanese bikes in the late 70s early eighties that had Ishwata O22 (double butted tubes & stays), Campy dropouts and fairly aggresive geometries. I've seen these frames dressed up in the guise of Bianchis, Miyatas, Mieles and Fujis. If the frame is very light and the lugs are plain but well done, (look closely) this may be one of those bikes. I've raved about my offshore Bianchi on this list a couple of times... and I'll say it again, they are great frames.

   serial number? posted by John E on 1/11/2001 at 6:54:05 PM
What is the serial number? Is it stamped into the bottom bracket? Kawamura (one of Nishiki's frame builders), for example, used a "KS" prefix. I agree with the comments regarding the quality of higher-end late 1970s Japanese frames -- they were considerably better than my 1971 Nishiki Competition. Also, of course, if it is a Japanese or Taiwanese frame, it will have English BB threading.

   RE:serial number? posted by Bob Atwood on 1/12/2001 at 8:40:59 AM
The serial number is "371" obviously each letter hand stamped on the BB. I have compared the frame with my 56cm Sutter (French, late 60s early 70s) with the following observations: The wheelbase is about 2 inches shorter due to straighter forks and tighter rear triangle geometry; the head tube (steering tube) is a bit shorter while the seat tubes are about the same in length and angle -- so the front of the Porter is a bit lower and "tighter"; one of the lugs has a small circle in the (original) paint which might indicate a pin -- I will know more as I disassemble it.

The B/B is a Suguno and has the threading marked -- I will check on that.

Thanks everyone for your help.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn World 10-speed? posted by: Mike Stone on 1/10/2001 at 7:46:26 PM
Check out this posting on e-bay: Item #535935800

It says it is a "Blue Schwinn World 10-speed". No photo and little description.

What was the Schwinn World 10-speed? The Schwinn World I get, but the 10-speed I don't get.


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn World 10-speed? posted by Oscar on 1/10/2001 at 8:14:25 PM
World Traveler? World Tourist? World Voyager? World of possiblities, I suppose.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn World 10-speed? posted by Keith on 1/11/2001 at 6:56:05 AM
The more recent (late 70s-80s), derailleur-equiped "World" Schwinns were made by Giant in Taiwan. They are pretty nice low end bikes and I see them regularly at garage sales for $5, $10, $20. I once made a nice fixed gear bike with an abandoned World frame. The World Sport was a top seller in 1989, according to Chauner & Halstead's Tour de france Complete Book of Cycling. Back then it cost $260. Now it's garage sale fodder. The ones I've seen sometimes have a tubing sticker indicating chromoly main tubes. Some have quick release front and back, some have bolt on rear wheel, and some have alloy rims, and some steel rims. The usually come with a low-end cotterless aluminum crank. I have a very nice World Tourist model that has the Positron derailleurs with the free-crank, upright handlebars and full fenders. It still has a small sticker on one dropout saying it was made for Schwinn by Giant. Bottom line: not colectable, and not worth the cost of shipping, IMHO.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn World 10-speed? posted by Eric Amlie on 1/11/2001 at 10:44:09 AM
I think we are talking about different bikes here. There are the Schwinn bikes that had the model names of World Tourist and World Sport that Kieth is referencing. There was also another bike that the brand name was World and the model name was Voyager or Voyageur. It was a higher end bike that looked pretty much like the Schwinn Voyageur II or Schwinn Volare with the chrome head lugs. The name "World (star) Voyageur" was on the down tube just like Schwinn did it except it said World instead of Schwinn. I'm sure there was some connection with Schwinn but I don't know what it was. I remember a thread on a discussion page either here or at the Schwinn forum about them. I think the contention was that they were made by the same folks who made the Voyageur for Schwinn but were for sale outside the U.S. I have no idea if this is correct and it was also a long time ago that I read it and I have C.R.S. I saw one at the Milwaukee swap meet last February. It was orange and looked like a pretty nice bike. I don't remember how it was equipped. Definitly a better bike than the Schwinn World Tourist or Schwinn World Voyageur though.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn World 10-speed? posted by Eric Amlie on 1/11/2001 at 10:54:42 AM
I should add that I have no idea what this bike on Ebay is though.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn World 10-speed? posted by Keith on 1/11/2001 at 12:30:36 PM
Now that you mention it I also recall a World Voyager, which I always assumed was made in Japan. For what it's worth, the Giant-built World bikes, if complete, should have a small decal, usually on the seat tube just above the bottom bracket, declaring that the bike was made in Taiwan or China. All of the World bikes I've seen lack a built in derailleur hanger. I've got a World Sport frame in my garage attic that I'm giving away to a friend who plans to use it as a "lock to the bike rack at work" bike. I'll look at it to confirm some of these details. I've already overdone this discussion, but I'd add that as cheap as these bikes are, I'd still rate them above the low end European bikes from the 70s.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Frame material's article posted by: Keith on 1/9/2001 at 8:23:28 AM
Sheldon Brown has a new (don't know how new though) article comparing frame materials at his Harris site -- www.sheldonbrown.com/frame-materials.html. Excellent reading, as usual.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Frame material's article posted by Oscar on 1/10/2001 at 8:16:32 PM
I read somewhere else that bonded aluminum frames have a useful lifespan of 3-4 years. Yikes!

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Frame material's article posted by Art on 1/11/2001 at 12:42:56 PM
I'd heard the same thing, Oscar, to the point that one shouldn't even casually ride an older bonded bike....but I don't know. I only had one bonded alum road bike that I traded away several years ago. I road it before I got rid of it without any problem. Anyone see these bikes come apart.

   RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Frame material's article posted by Oscar on 1/12/2001 at 8:16:34 AM
The problem is that most people wouldn't get rid of an expensive frame if there wasn't a problem with it...yet. Steel develops cracks then bends. Aluminum kind of snaps.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Frame material's article posted by Keith on 1/12/2001 at 12:38:32 PM
A good friend has gone through 2 bonded carbon frames (no injuries, thankfully). They seperated at the downtube/headtube juncture. He's kind of a slightly built guy, so weight doesn't account for it, and although he's a pretty strong rider, I wouldn't classify him as a hammerhead. He's riding a bonded warranty replacement frame now, but is thinking of switching to lugged steel.

MISC:   UPDATE posted by: Art on 1/8/2001 at 6:32:00 PM
A couple weeks off of work gave me a great opportunity to work on some of my current projects. The Paramount is just about finished for now. I am currently going with the Simplex single shifter and Tour de France rear derailleur. I have a good old Grand Sport rear derailleur and if anyone finds or has a lead on a single Campy downtube shifter, please let me know. I have yet to find the right rack, but what it takes is one that bolts to the rear drops, not the kind that clamps to the rear stays. My Paramount tandem is a mix of parts, it bugs me in some ways, but if Rivendell can do it, what the heck. I have Weinmann concave rims on Normany hubs, TA cranks, early Shimano cantilevers(they stick out so far I have to put red flags on 'em) and Shimano Schwinn approved front and rear derailleurs. The only matching pedals (4) that I had were Campy so I slapped them on. I put a set of black Tourist style bars on the front with old style Suntour thumb shifters. The black is all black with no flourish. I still have to put saddles on it and rear bars that fit my son, but it's almost there. I had an old copper colored Rudge clubman that I was always going to get to and someone gave me some Cream Blumell mudguards and they look great. It has a GB stem, drop bars and Courrier 66 brakes. It also has Bayliss Wylie hubs and Dunlop rims with cool wing nuts. Brooks saddle. Chrome rack and pump and the bike looks great. After I got the bars all taped up I realized that the brakes lacked hoods. Were hoods an option on brakes ? Did all brakes have hoods at one time and they rotted off? It has a Simplex suicide shifter and Tour de France rear.I had started this rebuild years ago, and since I'm out of money, I was able to put it all together without having to buy anything. I went for a ride and I felt that wonderful, alone on my bike feeling of exploration that I first felt when I was a little boy and later on my first ten speed climbing the Catalina mountains in So Arizona. I wasn't racing or commuting, I was just riding free and aimlessly. What a great life it is.

   RE:MISC:   UPDATE posted by Wings on 1/9/2001 at 12:40:00 AM

   suggestions posted by John E on 1/9/2001 at 6:25:06 AM
Rack: The classic Pletscher "mousetrap" aluminum rack looks sharp, works great, bolts to the dropout eyelets, and is still pretty common on garage sale 10-speeds; you might have to spend $10 to buy an entire bike just for the rack. These came out in the late? 1950s. I'll see if I have a spare.

Shifter: For now, just use the Simplex shifter with the Campy GS rear derailleur. It should work better than that Simplex TdF, although if Simplex' shifter drum is larger than Campy's, it will be a bit short in the throw.

   RE:MISC:   UPDATE posted by Keith on 1/9/2001 at 8:35:30 AM
Bravo Art! I really enjoy your project updates. One of my big regrets is having hesitated and passed by 3 different pre-1960 lightweights when I had the chance (Wastyn Paramount, Hercules club (time trial) bike, and Peugeot 3-speed). All were presented to me in person, and all were way cheap even by eBay standards. If these things come along -- jump on them!

   RE:RE:MISC:   UPDATE posted by Keith on 1/9/2001 at 12:36:21 PM
P.S. Re brake levers -- my impression from TDF photos and the Data Book is that early on levers did not have hoods, and in fact the body of the lever was very small and probably not at all comfortable to hold. I'm thinking of Coppi-Bartoli photos I've seen which look as if the levers had cloth tape for padding. Right now I'm looking at the Mighty TOSRV book, at a 1944 pic of Chuck Siple holding his 1940-ish Wastyn Paramount over his head -- no lever hoods, and the body of the lever is very tiny -- not much to grasp onto. But I'd check some Cycles de Oro pics of 50s bikes.

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   UPDATE posted by Art on 1/10/2001 at 11:17:27 AM
Thanks guys. I taped the base part of the body of the brake. I double taped everything ( I thought a white cotton tape would look good and it didn't, so I just overtaped it with black) so it is a bit more comfortable. Ah Keith, bikes we've missed or sold....I was offered a French Astra (Much, much older than my 60's motobecane one.) It had this most amazing rear derailleur. it was complete, original, and it was really cheap.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   UPDATE posted by Keith on 1/11/2001 at 7:01:01 AM
Art, I looked through the post-war part of the Data Book, and all but a couple of levers were depicted without hoods, and this covers late 40s though early 50s. I saw a couple that might have had top covers, like some Mafacs I've seen but it was impossible to tell from the line drawings. I also checked some old TDF photos -- at least some mechanics wrapped those little lever bodies with tape.

MISC:   MONARK CORONET posted by: ROBIN on 1/8/2001 at 4:30:10 PM

   RE:MISC:   MONARK CORONET posted by Kath on 1/9/2001 at 1:28:28 PM
Have you checked the picture database?

WANTED:   French Peugeot Tourest Parts posted by: Ray on 1/8/2001 at 8:19:57 AM
I am in the process of restoring a nice French Peugeot touring bike from the 50s. It is very unusual and has an old unique three speed Simplex derailluer system. I need the following parts to complete my work. Any suggestions will be helpful.

Rear Reflector, this unit lights up from a generator. What I need is the lens at the top of this assembly or I will buy the whole assembly if necessary. Look at these URLs to see what I need.
Rear Reflector

Wing Nut, I need two of these, they are alloy.

Pedals, unusual shape with ring in center, could use a pair or just a left if you have only one.

Hand Grip, need one of these but will buy pair if necessary.
Thanks for your help and or suggestions.

   Peugeot posted by John E on 1/8/2001 at 3:20:37 PM
Wow! If you have posted a picture of the entire bike on the web, please post the URL. I am sure some of the rest of the gang would like to see it! Did you catch the near-pristine 10-speed Peugeot Randonneur on eBay last fall? It looked like the same colour scheme as yours.

   You asked for it ! posted by Ray on 1/9/2001 at 7:50:44 PM
This is my latest love. It is a mixte frame with a lot of unusual stuff.
First the coil spring loaded Simplex 3 speed derailluer is fully intact and a real retro blast. Note the spring from the derailluere cage to a braze on just behind the BB and under the chain guard.
It has unique brakes that are like Bulldog BMX type where a wedge drives up between the brake arms to spread them and put pressure on the rim.
It has a capped oil hole between the top and down tubes almost big enough to put a bottle of 10W30 into. The cable clamps are just braze ons that fold over the cable.
Stainless steel fenders with a painted stripe. Braze on generator mount. Fantastic aluminum chain guard and get a load of the two aluminum panniers. Really a retro
dream bike. Can't wait to finish it off and display it. Here is the URL for your reference.

   RE:You asked for it ! posted by Art on 1/10/2001 at 6:23:26 AM
Interesting bike. A few questions--what size are the tires/rims? is there any writing on the rear derailleur? If you toss the rack, can I have it? Hah! And lastly, what makes a bike a mixte frame, as opposed to a girl's frame in this case (not that there is anything wrong with a girtl's frame!)

   Mixte frame posted by Eric Amlie on 1/10/2001 at 6:42:56 AM
Regarding the mixte frame; I think it's the fact that the "top tube(s)" continues past the seat tube to join up with the stays at the rear dropouts. A normal girls frame has the "top tube" end at the seat tube.

   RE:WANTED:   French Peugeot Tourest Parts posted by Keith on 1/11/2001 at 12:35:45 PM
Wonderful project! It shows that we've barely scratched the surface of what the Europeans made before the bike boom.

   RE:Peugeot posted by Rob Allen on 1/22/2001 at 11:50:54 AM
I resently aquired a peugeot 10 speed bike. I new nothing about, except the owner said it had hand stiched tires that would be expencive to replace and they were shot. The bike was free to hall out of garage were it had been for app.20 some years. Iloaded it up brought it home and after I figured out the tire pump and funny stems I attemped to air up tires. Well they both took air and this has been about 2 months ago still up. How can I tell age and value of this bike? Paint,seat,brakes,ect ect all in almost new condition.