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Archived: Vintage Lightweights

AGE / VALUE:   MIXTE FRAME QUESTION posted by: Kevin on 4/15/2001 at 5:01:31 PM
Hi. I picked up a very nice NISHIKI " Sport " mixte frame bike at a garage sale the other day. 4130 tubing. Forged dropouts. Suntour equiptment. Perfect paint. $10. Now a friend tells me the bike is a " girls " bike. I was informed years ago mixtes were " unisex " bikes. I don't really care, it's nice. I'll ride it just fine, but I am wondering exactly how is a mixte frame classified, boy or girl. Thanks, Kevin

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   MIXTE FRAME QUESTION posted by Mike Slater on 4/15/2001 at 5:28:33 PM
Hi Kevin,

Mixte frames were billed as "safety" frames, not as bikes for girls.I just finished (as of last night) building a mixte frame Motobecane - rides great, looks beautiful. Don't worry about what your friend says. Enjoy the bike!
Here is a link to a great looking mixte frame bike:

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   MIXTE FRAME QUESTION posted by Warren on 4/15/2001 at 7:31:21 PM
GIRLY BIKE!! (no disrespect Mike)

But then again, so was the circa 1940 womens CCM roadster I took down to the Easter Day parade today with my son in the trailer behind. I had the classiest bike on the street. As a matter of fact, I have five womens frames that I occasionally chose from to be the mount of the day. My wife tends to ride a Lemond road bike...so what. Step through frames are actually really great...especially when you've got a tall load on the rear rack. Social prejudices aside, I think the only inappropriate use of a womens or mixte frame would be in competitive rides where their inherent flexibility wiuld be a huge disadvantage...although I would like to ride that Austro-Daimler! Enjoy the bike if you like it.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   MIXTE FRAME QUESTION posted by Kevin on 4/15/2001 at 7:40:16 PM
Thanks guys !! Kevin

   MIXTE FRAMES posted by John E on 4/16/2001 at 6:51:40 AM
The mixte frame is an elegant, well-designed response to the problem of building a step-through frame without paying a huge penalty in weight and lateral stiffness. At UCLA, my graduate thermodynamics course instructor, a visiting professor from France, commuted to campus on a Motobecane mixte. When I worked at Bikecology/Supergo, we had to struggle to keep up with the huge demand for white Peugeot mixtes.

Most of the men in Japan ride step-through frames, and look at the downward-sloping top tubes on today's hot mountain bikes.

   RE:MIXTE FRAMES posted by Art on 4/16/2001 at 7:08:22 AM
The grand mother/father of all mixte frames is on e-bay.
1134473905 Rene Herse.

   Rene Herse posted by John E on 4/16/2001 at 7:40:04 AM
Thanks for the posting, Art. Magnifique! Check out the current price ($1700+) and the name of the current high bidder (JUY543).

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   MIXTE FRAME QUESTION posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 4/16/2001 at 9:15:14 AM
C.C.M. Roadster? Dude! I have many sets of N.O.S. Canadian mudguards!(fenders) We have to chat! ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com

Mixte frame bikes are ok with me. I find a lot of them.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   MIXTE FRAME QUESTION posted by Fred on 4/16/2001 at 7:29:19 PM
The reason we have/had really low stepover frames e.g.,used on older Schwinns, was to make it easy for women wearing dresses to preserve their dignity and the arrangement of their clothing while mounting up. The Mixte frame, when compared with older women's models is too high for most people to mount up easily. I have a bunch of Mixte framed bikes and I mount up same way I do my road bikes i.e. by throwing a leg over the saddle. That being the case, I say Mixte frames are generic and non-threatening to anyone's male ego.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   MIXTE FRAME QUESTION posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 4/17/2001 at 11:01:37 AM
Unfortunitly these get thought of as "a girls bike" not even as "a womans bicycle" and they get the parts robbed off of them and the mixte frames get tossed in the dumpster. I have pulled Mafac parts off of these Mixte frames while marveling at the way the Mafac cvables are routed thru the frame tubing I stll strip found Mixte frames. I did this to a Jenuet or was it a LeJune. I'll bet I have committed bicycle sin with a lot of Mixte frames this way. People think they are worth less then a mans cycle frame. Aren't these lighter though? I agree about it being a safer bike for a fellow though.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   MIXTE FRAME QUESTION posted by MichaelW on 4/18/2001 at 4:36:39 PM
In the UK, Mixte frames are often ridden by keen women cyclists, and are definately not a girls frame. They do suffer from too much metal doing too little work. Those spaghetti tubes do very little to aid stiffness. I dont know of any UK framebuilder who offers a mixte touring bike, but Ive seen plenty of ones with lowered top tubes.
Its a classic, very French style.

AGE / VALUE:   Is this anything? posted by: Greg Groth on 4/14/2001 at 9:08:25 PM
Cleaning house and throwing out a lot of old junk and found this stem (link to pictures below). I don't know where I got it from. I was about to toss it as I have collected a large number of road stems and really have no use for any of them. I noticed the Schwinn Forged stamping in the side of the stem, and thought someone might be able to put it to better use than sitting in a box. I can't locate my caliper, but am guessing the stem is 22.2, but I could be wrong. If anyone has any idea of what this might of came on, or be interested in it, please drop me a line.


VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Rare Junk posted by: Guy B. Meredith on 4/13/2001 at 7:24:59 PM
I am curious as to whether you might have some information or can point me to someone who might have
information on an of bike of mine. I have a bike vintage approximately 1972 and am curious to trace
the history. I am aware it is probably a mass production bike and there may not be anyone willing to
take blame for it. I was told it was manufactured by Nishiki's shops--don't remember by whom,
possibly the sale person.

The logo is American Flyer Jewel and on the seat tube says Gran Sport. It appears to be set up along
the lines of a touring bike.

Frame: No name, fancier than normal lugs with generally very good brazing
Rear deraileur: SunTour GT
Front deraileur: SunTour Sport
Freewheel: SunTour Perfect 14-34
Crank: Maxi 3 spoke
Chain wheels: 42-54 (?)
Brakes: Diacompe center pull with Mafac cable hardware
Brake levers: SunTour Power shift stem mounted
Stem: SR
Handlebar: Sakai 40 cm
Rims: 27" Araya Lightalloy

   RE:serial number? posted by Guy B. Meredith on 4/16/2001 at 7:44:15 AM

I am still trying to find my way around the data base here. Could you
forward your earlier postings on the American Eagle to my email?
The address is guy.meredith@astragate.net. By the way, the serial
number appears to be on the bottom of the seat tube and looks like

   serial number? posted by John E on 4/13/2001 at 8:20:21 PM
It sounds suspiciously like a Kawamura (American Eagle, Nishiki) effort to me, Guy, particularly if the serial number is prefaced with a K and a second letter and is stamped into the bottom bracket shell. Is there any evidence that the 42T ring is after-market? Most Nishikis of the early 1970s had half-step gearing, such as 54-47 / 14-34. The Kokusai had the Maxi 3-bolt cranks, powershift,, and straight-gauge Ishiwata CrMo main triangle, whereas the SemiPro had double-butted CrMo main triangle and 5-bolt Campy-clone Sugino Mighty Compe cranks. As I have mentioned in earlier posts, the brazing on my American Eagle was good, but the response was somewhat spongy and dead-feeling.

WANTED:   Front Wheel posted by: Jeff Laurence on 4/13/2001 at 12:25:29 PM
Greetings, I'm looking for a front wheel to match the rear
on my Raleigh Super Tourer.The back wheel is a Maillard
700 wide flange with QR, the rim is a Weinmann concave aluminum
clincher type. Does anybody have one they would part with ?
BTW- I found this bike at the end of someone's driveway
ie garbage! It was a bit rough , but after cleaning and straightening
it's going to be a nice ride.

   RE:WANTED:   Front Wheel posted by Jeff on 4/13/2001 at 1:20:16 PM
BTW the rim is 27x1-1/4

   RE:WANTED:   Front Wheel posted by Greg Groth on 4/13/2001 at 11:17:18 PM
I have a set of 27" weinmann concave rims that I will be daisassembling next week. I'm replacing the 27" rims with 700 rims for a better selection of tires for the wife. Rims are straight, a little scuffed, and have less than 500 miles. Both rims have eyelets and are drilled for schraeder valves. Front is 36h, back is 40h.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   wanted: good ride posted by: Brian L. on 4/12/2001 at 9:15:48 PM
Hey, I know that this should be in the wanted section, but you guys seem to have like tastes, and I have corresponded and done business with a couple of you.

Here goes: looking for an interesting dbl-butted frame/fork of 70's-80's vintage. 56/57 squareish with racing geometry of the time. Italian, French, certain American i.e. Columbus Treks. 7-8 paint, good chrome (if any). Doesn't have to be top shelf, but good workmanship and ride. Up to $250 plus shipping is what I've got to work with.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   wanted: good ride posted by Keith on 4/17/2001 at 7:39:03 AM
Nice used and even purported NOS frames show up on ebay all the time (except when I need one). Try searching "56cm bike" and "57cm bike"

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   a visit to CyclArt posted by: John E on 4/12/2001 at 2:46:49 PM
(This is NOT a commercial posting!) I just spent a delightful hour in Jim and Susan Cunningham's CyclArt shop (Vista CA), rummaging through a fascinating collection of components, frames, and bicycles. They certainly have the largest collection of vintage lightweights that I have ever seen. Since they know another Capo owner, they can probably give mine an accurate reproduction paint/decal job.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   a visit to CyclArt posted by Skip Echert on 4/14/2001 at 10:05:58 PM
Hello John -

I also vote for the Capo repaint. It deserves a rejuvination; whether you do it now or later (or someone else does it later) is the only question. Paint will take it out of the daily rider category and probably will mean you need a new (at least to you) bike as your daily ride, unless you don't already have one. (I suspect you would enjoy a late 70s or early 80s Nishiki.) Returning the Capo to its original configuration is a bigger question, and would take it out of your sunny day ride category and put it in a once-a-year vintage ride category or be an ornament on a wall. I don't have such a classy project but hope to have one in the next few years.

In any event, I hope you have frame-savered (or similiar material) the insides so it will be preserved, as Oscar suggests, for future generations.



   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   a visit to CyclArt posted by Keith on 4/16/2001 at 7:11:56 AM
Without hesitation, I vote for restoration, for the very reasons you point out above: your Capo is an uncommon, pre-bike boom lightweight with top-end tubing and workmanship. It also has special significance to you personally. Go for it!

   classic repaint posted by John E on 4/16/2001 at 7:25:41 AM
Thanks for your respective responses and viewpoints, everyone! Although my 1980 Peugeot PKN-10E (noncollectible, d.b. 531 main triangle, few original components) can take over much of my commuting/beater service, I do not want to reduce the Capo to a wall hanging. (I spent two delightful hours, including a winding mile-long 10-percent hill climb through the Torrey Pines State Reserve, on it just after sunrise on Easter morning.)

Another issue:
The Capo is devoid of braze-ons, although it originally had two flimsy rear brake cable clips on the bottom of the top tube. (Mr. Slater's appear to work OK, but I had to cheat with a little baling wire to keep my first Capo's brake cable from sagging.) I will keep the three conventional chrome rear brake cable clamps (which LOOK correct) and the clamp-on shifters, front derailleur, and cable guides, but I am very tempted to have a set of water bottle cage mounting bosses brazed onto the downtube, to avoid defiling the new reproduction "CAPO Sieger" downtube decals. Would this be a mistake? I suppose the historically correct thing to do is to clip a double water bottle cage to the front of the handlebar, but this would hide that distinctive, still-pristine Capo head badge.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   a visit to CyclArt posted by Oscar on 4/12/2001 at 7:32:24 PM
Spending your tax refund?

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   a visit to CyclArt posted by desmo on 4/12/2001 at 9:43:03 PM
It won't go very far there. He had a Nuovo Triple crank up on ebay for something like 400 bucks! Needless to say no one was dumb enough to pay it.

   pricing posted by John E on 4/13/2001 at 6:25:15 AM
Prices on certain rare near-NOS items are high everywhere and often can be set only in an open auction forum, such as eBay. A high-reserve eBay posting is a valid form of market research. I got out of CyclArt for less than $25 with brand-new reproduction Weinmann brake hoods and a very good used Stronglight 44T chainring.

I spent my income tax refund on my property tax bill. In California, the two property tax installments are due 10 December (Christmas season) and 10 April (tax season) -- go figure!

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   a visit to CyclArt posted by Art on 4/13/2001 at 8:52:13 AM
Good luck with your plans, John. From reading your posts, I trust that you will make a good decision. I would be remiss, however, if I didn't offer up an opinion. Not wanting to get into the back biting thing, generically I would add that any business has its critics, or unsatisfied customers. Some are invalid, but some may ring true. If I were having a bike restored, I would make sure that the restorer understood everything that I expected. If your restorer understands what you want, including such mundane things as specific decal placement, and recourse if you're not satisfied, then I think things should work out. You're probably going to spend a decent chunk of change and sometimes the hard part of the job is talking it all out at first.

   repaint posted by John E on 4/13/2001 at 8:45:53 PM
Thanks for your concern, Art. I am still debating whether it will be worth it TO ME to spend $225 having my $20 commuter/beater repainted. It is a rare, beautifully made historic frame (full 531, proprietary ornate lugwork, perfect brazing) that deserves to look good. However, it has served my transportation needs well for 5 years under the guise of a previous owner's dull red Rustoleum paint job, and it is perversely fun to ride a great bike that looks like @#$%*. People who really know bikes see and appreciate the diamond in the rough, whereas potential thieves see only the skin-deep Rustoleum. (Of course, the only two bikes I have lost to theft were real junkers ...) Also, I am not interested in spending additional money to replace my aluminum cranks with period-correct cottered steel, or my 12- (soon to be 14-) speed SunTour power train with the "correct" heavy, clunky 10-speed Campy Gran Sport, including that abominable plunger-type front. I have spent enough time with various specimens of both to know that Record and N.R. represented a significant step beyond Gran Sport.

   RE:repaint posted by Oscar on 4/14/2001 at 1:00:25 PM
I think your Capo deserves it. Reading all your earlier posts about this bike, and your correspondence with the bike-maker, it only makes sense.

In my own small way, I try to preserve the things that come my way. Down the road, I hope my future great-grandchildren will be able to ride a 1958 Italian roadbike in the year 2101.

AGE / VALUE:   SCHWINN LE TOUR LUXE REAR WHEEL: SEE WANTED SECTION posted by: Kevin on 4/12/2001 at 12:09:45 PM

MISC:   Is this site loading faster? posted by: Wings on 4/12/2001 at 12:18:17 AM
For awhile I had to wait to get on Oldroads. For the last week or so my computer just flys on this site. It is great!!! I removed some ram in my computer -- Did that do it? Or, have you also noticed the faster speed? If so, Hats off to VVVintage!!!! (Or did I have bad ram?)

   RE:MISC:   Is this site loading faster? posted by Cal on 4/12/2001 at 7:05:02 AM
At the end of January they increased something (server space? bandwidth?) Here's their message:


   RE:RE:MISC:   Is this site loading faster? posted by Wings on 4/13/2001 at 12:12:23 AM
Thanks Cal! I missed that post! Thanks for the information.

MISC:   Am I missing something? posted by: Greg Groth on 4/11/2001 at 11:19:28 PM
$123 for a set of SunTour Command Shifters?


Am I missing something here? I don't remember paying close to that when I got mine 9 years ago.

   wow posted by John E on 4/12/2001 at 7:22:16 AM
It was a 3-way bidding war among fairly experienced eBayers. I am surprised the price got that high, but they are NOS, and although I use plenty of Campy and Shimano as well, I still think SunTour made some of the best-ever shifters and derailleurs.

   RE:MISC:   Am I missing something? posted by Keith on 4/12/2001 at 9:30:19 AM
I have no experience with these shifters, but would agree that Suntour made some of the best components ever, including the ubiquitous ratchet barcons, and most of its Superbe line (I have some Superbe Pro brakes and pedals that stand up favorably to anything Campy ever made). My experience with Suntour is mixed, however, as I've had several old V series rear derailleurs that were basically worn out and shifted very sloppy, and I had a couple of XC long cages that worked rather poorly too.

   RE:MISC:   Am I missing something? posted by Greg Groth on 4/13/2001 at 11:12:59 PM
I was just surprised at anything with the Suntour name going for that kind of pricing. Personally I love the stuff, I just bought a NOS set of Superbe Pro cranks to finish off the groupo I started 9 years ago, (and even that was less than the shifters). I remember back when I bought these shifters, Shimano was integrating the shifters with the brake levers. I think this was also around the time Shimano came out with the Hyperglide chain that needed special replacement pins every time you split the chain. I quickly started to dislike Shimano. As far as the Command Shifters, I love them, more durable than the Shimano integrated brake levers at the time, a hell of a lot cheaper too. While on the subject of Suntour, would anyone know where one might obtain the overhaul procedure for the Superbe Pro brakes with the internal spring? A Suntour rep I had met back a ways advised never to disassemble them, and if you did, to send them to him and he'd put them back together, they were supposed to be real bad to mess with I guess. My front brake is sticking a bit, (caliper is sticking, not the cable nor the lever) and I'm a little hesitant to rip it apart after hearing that kind of reccomendation.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Am I missing something? posted by Keith on 4/16/2001 at 1:11:33 PM
I'd be tempted to treat it like an internal gear hub -- soak it or flush it out with something thin -- a solvent, and then inject some kind of appropriate lubricant, like Tri-flo.

AGE / VALUE:   Peugeot PB14 posted by: tom on 4/11/2001 at 6:39:15 PM
A friend of mine has a 1988 Peugeot PB14 triathalon design bike that he wants to sell.It is in very good shape.EX 4130 Chromemoly tubes. It has shimano sis shifters, shimano light action rear derailleur, sakae sa crank, Maillard hubs, Rigida 700C rims,Tecnova panaracer 700x25c tires, shimano 6 spd gears, Chang-star brakes, Vetta seat.What is its value?

AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Competition GS posted by: Tim on 4/11/2001 at 10:39:24 AM
Hello everyone. Another purchasing opportunity for me. A gentleman has a 1980 (approx) Raleigh Competition GS, with all Campagnolo Nuovo Gran Sport parts except Modolo brakes. It is immaculate. I already have a very nice early '70's Competition with lower level Suntour parts, and it is a dream to ride. But I have no idea of value on these lovely butted 531 bikes. Any thoughts? Thanks.

   Raleigh Competition GS posted by John E on 4/11/2001 at 11:56:34 AM
Pardon my ignorance, but is the Raleigh Competition like the Peugeot Competition of the same vintage, i.e., 531 main triangle only, or does it also have 531 forks and stays, like a Raleigh Pro or a Peugeot PX-10?

   RE:Raleigh Competition GS posted by Tim on 4/11/2001 at 2:13:28 PM
My old Competition is full butted 531 frame & stays (the Reynolds decals are on the frame & fork). I don't know about this new one though - good question.

   RE:RE:Raleigh Competition GS posted by Tim on 4/12/2001 at 12:04:07 AM
That should, of course, read 'newer'one. 1980 is not very new any more. Anyway, anyone know about Competitions of 1980 vintage, especially general value?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh Competition GS posted by Keith on 4/12/2001 at 6:56:50 AM
This is basically a guess, but I'd peg an immaculate 1980 Comp w/Nouvo Gran Sport at about $300. This realy rough estimate is a balance of the fact that its not a top-end model, but is still a very nice bike. The brakes should have been Gran Sport too -- I wonder why they were switched -- but they are of roughly equivalent value.

AGE / VALUE:   High Flange track hubs posted by: Warren on 4/10/2001 at 3:29:21 PM
I have the very good fortune to have a friend who is slowly getting out of the bike business...I'm often the recipient of various goodies. Usually he knows what he's giving me, this time he doaesn't. They ar e BIG high flange hubs...they appear to have an aluminum body but they also look very much like other vintage hubs. 3 inch diameter flanges, ten holes around the flange, the only marking is "Constrictor" on the block chain cog. Both front and rear axles are 3/8" and the 1/4 inch balls are exposed to the elements...not seals or room for them. There are lock nuts on the rear, none on the front and no room for them due to the axle length. Finally the spacing on the front hub is a full four inches...that is similar to modern standards but all of the older fixed/track frames I've seen are narrower then that.

They are similar to "Airlite" high flange hubs if you've ever seen them. So if anyone can speculate as to the age or use of these hubs I would appreciate it. Were vintage tandem hubs wider than the norm at the front fork? Hmmmnn

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   High Flange track hubs posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 4/10/2001 at 5:02:45 PM
If you can e-mail me a postal address, I can send you some pages out of one of my books covering this.
Well, you are getting into some goodies here. Especailly if these parts are coming to you in cute little origonal boxes. Chater-Lea, B.H (British Hub) Cyclo (British Cyclo) Phillips, Constrictor and a bunch of other companies made these hubs and if they are alloy then they are worth more. These were used in solo and tandem machines. I have a huge book covering all of these from 1954 it shows the hubs and various types and makes of cones and it is a wealth of information. Pick up as much of this as you can, I would.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   High Flange track hubs posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 4/10/2001 at 5:06:08 PM
N.O.S. Airlite hubs are not cheap or easy to get these days. You are not having to pay shipping charges either. What else is there? These are rare parts for vintage machines.

MISC:   "Unique Swiss combat unit to hang up its cycling shoes " posted by: kath on 4/10/2001 at 10:12:27 AM
Unique Swiss combat unit to hang up its cycling shoes

By Clare Nullis, Associated Press, 4/10/2001

ROMONT, Switzerland - The Swiss Army bicycle brigade, a proud and unique part of the Alpine nation's defense force, is set to follow the mounted cavalry and carrier pigeon service into history.

The demise of the world's last remaining combat cyclist regiment, along with a 2,800-member transport horse unit, is part of sweeping Defense Ministry reforms to modernize the militia.

''There's no more room for the cyclists. They're not protected enough,'' said Colonel Jean-Pierre Leuenberger, one of the commanders of the 3,000 men. ''Can you imagine a Swiss cyclist unit in the Gulf War?''

The cyclists were introduced in 1891, amid considerable opposition from the cavalry. They eventually became a backbone of the Swiss defense because they were swifter and more discreet than infantry and motorized units.

The Swiss Army bike became, like the Swiss Army knife, the stuff of legend, and the single-gear model used from 1905 until 1993 is now a collector's item.

The current seven-gear model has attachments for machine guns, bazookas, grenade-launchers and basic army kits, and can carry up to 330 pounds including the rider. The bike weighs 48 pounds. It can travel 37 miles per hour downhill, as demonstrated by the recruits who whiz through the central Swiss countryside, heedless of often slippery roads.

Leuenberger spent two decades with the bike brigade and heads a training school that provides 15 weeks of basic training for 250 recruits each year.

''They come in as civilians and they leave as real cyclists,'' Leuenberger declared with satisfaction.

Many Swiss resent military conscription, but the cyclists have traditionally shown a special spirit. Getting into the regiment is competitive because it is perfect training for potential world-class athletes: 1996 Olympic road race champion Pascal Richard passed through the ranks.

There has been only a muted reaction to the change so far, in contrast to an uproar over the scrapping of the carrier pigeon service in 1994 and the mounted cavalry in 1973.

But a few in the group hope for a reprieve. ''We ask ourselves why the cyclists should go,'' said Julian Wolffray, a chemistry laboratory assistant. ''We are quick and silent. And we don't need gas.''

   obsolescence posted by John E on 4/10/2001 at 12:33:11 PM
What troubles me most about this story is that it reinforces public opinion that bicycles have been rendered obsolete by cars, which is like saying that radio has been made obsolete by television. Herr Wolffray's cited comments are right-on.

   tyre tread braking! posted by John E on 4/12/2001 at 7:55:12 PM
CyclArt has one of the old-style Swiss Army bikes, which were produced UNCHANGED from 1905 until the 1980s. Its rod brakes push rubber shoes directly against the tyre tread. I guess that solves the rim sidewall wear problem!

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Decal protection posted by: Walter on 4/10/2001 at 6:32:14 AM
I just picked up a panel of reproduction decals for my Italian project which is finally complete. Basso frame and Campy SR of mid to late 80's vintage. Even though these adhesive backed decals are repros they are quality and look good on the frame (and I probably overpaid for them) so I'd like them to stay there as long as possible. Any ideas about a clear coat over them? The frame is done in an automotive paint called Sikkens which was recommended by a friend who paints race cars. It's an acrylic urethane. Maybe something to brush over the decals?

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Decal protection posted by Eric Amlie on 4/10/2001 at 6:52:06 AM
Try a hobby shop. I just picked up some stuff which is specifically for that. It comes in either a flat or gloss finish though the guy at the shop says the flat finish works better.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Decal protection posted by desmo on 4/10/2001 at 11:23:26 AM
To do it properly take the bare frame with the decals on back to the painter and have him shoot the whole frame save the chrome bits in a good clear coat. Decals should be applied in the paint shop as part of the painting process.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Decal protection posted by Walter on 4/10/2001 at 2:06:58 PM
Thanks for the advice guys. Kevin, I got your email too. The problem with having the painter shooting a clear coat is that I am the painter, with the advice and equipment of a friend. When I painted some months ago I had no idea I'd get decals. Sikkens is expensive enough with hardeners, etc to where I'm not thrilled with repeating much of the process. Also b/c of a motorcycle accident/injury my brakes and shifters are wired somewhat "differently." I got it right but I don't want to do it again. So I'll have to go the "touch-up" route. I should have thought of modelling supplies as I have built more han a few myself. Thanks.

Kevin, I'll be sure to take your advice.

MISC:   What Now? posted by: Wings on 4/10/2001 at 12:09:13 AM
Two unusual events today.
First, I passed a kid on a Huffy Bmx that was wandering all over the street. HE WAS ON A CELL PHONE!!!!!!!
Second, I passed .......... a stroller. But, this was not the ordinary stroller. It looked like a recumbent stroller because it was so long -- it was for triplets. Three little kids all lined up with each one sitting behind the one in front. Think of the bikes that family will have some day. maybe a tridem?

   RE:MISC:   What Now? posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 4/10/2001 at 5:13:41 PM
Ever see a small battery powered motor on a stroller that helped push the stroller along? Especially with two or more kids and the lunch basket underneath. You could have the little throttle on the part where you push. Do you think it would sell? The idea is to make it easier for the parent pushing the thing. No hot rod strollers with flames on the side or anything just a little help on hills. Kind of like a power lawnmower.

   RE:RE:MISC:   What Now? posted by Oscar on 4/10/2001 at 9:10:39 PM
Yes, EVERYONE has a cell phone. How many in the stroller?