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Archived: Vintage Lightweights

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Lycett saddle posted by: Mike Slater on 4/5/2001 at 6:54:00 PM
I just picked up a Lycett leather saddle, model L15ST, at a thrift shop. It has little or no use and the quality looks excellent. From what info I have been able to dig up, Brooks bought Lycett sometime in the 1920s.
Anybody know how long the Lycett name was used?
Any info on the Lycett history?
When I saw this saddle on a shelf with a $2.99 price tag on it I almost fell over. I love finding stuff like this!!!


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Lycett saddle posted by Eric Amlie on 4/6/2001 at 6:36:02 AM
I know that Lycetts were used on some Schwinn "lightweights" up to at least 1965. I was not aware that they were owned by Brooks. Nice find! I need one for my '63 Schwinn Sierra.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Continuing saga posted by: Keith on 4/5/2001 at 12:13:18 PM
As you may recall, I wrecked my primary commuting bike when a dog crossed my path a few weeks back. I was about to buy a Motobecane Grand Jubilee to replace it. But a week before the crash, I'd arranged to sell my Trek 520 to a friend who is just getting into cycling. Anyway, about a week ago, he brought the bike back to me, after his veteran cyclist father-in-law opined that the frame was too small. So, commuter bike problem solved, although the 520 is really blah vanilla compared to the Moto I was looking at. Well, looking at the Moto got the bug back into me. The asking price for the Grand Jubilee was probably fair, but it was set up with a rather dull low to mid-range Suntour V/Normandy groupo. Anyway, here comes a Moto Grand Record on ebay, all Campy NR plus Phil Wood hubs, and a gorgeous leather saddle, for just a little bit more. Buy it now. I did. WOO HOO!

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Continuing saga posted by Art on 4/5/2001 at 12:48:03 PM
Way to go, Keith!

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Nice buy! posted by Walter on 4/5/2001 at 6:01:19 PM
Good move. I had noticed that Moto and was thinking it'd make a real nice ride for someone. The Phil Wood upgrades ought to be really nice. Let us know after you get it set up.

   congrats! posted by John E on 4/5/2001 at 6:28:48 PM
Congratulations, Keith! You can probably make Sheldon drool by sending him an email about it.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS: Excellent! posted by Wings on 4/6/2001 at 12:05:03 AM
Super! I tried to see it now on Ebay but I am unable to get on, but I will check it out. Good going! I hope you enjoy it! Have you considered mounting a rack in vertical position on the front similar to what is on trains?
I bought a small Moto last week and it is all shined up and works good. Lower quality but a beautifull gold with blue trim. Great colors.

FOR SALE:   27" wheels for sale posted by: Robert on 4/5/2001 at 11:23:33 AM
27 x 1 wheels with Suntour hubs with quick releases.
Araya areo rims, clincher tires (IRC brand) . With freewheel
These very low miles per the original owner. He could not take the ride because of the high pressure tires. These are like new.
Said they came off of a Raleigh bike. $50.00 plus ship


VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Any Ideas? posted by: Wayne Morrison on 4/4/2001 at 7:08:13 PM
I have acquired a lightweight which I am turning into a decent riding
machine. Based on its hardware I would say it is from the early 1980's
and was not an inexpensive machine. The setup is all shimano, except
for the crankset which is Sugino. Its original colour was gray.
Now, here is the problem. Someone else started this refurb, and
knowingly or otherwise, pried off the riveted on name badge, so
I have no idea what the brand was. Some of the decals were still
on the bike, and I am assuming that the model name was Worldsport.
Any ideas as to who made this one, and what the brand name actually was?
I am looking forward to getting it on the road as I think it will go
quite well.
Thanks in advance,

   Japanese-made Schwinn posted by John E on 4/5/2001 at 7:16:33 AM
Your frame was made for Schwinn by a Japanese (Panasonic?) or a Taiwanese (Giant) manufacturer. Below you will find a post regarding two 1983 Giant-made Schwinns, which had G0383 and G0483 stamped into the frames. The verdict on these bikes is that they are quite good, though probably not collectible, particularly with the missing headbadge, etc.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Any Ideas? posted by Wayne Morrison on 4/5/2001 at 3:02:50 PM
Hi again,
I realzed after the fact that there were a number of things I forgot to
mention (duhh).
First, I am in Canada, and for the most part Schwinn bicycles in that
period never made it up here.
Second, on the bottom bracket are 3 different distinct set of numbers.
(I suppose any of them could be the serial number)
They are;
A contact here says it is possible this may be a Nishiki.
Any other thoughts on this one?
Thanks again,

   it's a Giant posted by John E on 4/5/2001 at 6:31:19 PM
I think it's a Giant, built in February, 1986 (hence the G0286). Nishiki serial numbers are of the form: KS78091 (from my 1971 American Eagle SemiPro).

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   CONI "Cycling" aka Cinelli Training Manual posted by: Kerth on 4/4/2001 at 11:48:31 AM
In the early 70s I bought a book at the LBS called "Cycling." It was an Italian book, large (about 11 x 17), with a blue cover and a stylized drawing of a bike racer on the cover. It contained detailed information on every aspect of bike racing -- training, diet, equipment, tactics, etc. It had bice pics of Cinelli Bivalent hubs and clipless pedals. Anyway, I loaned it to a guy in 1977, and have not seen one since. Some of the CR folks have informed me variously that these have sold on ebay for $250 - $350. Anyone have one who'd be willing to make a copy?

MISC:   Schwinn pair posted by: Fred on 4/4/2001 at 8:09:49 AM
A neighbor of mine recently found a pair of beautiful Schwinn World Tourists at a garage sale. The color is deep copper. I knew that he would leave them outside as is the practice here in Florida. It doesn't take long for a bike, especially an older bike, to rust badly if not stored properly. My feeling is that if an object has survived for years in good condition it is worthy of saving. After much thought, I decided I had to save them. I made him an offer of two good bikes in used condition along with a sum of money. He seemed receptive and told me he didn't care about bikes and didn't care what the make was just as long as it worked. He said that he had to talk to his wife and if she agreed, the bikes were mine. The next day I showed them the bikes I would give them. The wife didn't like the bike I had for her. He liked the one I had for him. They left saying that they would think about it. I figured that the deal was dead when they didn't show up for a week. I still had hopes and talked my wife into letting me give them her Huffy 3 speed that she uses for utility in the park. She reluctantly agreed. During that week it rained and when it doesn't rain there is the nightly condensation. That really bugged me to see the bikes get wet every night. Then after a week of disapointment, my neighbor came over and said we had a deal. I think they thought about how much more I would give them than he paid for them ($15 each).
It wasn't a matter of needing the bikes since I have another pair in good condition, but these are near mint and I am trying to upgrade my collection. The serial numbers are;the womens bike SN=G0383, the mans bike SN=G0483. I didn't find these numbers in the list posted in this site. I would apprediate some help here in determining the year of manufacture.

   manufacture date posted by John E on 4/4/2001 at 10:08:10 AM
Nice find, and good "salvage" work! I keep my younger son's beater bikes outdoors; all of the good stuff is indoors or at least in the garage.

To help some of the Schwinnophiles figure out the age of your bikes, please list some of the major components. I believe the World Tourists are rebadged Panasonics, and therefore probably use a Panasonic serial numbering scheme, instead of Schwinn's domestic series. (The numbers you listed sound suspiciously like dates, in either DDDY or MMYY format. Where were they on the bikes?) Also, if they have Schwinn headbadges, look for a 4-digit number on each. The first three digits are the day of the year (1-365), whereas the last is the final digit of the year. I know Schwinn used this system during the 1980s, and possibly the 1970s as well; I have a 1988 Schwinn mountain bike with "1438" on the badge.

   RE:MISC:   Schwinn pair posted by Keith on 4/4/2001 at 1:14:10 PM
I have the mens bike -- G0182. The "G" stands for Giant. Mine still has a sticker on one of the droputs that says "Schwinn app. made by Giant." I believe the "83" stands for 1983. Mine has the Shimano Positron gearing and free crank, and is a nice, confortable 10-speed with upright handlebars and matress saddle. Other than a few scratches, mine is like new. Coincidentally, it was a $15 garage sale buy.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Schwinn pair posted by jon on 4/8/2001 at 11:49:01 AM
Thanks for that info on Giant making Schwinns. Mine has lugged tubes, which seems a bit strange to me; my memory depicts the fillet/brazed tubes as a Schwinn marker?? Mine rides good enough for toolin' around town, but the cluster has some interesting anomalies.
There are flattened teeth periodically on the different gears, following a pattern that varies with the diameter of the gear. Also, some of the teeth have a slight
deflection which follows a pattern of some sort. Is this a
design feature or the result of a peculiarly generated defect?
Oh, try to service the rear hub axle. I have to remove the cluster to get grease in the race!! (needless to say, I just pushed a glob of waterproof grease with the
axle. The last time I tried to remove a cluster I busted my
knuckles and popped some spokes! Bad idea. :-))

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Rauler info posted by: Mark Poore on 4/4/2001 at 6:31:15 AM
Need some help. Last year I purchased a Rauler with the Campy Anniversary groupo. Having grown up in the mid 60’s and raced Italian bikes, mostly Cinelli, I found this frame most interesting. It has fancy chromed head and seat lugs, the like I have never seen on an Italian frame, except some 40’s frames. Was this frame made especially for the Anniversary groupo? Any help would be appreciated. I can e-mail pictures if that would help.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Rauler info posted by Mark Poore on 4/6/2001 at 5:46:04 AM
I have posted a photo of the head lugs of the Rauler on this site. Just type in Rauler and it should come up.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Mavic GEL 280 rims posted by: Jim Winkelman on 4/3/2001 at 8:26:27 PM
Hi anyone else love their Mavic GEL 280's?
I got hit and bent both front and back rims.
I tryed to pull the wheels apart and straighten the
rims but I can't get them true without making the spoke
tension way to high in spots. Is there a source?
I tryed the reflex rims but there just not the same.
I need a 28 hole and a 32 hole.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Clement Del Mondo tires posted by: Jim Winkelman on 4/3/2001 at 8:11:40 PM
I'm looking for some Clement Del Mondo Servizio Corse tires.
I built up a set of the wooden rims that performace sold a few
years ago for one of my road bikes. I bought 4 of the tires from
Oschners and then let them sit around for a while. I just moved
to Oregon and the chip seal is rough on the hands using 19mm
tires, even tubulers, so I gave them a try. Boy I could kick myself
for waiting so long to use them. Guess they knew what they were doing.
Long story short Clement went out of business and I'm out of luck
finding any more. Is there a source of NOS Clements or is there
someone making a tire the same size 700c X 32mm?

AGE / VALUE:   Used Road Machines posted by: Gary on 4/3/2001 at 5:03:18 PM
Bianchi Nuevo Allero nearly mint. All Bianchi. Team Green. 55cm ? 60cm Fuji Project, Valite. 60cm Motobecane. Various Fuji, Schwinn and lesser badge road machines, lugged frames of rideable quality.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Used Road Machines posted by Brian L. on 4/3/2001 at 7:45:44 PM
Are you looking to trade/swap? More description of the Bianchi and Motobecane (age, features, history, etc.) please.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Wanted: Chainrings posted by: Brian L. on 4/3/2001 at 8:19:00 AM
Interested in swapping for, or purchasing alloy chainrings in the following sizes: 50 or 49/110, 38/74. Would be interested in multiple copies for various projects.

   eBay posted by John E on 4/3/2001 at 1:24:36 PM
I have had pretty good luck finding "nonstandard" chainring sizes on eBay, and often one of the sellers there will indicate that he has additional merchandise available. Sheldon Brown also has a nice selection of reasonably-priced chainrings from QBC.

AGE / VALUE:   DIA-COMPE BRAKE LEVERS posted by: Tom on 4/2/2001 at 8:56:28 PM
I have a pair of DIA-COMPE brake levers and parts to adjust the brakes.Are these levers Weinmann? They came with a 60's Mercian.It also has Weinmann 610 Vainoueur 999 brakes. Would these be 60's vintage and what would be their value?
Thanks Tom

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   DIA-COMPE BRAKE LEVERS posted by Keith on 4/3/2001 at 6:25:46 AM
Dia compe is Japanese. Dia compe entered into an agreement with Weinmann whereby Weinmann used Dia-compe's design for those unsafe "safety levers" and in return Dia Compe used Weinmann designs, notably the 999 centerpull and the 500 sidepull. Dia compe sidepulls came on lots of low to mid-range 70s and early 80s bikes. They work pretty well, IMHO. Dia Compe also made a copy of the Campy Record and called it the Gran Compe, and these are really beautiful. Dia Compe stuff would not be considered valuable or collectable, although the Gran Compes are useful becuse they have a longer reach than standard Campy Record, so you can use them on bikes with huge clearances, like the P-15 Paramount.

   DIA-COMPE BRAKE LEVERS posted by John E on 4/3/2001 at 6:46:19 AM
I use DiaCompe and Weinmann parts interchangeably and have never noticed any significant difference in quality. For those of us with hands smaller than Sergei Rachmaninov's, DiaCompe and Weinmann brake handles, minus the suicide extension levers, are great.

   RE:DIA-COMPE BRAKE LEVERS posted by Oscar on 4/3/2001 at 6:06:17 PM
...that and the bodies are large enough to be ridden without hoods.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   DIA-COMPE BRAKE LEVERS posted by John Hawrylak on 4/4/2001 at 4:22:12 PM
If you have a pair with the safety levers you can remove them and either cut the excess shaft to be flush with the housing or replace the shaft with a normal one. Then you can either put hoods on them or at least ge your hands around them comfortably.

   brake hoods posted by John E on 4/4/2001 at 4:52:06 PM
Unable to find replacement hoods, I have resorted to wrapping some handlebar tape where the hoods would go. Yes, even the bare brake handles are probably the most comfortable ones ever made. By the way, I have a few spare pivots for anyone who is removing suicide extensions.

AGE / VALUE:   TRIKE/YR/AGE posted by: kacke on 4/1/2001 at 1:39:48 PM

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Repop catalogs? posted by: Walter on 4/1/2001 at 7:23:50 AM
There's a guy who reproduces and sales vintage bike catalogs. Anybody remember the link to his site?

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Repop catalogs? posted by Ian Kersey on 4/1/2001 at 11:16:49 AM
You're probably thinking of Chuck Schmidt, of Velo-Retro (www.velo-retro.com). He sells a great line of old catalog reproductions, plus some neat retro-tee shirts!


   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Repop catalogs? posted by Cal on 4/3/2001 at 5:15:38 AM
Just curious. How can he reproduce them? What about copyrights?

AGE / VALUE:   1960's 0r 70's Humber Road Bike posted by: Mike Szegedi (Boston,MA) on 3/31/2001 at 10:24:31 PM
I've recently converted a Humber Record Road Bike into a single speed/fixed gear commuter bike and I love it! It belonged to my cousin who found it in a basement somewhere in Connecticut while on a demolition job. My only problem is that I can't find much information about the exact age of this bike or what type of frame I have. The only markings I have found are the serial number on on the seat post lug (1361353) and there is an "X" stamped under the bottom bracket. Any information would be much appreciated. Thanks!


Mike Szegedi

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1960's 0r 70's Humber Road Bike posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 4/1/2001 at 12:09:45 PM
I would love to see a photo of this. We all would I think. Does this have the twin tube or Bifrubicated fork? These are cool bikes! I have a few of these and I have some Humber literature also. Please describe it more throughly for us. Color, size frame, e.t.c.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1960's 0r 70's Humber Road Bike posted by sam on 4/1/2001 at 3:36:02 PM
And what did you converet it from? Was it a 3-speed internal gear(brand?) or a derailer type(brand?number of speeds?)