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Archived: Vintage Lightweights

WANTED:   CCM 'Tour du Canada' posted by: C. Roberts on 5/16/2002 at 1:33:16 PM
Hi, Looking for CCM 'Tour du Canada'. Had it a long time ago but would like to replace it. Thanks.

   RE:WANTED:   CCM 'Tour du Canada' posted by Rob on 5/17/2002 at 5:32:36 PM
Very interesting, Steven...I had no idea CCM made any high end bikes...CCM's were ubiquitous (and utilitarian) during my British Columbia childhood such that most of us turned our noses up at them and looked for something better and lighter, but still moderately priced (European...and later Japanese)...Botecchia, Peugeot, Raleigh etc...

Can you tell us more about the "Tour du Canada"? Production numbers...? Any interesting websites...?

   RE:WANTED:   CCM 'Tour du Canada' posted by Rob on 5/17/2002 at 5:54:36 PM
A further note...there was one listed for sale 21 June 2001 for $95CDN..I imagine it's gone now: http://www.lesclassees.com/lesclassees/c.phtml?c=annonce&annonceid=91946275

   RE:WANTED:   CCM 'Tour du Canada' posted by Rob on 5/17/2002 at 1:51:42 AM
Give us a few more details if you can and I'll keep my eyes open...ie., how old?, drop bars?, likely components?, likely colors? Where will the words, "Tour du Canada" appear?...top tube, downtube, etc. I live in Vancouver...

   RE:RE:WANTED:   CCM 'Tour du Canada' posted by Steven on 5/17/2002 at 1:55:41 AM
Like the Paramounts from Schwinn, these were indeed lovely bikes. They were generally full Campagnolo with I believe Reynolds 531 tubing. I believe they were made up until the mid-70's when CCM was still doing well.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   pricing? posted by: elizabeth on 5/16/2002 at 12:09:11 PM
i have a blue woman's schwinn world sport i would like to sell. it was purchased 7/18/81! it looks like new and rides great,but i moved to maryland and this is not the bike for forest terrain. please, if anyone could help me with pricing i would appreciate it,elizabeth

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   pricing? posted by Gralyn on 5/16/2002 at 3:33:45 PM
I'm thinking $10 - $30

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   pricing? posted by Bryant on 5/17/2002 at 12:00:03 PM
Hey Elizabeth, keep the Schwinn and use it for the Cycle Across Maryland in July. It is being held on the Eastern Shore so 10-12 speed will be enough, no hills. Hope to see you there.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   pricing? posted by Jonathan on 5/21/2002 at 4:57:56 AM
Hello, Elizabeth. I have a 1984 Schwinn "world" that is made by Giant Bicycle of Taiwan for Schwinn. The bike's quality is way better than the "entry" level junk that are near $100.
At least I can adjust the components and they stay put for a couple hundred miles. Mine is a 12 speed that I commuted without a problem except the steel rims made wet-weather stops a bit scary.
I'd stick $50 on it and see what gives. Post an ad at the local "U", if you have one nearby. It is a nice bike for general service.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   legnano posted by: doug mclean on 5/15/2002 at 11:54:55 PM
does any one know where i might find a '80's legnano decal to use on bike restoration?

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   legnano posted by Stacey on 5/17/2002 at 3:16:13 PM

   RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   legnano posted by Oscar on 5/18/2002 at 4:39:13 AM
I just got that.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   legnano posted by mark on 5/16/2002 at 2:00:11 AM
Doug, Try www.Airglow.com ,recently i restored a bottecchia professional from the early 70s and they supplied all the decals. They paint bikes but also sell decals.Good luck.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   legnano posted by Ray on 5/16/2002 at 7:30:50 PM
Try listing the website for the decals again. www.Airglow.com is a web hosting site.

   RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   legnano posted by mark on 5/16/2002 at 11:29:27 PM
Hi Ray Punch in bicycle painting and you will find it . The phone number is 706 (678-4569) i think karen is the person to speak to . she is very helpfull. Mark.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   legnano posted by Stacey on 5/17/2002 at 1:08:54 AM
I think it's airglo... no "w".

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   legnano posted by Rob on 5/17/2002 at 1:36:26 AM
Jeez guys, :)...let's be precise...this is the link: www.airglowpainting.com

WANTED:   Here is a tough one! posted by: Ray on 5/15/2002 at 8:43:06 PM
I am looking for the wedge that pulls apart the brake arms on Special Edition Dura-Ace Brakes. I have a Pinarello TT bike that has this special aerodynamic brake calipers and one is missing this wedge and the cable mounting hardware. I am looking for any leads on purchasing one. This is not a standard Dura-Ace brake caliper and my guess is that it is early 90s.

   RE:WANTED:   Here is a tough one! posted by Steven on 5/15/2002 at 9:15:40 PM
These are likely Shimano Dura-ace AX brakes from the 80's. It should be quite easy to jury-rig something to work if you don't find the correct piece. It is also the type of part that Shimano might even be able to supply from Japan, try sending them an email

AGE / VALUE:   Porsche bicycle for Sale posted by: Steven on 5/15/2002 at 5:49:34 AM
While far from vintage, this bike will likely undeservedly sell for a high price to somebody who has more dollars than sense. The bike for the nouveau riche: A Porsche Bike R.


   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Porsche bicycle for Sale posted by Pete on 5/17/2002 at 1:12:50 PM
Aren't most of these bikes just accessories to hang off the back or top of the fancy SUV?

   RE:Bicycle/Car combinations posted by Cal on 5/17/2002 at 1:43:44 PM
Bicycles that come to mind - most are pre-1950:
Triumph (up into the 1970s)


   Bicycle-to-Car evolution posted by John E on 5/17/2002 at 4:00:33 PM
How about Steyr-Daimler-Puch (Graz, Austria) from guns and bicycles to guns and Daimler-Chrysler car parts and assemblies.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Porsche bicycle for Sale posted by Kevin K on 5/15/2002 at 8:15:04 PM
Hi Guys. My wife just returned from Germany. She saw a BMW bicycle while over there. OUCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kevin K

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Porsche bicycle for Sale posted by Oscar on 5/16/2002 at 6:46:22 PM
The bike kind of looks cool, but they would probably not sell any if it didn't have the Porsche name on it.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Porsche bicycle for Sale posted by Steven on 5/16/2002 at 7:00:42 PM
The new price was close to $4000!!! And somebody was foolsh enough to buy one?!

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Porsche bicycle for Sale posted by Oscar on 5/16/2002 at 8:41:09 PM
And trying to sell it.

   Ein Porsche mit Shimano achtzehn Gang Getriebe?! posted by John E on 5/16/2002 at 10:57:54 PM
I have never seen a Porsche with an 18-speed Japanese transmission before ...

   RE:Ein Porsche mit Shimano achtzehn Gang Getriebe?! posted by chris on 5/16/2002 at 11:26:12 PM
Just switch the signs, take the car!(kidding)
"Honey, did you sell the Porche?" "Yes dear, I did!"

   RE:Ein Porsche mit Shimano achtzehn Gang Getriebe?! posted by Kevin K on 5/16/2002 at 11:26:42 PM
VERY GOOD JOHN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've been married to the German here for 13 years now. do you think I've mastered it. NO !

   RE:RE:Ein Porsche mit Shimano achtzehn Gang Getriebe?! posted by Steven on 5/17/2002 at 1:47:27 AM
It has reached close to $650 now, with 2 days to go. I had $500 set aside to buy it and resell it here in the US if the price had not gone up. I am certain that you would be able to sell it for well over $1000 here. Heck, if somebody has over $100K to spend for what is more than likely a second or third car, $1K for a bike is a steal!

   Bicycle/Car combinations posted by Steven on 5/17/2002 at 2:02:03 AM
This thread brings up another interesting discussion. Today, many car brands are linking bicycles into their sales spiels: Saturn/Fuji, Volkswagen/Trek, Mercedes/Mercedes, BMW/BMW, Porsche/Porsche; how many bicycle companies successfully branched into other lines of business? I can think of Peugeot branching into cars. Bianchi that branched into cars before retreating. Harley-Davidson into motorcycles. Can anybody think of others?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Porsche bicycle for Sale posted by Colin on 5/18/2002 at 11:09:49 AM
Try these :- Humber, Rover, Morris, De Dion, Singer (UK), Peugeot, Lea Francis, B.S.A, Armstrong.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Porsche bicycle for Sale posted by Colin on 5/18/2002 at 11:11:27 AM
Try these :- Humber, Rover, Morris, De Dion, Singer (UK), Peugeot, Lea Francis, B.S.A, Armstrong AND Austro-Daimler.

AGE / VALUE:   Specialized/Suntour posted by: Mike Slater on 5/14/2002 at 5:00:10 PM
Were Suntour and Specialized ever partners in some way?

I ask because while cleaning a set of Specialized (at least the dust covers were Specialized) rims, the sealed bearings in both the front and rear were Suntour. There is no markings on the hubs.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Specialized/Suntour posted by Steven on 5/14/2002 at 6:43:42 PM
Specialized, like Vetta, started out as a marketing company and bicycle design and commissioning company. I don't think they own or have ever owned their own factory. As such, they farm out production to others. Suntour could easily have been one of their suppliers. It is actually quite likely they were (are?) There are actually very few component makers that own their own factories themselves. Even famed frame-builders often resort to subcontractors, including such people as Colnago.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Quick Release levers for diacomp brake #500 posted by: darryl on 5/14/2002 at 4:49:12 PM
Does anyone know where I can get a pair of quick release levers for Diacomp brake model 500 side pull? I need the lever and the small cylinder that slides up and down. I have the adjusting barrel and nut. These brakes are vintage 1985. Thanks.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Quick Release levers for diacomp brake #500 posted by Rob on 5/14/2002 at 5:55:30 PM
That shouldn't be too hard to find...if you live in a large enough city, there is probably a shop that specializes in old bikes...maybe a non-profit community type operation...the 500's seem common enough and I think the parts you are after were used on various other models...

And you could try looking at junked bikes in a 'bike graveyard' if you have one nearby...

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Quick Release levers for diacomp brake #500 posted by Keith on 5/15/2002 at 1:35:24 PM
Loose Screws might have them, but I agree that it would be better to try to find some cheap at a garage sale or by a dumpster. A LBS might actually have them too, though not likely unless it's an old one..

AGE / VALUE:   Hercules....when did they stop making them? posted by: Gralyn on 5/14/2002 at 3:39:45 PM
Does anybody know when they stopped making Hercules bikes? I bought one off e-bay....anticipating it's arrival any day now. I don't know how old it is. I'm not sure what I will do with it....but I was curious to know when they stopped making them. This on is a 10 speed - with 26 X 1 3/8 rims. I don't see that very often. The brakes look like regular touring handlbar brakes from a 3-speed mounted on racing handlebars.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Hercules....when did they stop making them? posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 5/14/2002 at 5:45:51 PM
1966 in there perhaps as late as 1968. Hercules was swallowed up by Raleigh and then Raleigh decided to concentrate on one brand, Raleigh. Hercules named bikes appeared in other parts of the world later than that. Sounds like somebody upgraded this 5 speed to a 10 speed by adding a front derailer. The brakes could have been changed too. Enjoy the bike!

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Hercules....when did they stop making them? posted by Gralyn on 5/14/2002 at 7:25:47 PM
Well, that sounds exciting to me - that it may date back at least to the 60's. And it's interesting what you say about the addition of the front deur....as the owner said it didn't work. I have another Hercules....but I have no idea of the date....but other than that....my oldest bike is 1975. I really would like to add some older lightweight bikes to my collection...kinda spread it out....rather than get a lot of bikes from the 80s....which are abundant and inexpensive.

AGE / VALUE:   Orange Schwinn Continental posted by: Elvis on 5/14/2002 at 12:59:20 PM
Hi all. I feel sorta stupid asking this, but any info on a Schwinn Continental? I picked one up last night in the rubbish. I have a few Stingrays but know little about the Schwinn road bikes, save for the fact that the Paramount was the high end and Varsity the bare-bones basic get-around. This bike is orange [same color as some stingrays and crates] with a wite headbadge with black lettering. On the seat tube is a logo with the words Schwinn and Chicago crossed in a circle, in white. Ugle handlebar stem shifters and safety brakes, but the bike has wide flange hubs with quick release front and rear, the main reason I picked it up. I haven't seen many Schwinn ten speeds with a quick release rear axle so I figured this must be a little better than the Varsity model. But it is so much heavier than my old Raliegh Record from the 80s! And it weighs a ton more than by PUCH from the 1970's... Any idea of this bike is worth keeping around? I was thinking about putting semi-knobby tires on it and using it as sortof a cyclecross bike to ride the woods with or just to school since its so darn heavy I figured it'd stand the bumps, and not be a big theft loss at college.

    Orange Schwinn Continental posted by John E on 5/14/2002 at 1:44:20 PM
Check the S/N (base of head tube, probably) to determine the date. First letter = month (A=Jan, skip I, M=Dec), second letter = year (A=1965, B=1966, skip I and O).

The Conti is a Varsity with a tubular fork, center-pull brakes, and QR wheels. They are starting to rise in value, but still fall into the $15-70 range, depending on condition. Weight is around 38-39lbs, depending on frame size. They make superb all-round beaters, and can accommodate 27 x 1-3/8" knobbies, if you can still find them.

   RE: Orange Schwinn Continental posted by Gralyn on 5/14/2002 at 3:37:00 PM
I had a continental - it weighed a ton! I sold it mainly because it was too tall a frame for me. I have a frame now - which I am working on....I have no idea what it was....it is a Schwinn....with 1020 tubing...but there are no decals or lettering to denote the model. From the date stamped on the head badge...it looks like 1979. It has high flange hubs. QR on the front hub. 5-speed cassette, center-pull brakes, really long "schwinn" shift levers mounted on the stem. The lower part of the forks is chrome. I don't know what it was....but just for fun - I'm going to paint it and make it into a fixed-gear...putting some semi-knobby tires on it. It is pretty heavy. The wheels which were on it - were warped beyond my capabilities. I have an old set of rims from a '79 Sport-a-bout I am going to put on it. It will be a fairly heave stripped down fixie - for riding wherever.

   RE:RE: Orange Schwinn Continental posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 5/14/2002 at 5:53:45 PM
While, dragging it up the stairs at the shop, I dropped it and I nearly slid down the stairs and then I got smart and said "Oh, the heck with it!
I love the color, love to remove the derailers and use em on other bikes. If it's free, I'll give it to a shop pally of mine. Not much else feeling with it.

   RE:RE:RE: Orange Schwinn Continental posted by Chris on 5/14/2002 at 5:55:11 PM
I have one, maybe two of those 27 whatever knobby tires and you can't find em anymore.

   RE:RE:RE:RE: Orange Schwinn Continental posted by Gralyn on 5/14/2002 at 6:27:37 PM
I didn't realize you couldn't find those tires anymore. The set I have looks to be in good shape. It will be an interesting bike when I finish it....just a "for fun" project. I don't even know what color I am going to paint it.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE: Orange Schwinn Continental posted by Chris on 5/15/2002 at 12:32:24 AM
Perhaps you can in your area. I haven't seen them around but that could be for some other reason. My mechanic didn't say why he couldn't get them. Keep looking.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE: Orange Schwinn Continental posted by Chris on 5/16/2002 at 11:27:59 PM
People love this bike, they rode it all over at college.

MISC:   New concept posted by: Ryan on 5/14/2002 at 2:28:38 AM
i am looking into designing a pedal car for adults. it will be based on a new 3 wheeled recumberent with front wheel steering and rear wheel drive. i am planning to make a fibreglass flaring kit in the style of a vintage car. any feedback on the flaring and 'big boys pedal car' concept would be much apreciated!

      New concept posted by John E on 5/14/2002 at 1:46:04 PM
May I suggest 2 wheels in front and one in the rear, for stability and drivetrain simplicity? Also, consider a suspension system at the two-wheel end, to allow leaning in turns.

   RE:MISC:   New concept posted by Keith on 5/14/2002 at 2:10:40 PM
There are numerous 3-wheel recumbent designs out there. One of the more celebrated is the Windcheetah, the initial design of which was by noted designer Mike Burrow, who also designed the record breaking Lotus track bike. The Windcheetah is available with optional carbon fiber fairings. At least go to the site (sorry I don't have address handy) and check it out.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Cracked Stem posted by: Rob on 5/14/2002 at 1:39:33 AM
Does anyone have anything to say about a cracked Cinelli stem? On the weekend I picked up a 20 year old Benotto Modolo 850, a bit rusty, but it looks lightly used and should clean up OK. (Still has what I assume are the original Hutchinson tires with little wear.) Campy derailleurs...Miche hubs, Modolo Flash brakes...Cinelli bars...but I was very surprised to find the Cinelli stem cracked at the bottom, below the handle bar bolt splined nut...This is actually the first cracked stem I've encountered...What could have caused this? Like I say the bike overall gives the impression of not having been over used...the stem seems to be original, stamped with '1E'on one side and an '80' or '90'on the other...it has a 'foil' Benotto decal on either side.

We had that interesting post a few weeks ago about broken cranks and stems...I like to here more about broken stems...a rather critical part, if I can risk some understatement!!!

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Cracked Stem posted by Warren on 5/14/2002 at 2:29:46 AM
Here's a guess...someone put an undesized handlebar in the cinelli stem....which takes the oversized bar (26.4) and tightened the bolt down so hard it cracked?

Stranger things have happened...measure the bars. I have to confess, I have used standard 26mm bars with Cinelli stems without problems.

   RE: Cracked Stem posted by "Elvis" on 5/14/2002 at 12:58:15 PM
That wouldn't surprise me. building up bikes from the 50's and 60's through the 80's, I've found the varying sizes to be a pain in the posterior, and ruinedmy own share of parts via amaturish efforts until I learned better the hard way! One of my bikes had a Cinelli stem; they're supposed to be high quality, and so I'm sure they're made of aluminum like most good stems. And aluminum tends to fracture, I'm told...

   Cracked Stem posted by John E on 5/14/2002 at 1:48:07 PM
Cracked stems are very common, and accommodation of wrong-sized handlebars is only one contributor.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Cracked Stem posted by Keith on 5/15/2002 at 5:19:57 PM
You guys may laugh -- but this is what I now do. Any vintage part that is load-bearing, and the failure of which may cause a serious crash, must be cleaned and then inspected before use. I use a 10x lupe for inspection. It may not help to find latent damage, but hairline cracks are distinguishible from surface scratches at 10x.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   3 speed Who made it? posted by: Phil Randall on 5/13/2002 at 11:29:48 PM
Yesterday I picked up a 3 speed bicycle with a Firestone headbadge. It also says Volks-cycle and vagabond in smaller letters. I don't think that it is English made and it has a Shimano 3 speed hub. I was just curious if anyone might know what company manufactured it. So anyone ever hear of a bike like this?

MISC:   Framebuilder's posted by: Dan on 5/13/2002 at 10:06:25 PM
Several month's back I posted on this site announcing I was to begin building frame's with a then retired now working master builder from 30yrs. ago. His frame's were called Langhy's and several of you remembered his work from around that time in the Chicagoland area. We are on our way to building our first frames after Mr. Langhy retool's his jig for the newer larger tube deminsion's. I'm recovering at the moment from knee surgery I had last week and will be sidelined for a while from helping him. Mr. Langhy asked how good was my eyesight, I said perfect he then said you sit on my couch and you watch, no rest for the wicked. Anyone else remember Langhy Racing frame's, at 82 this man still enjoys hearing about his frame's and excited about the op to work up these new lug's and tubes. " Their beautiful" he say's in his Hungarian accent.

   RE:MISC:   Framebuilder's posted by Oscar on 5/14/2002 at 1:31:06 AM
Dan - are you going to Bike the Drive on your Langhy?

   RE:MISC:   Framebuilder's posted by Oscar on 5/14/2002 at 1:31:43 AM
Dan - are you going to Bike the Drive on your Langhy?

   RE:RE:MISC:   Framebuilder's posted by Oscar on 5/14/2002 at 1:32:30 AM
Refreshing, ain't it?

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Framebuilder's posted by Dan on 5/14/2002 at 4:22:49 AM
Nah - if it's not your post's, it has to be my pain medication. I loved you on Seseme Street, lol Dan.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Framebuilder's posted by Dan on 5/14/2002 at 4:29:18 AM
You mean the LSD ?

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Framebuilder's posted by Oscar on 5/14/2002 at 1:52:54 PM
Thanks, I've been sprucing up the garbage can. And yes, I was referring to Bike the LSD on 6/9.

Not to make trash of your post. I haven't heard of the framebuilder, but I think it's awesome-cool that the man has rejigged the jig and is about to fire up the torch. If you can find a place to post a photo of one of his older bikes, please do so?

Where is he located?

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Framebuilder's posted by Dan on 5/14/2002 at 5:15:28 PM
I moved from Chicagoland in '73 to Southern Illinois and it's unlikely I'll do the ride on 6/9. Mr. Langhy worked for Schwinn in the '60's before he re-started his frame building business ( He trained as a framebuilder in Budapest, Hungary as a teenager at a cycle work's). A Chicago area racing club had Mr. Langhy build their team bike's during the late '60's or mid-'70's. I would like to hear from a former racer who may have owned one of these frame's. Several reader's from my post month's back did recall seeing or hearing of Langhy Special's around that time. I will try to post a photo on a section of Classic Redevous(?), I think they have a spot for American Framebuilder's of the past to be recognized. It's been less than a week since I had re-constructive knee surgery, when I called Mr. Langhy yesterday it sound's as if he has been busy re-jigging, mitering and prepping while I've been away. I hope I can recover soon, or at least in time to buff out the paint. I'll try not to turn this site into my own personal webpage, I just wanted to update my past post for those who sent me encouragement in the past. Thank's, Dan

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Framebuilder's posted by Oscar on 5/14/2002 at 7:06:00 PM
Keep the news coming as this is a very cool event happening. It's important for us to know whenever an old master (or anyone) wants to handbuild a lugged frame.

Elevate the knee and ice it as recommended. Best of luck.

AGE / VALUE:   Altenburg brakes posted by: Mike Slater on 5/13/2002 at 3:23:08 AM
Anyone heard of Altenburger brakes?? They are a centerpull design with the quick release located in the levers. They are on a pristine Raleigh Record I picked up. Any demand for the Record??

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Altenburg brakes posted by wes on 5/13/2002 at 3:32:47 AM
are you wanting to sell
thanks wes

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Altenburg brakes posted by Mike Slater on 5/13/2002 at 3:59:15 PM
Not sure Wes. Havn't had a chance to really look the bike over yet. The Wright leather seat, Nevar steel crank and the brakes are what attracted me to this bike originally. Seems rather portly - but pretty. Do you collect these?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Altenburg brakes posted by Walter on 5/13/2002 at 4:27:04 PM
I just finished putting together a Belgian made bike from the early '70s for my father in law with those brakes. Levers are as you describe also. I put on some Kool Stop pads and they seem to be decent brakes.

As I recall some Raleighs were Dutch made so that may explain their presence.

I was amused at the labelling on the brakes. On the "front" caliper arm where Weinman would have the model # e.g, 999 the Altenburgers just say "Centrepull." Just in case a mechanic wasn't sure, perhaps. :)

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Altenburg brakes posted by Mike Slater on 5/13/2002 at 4:32:09 PM
The center of these brakes have a red area that says Altenburger in fancy script. The levers have a red button that you push in and a small, red, sliding thumb lever that releases the button. Nice looking. I'll check, but I am pretty sure that this bike has a made in england sticker on it.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Altenburg brakes posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 5/13/2002 at 8:29:53 PM
At one point, G.B. merged with Altenburger becoming G.B. Altenburger.
I have a few pairs of the sidepull brakes. These are Synchron brakes

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Altenburg brakes posted by wes on 5/13/2002 at 10:24:23 PM
i collect all the raleighs made in england i can afford
ill check if i have those brakes for you
thanks wes

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Altenburg brakes posted by Oscar on 5/13/2002 at 10:32:29 PM
I passed up on an Austrian three-speed in an alley outside of a church. I was going to work and had no tools to stash the bike in my trunk. By the time I came back an hour and a half later on the way to an appointment (with the wrench from my desk), the bike was gone. The only thing I wanted from the bike were the Altenberg sidepulls with the elegant script. I think the guy who beat me to it was the garbageman, too.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Altenburg brakes posted by wes on 5/13/2002 at 10:47:17 PM
mike i do have two of these bikes and both are english made
and both have the brakes you need
let me know im into tradeing alot
thanks wes

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Altenburg brakes posted by Mike Slater on 5/14/2002 at 1:31:10 AM
On closer inspection - Christopher Robin is correct. These are sidepull Synchron calipers. My mistake.

Gee- I thought dual pivot sidepulls were a recent development. These sure look like DP sidepuls!

     Altenburg brakes posted by John E on 5/14/2002 at 1:51:55 PM
I believe the Altenburg Synchron was one of the first attempts at a self-centering sidepull brake.

Today's mechanical tip: Periodic lubrication of the sliding contact points between the return spring and the caliper arms will improve the function, including centering, of your single-pivot sidepulls. In my dry climate, I use White Lightning for this.

   RE:  Altenburg brakes posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 5/14/2002 at 5:48:04 PM
The aluminum piece inside where it slides against itself has plastic coverings and mine chipped off because these are old and it still works great!

WANTED:   raleigh fender posted by: wes on 5/13/2002 at 2:13:47 AM
looking for front fender for a raleigh sprite help please
this bike looks like it has been garage kept but missing front fender
thanks wes