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Archived: Vintage Lightweights

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   ALERT! ALERT! Italian book "Bicycles" posted by: Keith on 9/30/2002 at 12:55:15 PM
Listen up! This weekend I found the most beautiful book -- you all need to find it. It's called "Bicycles." It's part of a series of books originating in Italy called "Bella Cosa" (meaning beautful object or thing -- check me on this Steven -- shoot you probably know the folks who made it!). I aleady have the volume on fountain pens. Printed in Hong Kong -- very well done -- not very large -- about 6" x 8," good flexible sewn binding (like a nice silk tubie), heavy stock, high quality photography and printing. Parallel text English and Italian. Anyway, it features European bikes (mostly Italian) like the ones we dream of -- 1901 Bianchi made by Mr. B himself. 1924 beam racing bike -- just like a Softride of today. 1949 Bianchi "Tour de France" model. In short,the high-end and unusual bicycles (like military models) from Italy, France, Germany and England from 1800s to 1990s. Get this book! I found it at a local Half Price book store for FIVE DOLLARS.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   ALERT! ALERT! Italian book posted by Steven on 10/3/2002 at 5:51:46 AM
It is most definitely the same book. I would love to get the bike depicted on page 26-27. My version was printed in 1991 (although the original was seemingly prepared in 1987)

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   ALERT! ALERT! Italian book posted by Steven on 10/2/2002 at 5:23:03 PM

Sorry about not replying earlier. Is this the 140 page red book? It is indeed a good book and for $5 you can't go wrong. Mine is however printed in Italy. The ISBN number is: 88-7143-080-8. If you quote the ISBN number other people can find it too.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   ALERT! ALERT! Italian book posted by Keith on 10/2/2002 at 8:23:38 PM
My book is not red, rather it has a white cover with a photo of a firefigher's bicycle on the front. The IBSN on this book is: 0-8118-0750-9. The publisher is Chronicle Books. It has 144 pages. The first bicycle depicted is an 18th century "Celerifere." The last is a red Colnago Ferrari with an 8-speed bottom bracket gear. I wonder if Chronicle produced its own version of the book, using the marerial from the original, under a licence from the Italian originator.

MISC:   Added 3rd chainring posted by: Gralyn on 9/30/2002 at 1:53:21 AM
I added a 3rd chainring to my Schwinn Traveler all-purpose rider (the one I take camping, etc.). It's a very light bike - a very good rider - but I have very little money in at at all. I added a 26 t. The front deur had plenty of travel to easily accomodate. The only problem....and I anticipated it would be a problem - is the rear deur...and the tension on the chain. When I'm on the 26t in front...and on 1st and 2nd gears on rear - it's no problem...but if I go to 3rd through 6th - it really doesn't work. I remembered a post about this before - and so I'm thinking - I will have to get a rear deur from a mountain bike. I checked through some boxes of parts I have...and I found a deur where the distance between the 2 little wheels is about an inch longer than on most of the other bikes. I think I will put this on on - and see how it works. Any advice will be appreciated. Thanks.

   RE:MISC:   Added 3rd chainring posted by Keith on 9/30/2002 at 1:42:26 PM
As John mentioned before, sometimes you can get away with a standard cage rear derailleur with a triple - it depends on the range of gears and the derailleur. Anyway, the longer cage is exactly what you're after. Whan you set it up, be sure to check the following -- with the chain on the smallest cog in the back and the smallest chainring on the front (your 26), there should be at least some tension on the chain, i.e., enough to keep it from sagging or sluttering between the rear cog and the tensioner wheel (lower pulley) of the rear derailleur. Then, work up to the largest on the front and the largest on the back. Do it slowly, because if the chain is too short for some reason, you can damage the rear derailleur. If you can't do both the smallest with the rear-smallest front AND the largest rear with the largest front, then your rear derailluer doesn't wrap enough chain. Sometimes you have to add a link or two of chain to get it just right. Test it BEFORE you ride. A friend of mine didn't and his rear deraileur and spokes on the rear wheel were trashed when he shifted into largest front largest back. Not a gear you'll often use -- it's extreme chain crossing -- but you don't want it to be a hazard if you do.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Added 3rd chainring posted by Gralyn on 9/30/2002 at 3:07:33 PM
I'm going to put on the one with the longer cage - then run it through the gears - to see if it works. Hopefully, it will be long enough to give me enough tension - but if it's not - I will have to fine a long cage - probably from a mtn bike....and then will probably have to add a couple of links to the chain. I will just have to play around with it.

   RE:MISC:   Added 3rd chainring posted by Keith on 9/30/2002 at 4:56:54 PM
Nashbar has Deore rear Ds on sale -- http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=83&subcategory=1039&brand=&sku=4298&storetype=&estoreid= While you're at it buy a new chain -- trust me on this. Z-chains are available for under $10.

AGE / VALUE:   Lotus 3000 R Pro Series posted by: Gralyn on 9/29/2002 at 5:12:47 AM
I had posted a few days ago about spotting a beautiful Lotus in a thrift store. But unfortunately, it was sold. Well, I stopped by a couple days later....it was there. The note on it about it being sold - was gone. It now had a price sticker on it. It was really more than I usually spend on thrift store bikes - but judging the condition - and the quality of bike it seemed to be - I thought it was well worth it. And after getting it home - I think it's going to be my favorite road-rider.

Lotus 3000R Pro Series
Cro-Mo fork
Tange Triple Butted Cr-Mo Frame (21")
Bluish - green color....with Lotus logo
Viscount Ultra Gel saddle
Alloy seat post
7-speed cassette
Sun Tour Blaze components:
Accushift Deur
Accushift Shifters
Brakes (aero-style)
700 X 25 C wheels and tires
presta valves
Weinmann 2115 alloy wheels
Hshinlung bars
Dia-Compe hoods
K K hubs
QR front and rear

I added compagnolo toe clips
I swapped the 42t chainring for a 39t for lower gearing.

It's a really great riding bike.

Does anyone know what this bike would have sold for new?

Oh, one thing....when I bought it....the bottom bracket was loose. I thought....probably just needs tightening. But - upon investigation....the bearings were like 1/2 gone....like each bearing was like a 1/2 ball....they had worn away ....I had never seen that happen before....it's like they weren't heat treated or something. I replaced the bearings....and it's fine now.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Lotus 3000 R Pro Series posted by andrus on 9/30/2002 at 9:05:53 PM
sounds like a great find.

I've got a Lotus, the head badge how can I describe it, a golden lotus with the company's name written across it.

Mind saying what yours appears like if there are two companies? thx.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Lotus 3000 R Pro Series posted by Keith on 10/2/2002 at 5:28:17 PM
I have a Lotus Competition c. 1983 -- full Campy NR, Columbus tubing -- very nice. The owner of a LBS told me when he started in the business, this model was the first one he sold -- for $250. I suspect that is because, at the time, Nouvo Record stuff was considered by many to be obsolete. Yours sound like a later model due to the Accushift. My shot in the dark would be that it was $250 - $300 new in the late 1980s.

AGE / VALUE:   Girls Schwinn posted by: Mike on 9/29/2002 at 1:11:35 AM
I found a girls schwinn bicycle in a relatives basement and I was hoping to find out if it is worth restoring. The bike is a two tone brown and white, flared fenders in good shape,original seat and grips. Thanks for any help.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Girls Schwinn posted by Oscar on 9/29/2002 at 3:42:47 AM
It sounds like it's worth restoring if it's complete and the paint is nice. A brown/white paint scheme sounds like it's from the late 50's and recalls a 1957 Spitfire I once stupidly passed up for $50.

You can read the serial number from the left rear dropout, where the rear wheel bolts to the frame. You can decode the date of the serial number on the serial number elsewhere on this site.

AGE / VALUE:   Nishiki internat'l posted by: Elvis on 9/28/2002 at 2:13:55 PM
Hi all. Just picked up a Nishiki international. Dark red [almost maroon], with Dia-comp G sidepulls and Siguno cranx... the crank arms are the same color in the middle as the bike, as are the flutes on the Alum. LaPrade seatpost. It's only got five gears but the Araya rims are thinner than most and the tread on the tires is almost new.
I have heard of Nishiki but never owned one. Any idea on where the International sat in the line?
P.S.> the bike came w/ a frame pump attatched via bolt-ons. The Pump is a nice old Zephal -- looks new but no air comes out. Any idea on how to fix those things?
Any info on either question appreciated, thanks.

   Nishiki internat'l posted by John E on 9/28/2002 at 3:15:50 PM
1) The Kokusai or International was typically American Eagle/Nishiki's answer to the Peugeot PR-10/PK-10, with a butted moly steel (CrMo in this case) main triangle. Above it were the Semi-Pro/Competition and the full CrMo Road Compe. The 5-speed cluster says pre-1980, whereas the sidepulls say post-1975. Although a bit heavy by today's standards, it should be a fine commuting, recreational, or touring bike. By the late 1970s, Kawamura was building resilient, lively frames, unlike my mushy/dead-feeling 1971 Semi-Pro.
2) If you are lucky, the pump diaphragm is merely dried out and unable to make a decent air seal with the inner surface of the tube. Unscrew the cap through which the plunger goes, pull the plunger all the way out, pack some lithium grease around the circumference of the diaphragm, and reassemble the pump.

   RE:Nishiki internat'l posted by Elvis on 10/1/2002 at 5:36:00 AM
Thanks! The bike rides well enough, and seems to have decent geometry; there's very little space betweent he rear tire and the seat tube [it was touching the front deur. mechanism when I got it] and it handles turns good. Makes a nice ride for days I don't want to take me new bike out.

AGE / VALUE:   Centurion Accord?? posted by: Bryant on 9/27/2002 at 10:38:43 PM
Checked out the Thrift shop today on the way back from work. Not much on the sales floor so I peeked in the back to see what they were getting ready. I saw two bikes that intrigued me. One was red, down tube shifters, non aero brakes with hoods, looked promising but I couldn't tell the make. The other one was a Silver Centurion Accord. Alloy wheels, non aero brakes with hoods and suicide levers, couldn't tell much else. Centurion was clear on the downtube, and it looked like Accord on the top. Anyone have any insights on this bike?? The road bikes normally go for about $20 here. Worth it for the alloy wheels alone. I've got to get someone to let me back there. There are tons of bikes and I'm sure they would be glad to sell them quickly.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn Super Sport : chrome stays? posted by: rpet on 9/27/2002 at 9:32:57 PM
Did any 70s Schwinn Super Sports have chrome stays? I'm trying to tell from a crummy online image if a supposed Super Sport is actually a Paramount.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Schwinn Super Sport : chrome stays? posted by Oscar on 9/27/2002 at 10:00:43 PM
Earlier Super Sports had chrome forks and stays. I don't know when they knocked off the chrome. Sheldon Brown's site (www.harriscyclery.com) has a long artical about Brazed Schwinns, and I think it pegs the date of changes to the SS.

   RE:Schwinn Super Sport : chrome stays? posted by Eric Amlie on 9/30/2002 at 5:34:55 AM
Speaking off the top of my head without consulting the catalogs (which I don't have access to right now) I don't remember any of the early Super Sports having chrome tipped rear stays. The '62 and '63 Superiors had them though. Other distinctions between the Paramounts and the Super Sports/Superiors (at least the sixties/seventies vintage ones) are the lugged frame on the Paramount the the tops of the seat stays. The fillet brazed Super Sports and Superiors had a bullet shape to the top of the stays, the Paramount had sort of a flattened "bologny cut" to the outside top of the stays.

   Whoops! posted by Oscar@freewheeling.com on 9/30/2002 at 10:33:14 PM
Chrome forks until 1971. Painted stays.

AGE / VALUE:   1959 ARMSTRONG VINTAGE ROAD BIKE posted by: Greg Pschaida on 9/27/2002 at 9:02:32 PM
I have just acquired a 1959 8 speed Armstrong Road bike. 23 inch frame. Campy Gran sport, Brooks Seat, Looks like Nervex Feature cut lugs... Similar to early Raleigh Super Course and Internationals of later vintage. Sheldon Brown Says this is a cheap Raleigh on his site... I think he's referring to the 3 speed offerings? Anyone have any idea what this is worth. The almost completely gone 531 sticker is 531 at an angle. May be Double Butted throughout. Has 27 inch Allow Wheels. This Bike has been in the garage forever. Frame is fairly well preserved. Needs complet Restore. I like the zert fitting on the bottom of the bottom bracked. ANYONE WITH ANY FURTHER INFO WOULD BE APPRECIATED?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1959 ARMSTRONG VINTAGE ROAD BIKE posted by Keith on 9/30/2002 at 8:17:57 PM
Armstrong is among the companies Raleigh Industries bought out beginning in about 1960, I believe. Others include Dunelt and Hercules, both of which were significant brands before the buyout. Raleigh then used the names of these companies to provide a kind of artificial distinction in its ubiquitous Sports-style 3-speeds. This was done so that the hardware store down the block from the bike shop could sell a different line of bikes. The Armstrong 3-speeds were the lower end, but by no means junk -- they were solid, functional bikes. Nevertheless, it sounds like your Armstrong may well be pre-buyout. In any event, Sheldon Brown's comment that Armstrong was lower end, although 100% correct, is limited to the 3-speed models, and has no application whatsoever to the fine club bike you describe.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   1959 ARMSTRONG VINTAGE ROAD BIKE posted by Greg Pschaida on 10/1/2002 at 12:18:47 AM
Thank you for your reply on the Armstrong! Further inspection of the Armstrong Revealed what's left of a Ted Ernst Manhattan Beach Bicycle Supermart sticker. A call to Ted Revealed That yes indeed that there was another company before the merger. These Armsrong bicycles were sold by Ted's shop among others in the Southbay circa 1957 through 1962. Two Piece Campy hubs... Sheldon claims that the four speed rear clusters would place the manufacture of this bike before 1959... Ted claims they still sold the four speed rear clusters into the very early sixties. The frame looks very similar to the Raleigh Internationals sold several years later. I'm probably going to put this one on Ebay. Other items of interest is the Steel Cottered Crank with TA alloy chainrings.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   1959 ARMSTRONG VINTAGE ROAD BIKE posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 10/3/2002 at 12:00:07 AM
E- mail me your postal address and I'll mail you a copy of the information sheet I have on this particular model bike.

MISC:   Selling your bikes posted by: Gralyn on 9/27/2002 at 12:49:27 PM
I recalled some discussion a while back...I quoted it below...about bike stores allowing people to sell their bikes in their store. I have been thinking about that. I believe I am up to about 30 bikes again...and it's time to get rid of some of them. I thought about several options: 1)advertising in a local sale paper. 2)listing on e-bay. 3)putting them in an e-bay store. 4)having a yard sale - and putting a couple bikes out. 5)selling them at a bike store.

In the local (state-wide) sale paper...I have only sold one bike...and had 2 calls. I can't do the e-bay thing at the moment - because my digital camera is broken. Same goes for the e-bay store. It's been too rainy for yard sales. Maybe the bike store thing is worth a shot. I know of a couple of bike stores that really just don't have the floor space available. But, I do know of 2 or 3 others that have lots of available floor space. Perhaps I should stop by and inquire.

What are your thoughts on the best way to sell a bike? I want to get the most for them I can....and I don't want to give them away either....but I would like to sell them at a fair and reasonable price.

"Hi Ian. On the subject of bike stores a LBS near me has just started a neat service: They allow people to bring in high quality bikes and display them for sale. This service is free. The owner told me it usually serves two purposes. The guy selling the bike has a good chance the bike will sell quickly and in turn then the person that sold their bike will buy one of his ( the shop owners )new ones. Ian I've seen some really nice bikes in this store. Most of them are high end bikes from Europe and rarely have I seen an asking price over $200. The Fuji is a nice piece I'm sure but basically $300 is alot of bucks. A full tilt, near mint, Campy equipted 1973 Paramount just sold here ( in town )for $500. Just my opinion: Go in with cash in hand. People have a hard time watching cash walk away. You might do very well in this manner of purchasing the Fuji for a lot less. Good luck, Kevin K"

   RE:MISC:   Selling your bikes posted by Stacey on 9/27/2002 at 9:32:14 PM
Every method has it's positives and negatives, Gralyn. My favorite is the world market of eBay. Some nice clear pictures and an honest, detailed description will do wonders for attracting bidders. So, get a new camera. A $90 Relysis/Dimera off eBay does wonders!

I can understand your apprehension to giving your rides away... no one wants to do that. The way I deal with that is to start all my bikes at $9.95 and put a reasonable reserve on it. I also use the Buy-It-Now option, set at my reserve plus a little bit (for those people who must have instant gratification).

The up-side here is that if the bids don't meet your reserve, you can always re-list or negoiate a deal with the high bider. Down-side is boxing and shipping. Though I've found that the ROI is much much higher and faster with eBay than with any other market I've found.

Where else can you take a $5 bike after a quick bath and polish and turn it in to $200 in less than 24 hours? (Your results may vary) :-)

Whatever you decide to to, I wish you the best of success!

   RE:RE:MISC:   Selling your bikes posted by Clyde on 9/28/2002 at 1:34:23 AM
LBS did sell a few of my bikes on consignment. It usually was of mutual benefit - I didn't have to hassle with ads, showing the bikes, or dealing with checks and the LBS usually got a lock sale or a seat upgrade to boot. But now citing liability concerns, they discontinued that practice. So I recently I placed a couple of flyers with photos at the local college campus and sold three bikes in a week to incoming students at the start of the semester.

Good luck on thinning your bike inventory. Usually after a sale of one bike, I find two that would be so easy to repair that I can't past them up (especially if free!)

   RE:MISC:   Selling your bikes posted by Ri~chard on 9/29/2002 at 4:17:41 AM
What do ya got and how much? List them here!

AGE / VALUE:   Huffy Sportsman made in England posted by: Tami on 9/27/2002 at 4:20:36 AM
Does anyone know what the value is of a Huffy Sportsman 3spd. bike? I don't know the year, but it says Made in England on it. It's in really good shape.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Huffy Sportsman made in England posted by Chris on 9/27/2002 at 6:59:38 PM
no more that $50.00 tops. just my opinion.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Huffy Sportsman made in England posted by FrankBoss on 9/28/2002 at 8:41:33 PM
I have one too.
Great little bike. Clean and smooth to ride.
I think they are every bit as good as the other Raleighs.
But the Huffy Name is hard to shake when selling a bike.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Huffy Sportsman made in England posted by FrankBoss on 9/28/2002 at 8:42:48 PM
I have one too.
Great little bike. Clean and smooth to ride.
I think they are every bit as good as the other Raleighs.
But the Huffy Name is hard to shake when selling a bike.


AGE / VALUE:   Super Course Carlton, Nottingham Eng posted by: Elvis on 9/27/2002 at 3:50:13 AM
Hi all. I am going to buy a Raliegh Super Course. But I won't have it in front of me til Sat. Moring. Want a head start on info. I don't know the serial number but its all a brownish copper color with this white lettering "Super Course" at front of the frame. 531 tubing decal and a Carlton sticker on seat tube. Lugs look like little 3-leaf clovers. The chain and seat stays are chromed near the r. drop outs and upwards for a couple inches and the bike has Weinmann centerpulls, Simplex levers and shifter, and GB stem. cottered cranks. No rust or dents.
Any idea on the age [or value]? Or where super course sits in the Raliegh line? I know it's above record and Grand Prix but I'm no expert.

    Super Course posted by John E on 9/27/2002 at 2:23:04 PM
The Super Course, which retailed for about $125 in 1971, was the lowest-level Raleigh with Reynolds 531 tubing. Its components were comparable to those of the less-expensive, plain carbon steel Peugeot UO-8, although I am pretty sure the Super Course did have aluminum rims, which would also make it a lighter-weight alternative to the fillet brazed CrMoSchwinn Super Sport of the same vintage and price.

   RE: Super Course posted by humberchristopher28@hotmail.com on 9/27/2002 at 6:54:33 PM
These two of mine narrowly escape being thrown out every time the trash truck is scheduled to come by. Tiny frame, brown, Carlton fork, Carlton sticker, chrome ends. Two more other ugly Raleigh's one green and one red. These are one step above the Super Course or may be they are Super Courses, I forget. They keep getting built up and then have their parts robbed back off them to go on other projects.
It's a good bike but myself, I have two vintage R.R.A.'s and so now these don't get me excited anymore. The green one was bought in a weak moment at last years bike swap. I was dizzy and tired and hungry and in a weak moment, for the derailer stuff, I bought it cheap. Now I'm stuck with it.

   RE:RE: Super Course posted by Chris on 9/27/2002 at 6:58:27 PM
Keep an eye out for that alloy 'later day' G.B. stem because these corode (get wacked out with age) and the end piece breaks off and that is not a good thing to have happen on your bike's handlebars.

   old stems posted by John E on 9/28/2002 at 3:20:52 PM
I concur with Chris regarding old G.B. (or any other) stems. This is why my 1959 Capo sports an anachronistic 1990 Specialized stem instead of its original G.B.

   RE:old stems posted by Elvis on 10/1/2002 at 5:42:03 AM
Thanks all... the bike isn't in great shape as I thought, but it has nice lugs and a solid frame. I dig the stronglight cranks; i don't normally like cottered cranks but these are cool and still have all the chrome! The stem? Looks like it'll hold together, but that's good to know. Never really thought about what a beating those little pieces of aluminum must take over years of riding. Thanks for the warning!

AGE / VALUE:   Raliegh Superbe posted by: Elvis on 9/27/2002 at 3:48:20 AM
Hi all. Picked up a Raliegh Superbe. Looks like your standard 3-speed roadster except for the drop bars. Any idea if the bars are orig. or if there's a value in this bike?

AGE / VALUE:   Pierce Arrow track bike posted by: Mike S. on 9/26/2002 at 7:12:51 PM
I have a Pierce Arrow track bike, 1/2" pitch chain and gears, no brakes, has the Pierce Arrow badge on the head and part of the original frame decals. I bought in a bike store in Brooklyn NY in the 1960's - the owner thought it dated from the 1920's. I'm interested in pinning down its age, model and perhaps worth. I rode it all over NYC for several years and it's not at all perfect.

AGE / VALUE:   Motobecane Mirage posted by: Gralyn on 9/26/2002 at 3:31:43 PM
I am working on a Motobecane Mirage. I would be curious to know what model year bike it is. Is there any way to determine the year of manufacture? Are there any serial # charts, etc.? I haven't been able to find anything. Does anyone know?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Motobecane Mirage posted by Richard on 9/26/2002 at 5:26:58 PM
I have two mid-late seventies Moto Mirages I can approximate a date on them because they have bicycle licence tabs that run from 74-78. There is a number stamped on the front of the seat tube (above the top tube) that says 75 on both bikes. I dont know though if this is a part# or a year#. One bike is a 62cm and the other is 53cm so it isnt a size marking. Both bikes are the same year though. They have suntour Vcomp front and vgt rear derailers, weinmann 610/vainqueur 999 center pull brakes, dia-comp w/suicide brake levers, suntour stem mounted powershifters, rigida rims w/normandy high flange hubs. Is there a number stamped on your seatpost too?

   Motobecane Mirage posted by John E on 9/26/2002 at 7:15:35 PM
Be careful working on the BBs. Sometime during the mid-to-late 1970s, Motobecane finally got smart and converted from French to Swiss threading.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Motobecane Mirage posted by ri~chard on 9/29/2002 at 4:10:57 AM
I found out what those numbers are on front of seat post. There are also numbers stamped on the headtube, but my 62cm says 75 and the 53cm says 73.5, these are seat tube and head tube angles. Sorry that didnt help with age.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Motobecane Mirage posted by humberchristopher28@hotmail.com on 9/30/2002 at 5:25:25 PM
I have a catalog with this bike in it!
Where do I send this catalog to in the hope that some sharp bike loving nut will scan it and post it on the web for folks like you guys here to see?? This sits all folded up and It's not something I want to keep because I don't love Motobecanne.
These catalogs I write about are fold out posters on the reverse side and the copier's near me won't do things this large. I'm not going to tromp across town and pay to have posters copied. Better things to do. Mailing out some here and there to dedicated folks is fine. Heck, I'll gift it here and there but I want it scanned and posted on the web sites!
I don't want to run off copies anyways. I'm researching other things and running against the clock but I keep reading about you guys talking about this brand or that brand of bike and I have all these catalog sheets with color pictures and specs and it is driving me nuts. I'm jumping up and down saying "I can help you out with this!" All excited because I managed to save these catalogs from the old codgers wood stove and to have it just sit with me is a shame.
Pulled from the very jaws of death itself, and hopefully comming to an internet web site soon!

all sorts of brands, parts, tools, Campag.
I was a lucky-butt, that dude was gonna burn it all up.

AGE / VALUE:   Lotus posted by: Gralyn on 9/26/2002 at 1:31:15 AM
I spotted a beautiful Lotus in a thrift store. Unfortunately, it had a note on it - that it was already sold. It was beautiful, though. I don't even think there was a scratch on it. Chro-Mo frame, probably 1 1/8" alloy wheels, QR, Aero brakes, etc....most excellent condition.
Also, there was the same bike there from Spain....that has been there for at least 4 weeks...still priced at $40...still stitting there....
But then, I wondered what they were selling the Lotus for? What price had been put on it...what kind of deal did this person get?....but I didn't see a price on it at all....and every item there was priced with a sticker....but there was no sticker on this one....weird.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Lotus posted by Andrus on 9/26/2002 at 9:23:00 PM
Read some interesting comments someone made about an EBAY auction item, sarcastic but entertaining.


Lotus is a fine bicycle, I am sure. This one looks steel; and to tell you the truth, I may be missing something, but question asking opening bid price at $200 and that is without tires and chipped up. Especially, with a Peugot on some page, about $74. Maybe I am not savvy in this area and the seller is. I didn't know, Lotus made a Chro=Mo aerobrake bicycle. I thought that might be after their time, but take your word on it.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Lotus posted by Oscar on 9/27/2002 at 3:46:18 AM
Nice color: Pearl dusty rose? I like its looks.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Lotus posted by David Harrason on 9/28/2002 at 1:25:25 AM
What you may be referring to, with the Aerobrake Lotus bike, might be from the American Company. There were 2 different Lotus Bike manufacturers, 2 completely different companies, at least one closing from being under pressure financially. I am not sure of the American one.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Lotus posted by Elvis on 9/28/2002 at 7:14:06 PM
I think the first bike marketed w/ areo levers was a Lotus.