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Archived: Vintage Lightweights

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Legnano for sale on Italian Ebay posted by: Steven on 2/4/2003 at 2:36:36 PM
If you were not already aware, there is a Legnano that is for sale on Italian ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2904&item=2705225338&rd=1). I have been communicating with the vendor and he has been offered $500 outside of ebay for the bike and is thinking of ending the auction early to accept the offer unless he gets some bid action soon. As you can see from his feedback record, he is quite new to ebay and is not aware of the fact that many
people wait until the last minute to bid. He therefore is thinking that the lack of bids is a sign that nobody is interested period. He has also sent me a number of very good photos of the bike and it truly is a beauty. The
bike seems to have mostly if not all original parts. It is 56 cm c/c frame. The vendor is not terribly well-informed about how to best ship to the US but that shouldn't be too overly difficult to sort out at the end of the auction. The bike has a beautiful Dolomiti saddle that should be worth a pretty penny on its own. I had initially foreseen a 500 euro snipe bid but a lack of liquidity following a house purchase means that I will no longer be bidding.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Legnano for sale on Italian Ebay posted by Tom Findley on 2/4/2003 at 10:12:48 PM
UPS charges $3 per pound to ship packages to the USA.
US Customs charges 10% of the total cost of the item for import duty.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Legnano for sale on Italian Ebay posted by Steven on 2/5/2003 at 1:22:52 AM
UPS charges a 70 lbs rate for your standard bicycle box as it is considered oversize. It is cheaper to ship the frame, with fork removed in a custom-made box as small as possible and the wheels and other pieces in a separate box, thereby avoiding payment of the oversize cost. shipping 2 boxes can save you 50% on shipment of lightweight racing style bikes. Bicycle boxes as found in any bicycle shop in the US are not necessarily readily found in Italy.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Express Werke Neumarkt 1950s German Road Bike posted by: Brian L. on 2/4/2003 at 1:28:22 AM
Keith, Christopher Robin, et al, any help would be appreciated. I'm in the process of buying the following: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2155945298&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOAB:US:6. Checked with Cyclo-24 and he couldn't offer much info. Also found a little info on the web, but mostly in German. Looking for good documentation of original color scheme(s) and color image of the head badge.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Express Werke Neumarkt 1950s German Road Bike posted by Walter on 2/4/2003 at 2:35:26 AM
Sorry,I can't help with the info but at that priceI'd say you got a very interesting and erhaps even unique bike.


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Express Werke Neumarkt 1950s German Road Bike posted by Oscar on 2/4/2003 at 3:47:58 AM
I'm monolingual so I cannot help with German. The lugs are beautiful. I cannot see the stem clearly, but I'll bet it's an eyecatcher.

Put a seat on it before you ride.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Express Werke Neumarkt 1950s German Road Bike posted by sam on 2/4/2003 at 3:49:39 AM
Meerregion@aol.com This is the email adress to Alix Frank . He's in Germany and just put up a custom Express bike on BikerodNkustom web site. Maybe he or his friends in germany could help with your questions. --- ps nice bike!

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Express Werke Neumarkt 1950s German Road Bike posted by Warren on 2/4/2003 at 4:24:24 AM
Hi Brian...I woul love to see more pics of this bike when you get it. I have a German bike that appears to be a little older than your that also has crimped seat stays and I can't find anything else about it.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Express Werke Neumarkt 1950s German Road Bike posted by Steven on 2/4/2003 at 2:35:46 PM
Brian, I am fluent in German and can probably help you somewhat. The company was founded in the late 1800 by a Jewish entrepreneur. The company ceased to exist in the late 50's. The model that you purchased is likely their 'pro' model, even though I doubt that you have the original equipment on the bike. A novelty bike for a reasonable price. If you want any help send me an email.

AGE / VALUE:   Don Farrell Frame posted by: John on 2/3/2003 at 4:49:22 PM
Anyone ever heard of an English bike maker named Don Farrell. I have located and early 70's frame with a Campy NR group. Its Reynold's 531 DB tubing and is pretty nice, but doesn't appear to be a full on race bike, but certainly not a touring frame either. The head badge says the company was in Middlesex I believe.

   RE:AGE / VALUE: Don Farrell Frame posted by humberchristopher28@hotmail.com on 2/3/2003 at 9:27:47 PM
Yes, sifting thru past copies of Cycling magazines I have run across him.
He one of the many frame builders and/ or shop owner/ cycle dudes of the past that are not mentioned on the Cycles De Oro web site. At least not yet. Hopefully as time passes, we'll get pieced together enough info to get something about Don Farrell and others together so more interresting and informative info can be added to a site like Cycles De Oro or on another place on the web.
What I'm saying is, I would like to help contribute something.

I'd like to assemble a packet of information/ ads/ whatever I have and mail it to you. I'd suggest that you photograph your bike and send those pictures and the whole mess to the Cycles De Oro folks to get it on the page.
Others have run across his bikes and are(will) probably be wondering what the story is with Don Farrel and his bikes. Your machine sounds nice. Please e- mail a postal address and I'll get this bit of what I have out to you free.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Light at the end of the tunnel posted by: Bryant on 2/3/2003 at 12:29:58 PM
The dry spell seems to be breaking. My local thrift shop had a nice Motobecane Nomade on sale. I know it is the lowest of the line but it sure beats the Huffys and Murrays they had for the last three monthes. I also saw a Ladies Raleigh 3 speed Colt at the flea market yesterday. Didn't buy either bike, got enough work right now and neither excited me to the point of purchase. But I do see it as the first faint light at the end of a long tunnel.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Light at the end of the tunnel posted by Gralyn on 2/3/2003 at 1:35:28 PM
As I have been going through this dry spell - I reflect back on a little over 2 years ago - when the bikes seemed to be quite abundant: There would be 2 or 3 that I would have difficulty deciding between....and I look back and think.....why was I deciding between....why didn't I just buy both? I also think of some of the ones I passed on....old ones with 4-speed cassettes, a Schwinn Superior I passsed on because I couldn't decide between it and a Peugeot....because I didn't really know what the Superior was....now should that happen - I would grab it up right away.....but so far.....it hasn't happened....not a single old 10-speed to be found. Maybe the dry spell will end soon - I hope.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Light at the end of the tunnel posted by Richard on 2/4/2003 at 12:19:44 AM
The Raliegh Record I bought last week was the first one Id seen in a while. I think the single speed craze might be causing the slow down/disappearance of bikes.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Light at the end of the tunnel posted by Gralyn on 2/4/2003 at 12:46:11 PM
Still.....nothing. Maybe later things will pick up and I will see more of them. Maybe when Spring comes and folks start having yard sales again. Maybe when folks do their Spring cleaning.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Weight of stock, med. sized Schwinn Varsity posted by: Gralyn on 2/3/2003 at 2:36:55 AM
I dug out the old Schwinn Varsity project today - put it in my workshop....I will take it apart, clean and polish everything, then re-assemble. That thing weighs a ton! What was the actual weight of those things? I think mine's about a 23" frame....and about a 73 model, I think.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Weight of stock, med. sized Schwinn Varsity posted by Oscar on 2/3/2003 at 4:24:44 AM
About 40#, I'd say. How's your back?

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Weight of stock, med. sized Schwinn Varsity posted by Richard on 2/3/2003 at 5:43:07 AM
Mine weighed 40# with fenders and rear rack it was a 20" (see pic data base 71 varsity campus green). It wasnt any lighter without rack and fenders. Now its a ceiling ornamant at the LBS.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Weight of stock, med. sized Schwinn Varsity posted by Bryant on 2/3/2003 at 12:19:33 PM
I have an old Schwinn catalog and they state the weight of a Varsity at 38 pounds. I have a nice 1972 Kool Lemon Varsity I use as a beater bike around the neighborhood. Looking at the prices some of the Varsities are getting on ebay, I may have to downgrade to a lower end bike.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Weight of stock, med. sized Schwinn Varsity posted by Dave on 2/3/2003 at 10:02:03 PM
I have a Varsity for commuting w/700c Alloy wheels & Cromoly fork which weighs about 28lbs and other commuters I used to ride weighed about 35lbs w/Alloy wheels.You can see what adds weight to these bikes,but they are indestructable.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Weight of stock, med. sized Schwinn Varsity posted by Oscar on 2/4/2003 at 3:51:41 AM
I'm curious - how light can you make a Varsity? Sew up wheels, single speed, aluminum bars...can you get it below 26#?

      Weight of stock, med. sized Schwinn Varsity posted by John E on 2/5/2003 at 2:06:15 AM
Hi Oscar -- I think it would be hards to reduce a Varsity's weight much below 30 lbs. I commuted on one for six months, and removing the kickstand (1 lb) and replacing the steel rims with aluminum noticeably improved the bike, but the 27lb Peugeot UO-8 with which I replace it was a much better ride, at least until the chainstay cracked from fatigue.

   RE:   Weight of stock, med. sized Schwinn Varsity posted by Oscar on 2/5/2003 at 4:56:51 AM
Yeah, John, weight doesn't mean much to me. I'm a flatlander and I don't have any plans to race it.

AGE / VALUE:   When did lambert--------- posted by: sam on 2/2/2003 at 11:03:01 PM
When did Lambert/Viscount bite the dust?Picked one up.it's a late model Viscount(areospace G.P. or something) by Trusty of England.Has the death fork,but shimando derailers.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   When did lambert--------- posted by Ian on 2/3/2003 at 9:01:59 AM
Sam, I too picked up a Lambert at our local second-hand store a few weeks ago and posted some questions. I immediately got all sorts of dire warnings about the fork but also lots of good info and was directed to the Classic Rendevous page on Lamberts http://www.classicrendezvous.com/British/lambert_bikes.htm I also posted an add on their page and was offered some parts, both new and second hand. The store owner also managed to get me the steel fork from the previous owner. The Veteran Cycle Club has a Lambert specialist. Funnily enough I had just come back from another good ride on it and decided I would do a post tonight to establish a value to sell it. Nothing wrong with the way it rides but it is just not the same as the pre 1950 bikes I have stuck to until now. Mine has incorrect brakes and a late model Campag rear derailleur but I located a set of new brakes in England and an earlier derailleur should not be hard to find. Anybody care to offer an opinion on value? Thanks, Ian.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   When did lambert--------- posted by sam on 2/3/2003 at 10:11:22 PM
I've heard for 2 years about those "death forks" so when this bike showed up at the goodwill I just had to have it.Mine is the lug less model but does have lambert brake handles.and viscount on on other parts.L/ws from the 70s arn't really my bikes so i always check at classic rendevous and here for info on them.Now I did get a 1936 pierce racer in Dec. ,that's more in line for me---sam

AGE / VALUE:   Falcon ID needed posted by: Paul Williams on 2/2/2003 at 10:50:27 PM
I recently picked up a project frame (minus original fork) for a few bucks. It is a Falcon. I don't know much about the frame nor do I have any idea of date, although the previous owner thought 1960s. It is probably not high end - no tubing decal, no-name drop-outs (without adjustors)but it does have Nervex lugs and Bottom Bracket. It has pump-pegs on the down-tube, minimal braze-ons (cable braze-on on chainstay and one on side of down-tube), no rear-der. hanger. It has the pretty Falcon head-badge and has quite elaborate lugs. The bike is white. The down-tube decals are silver foil with Falcon in red - the panel (it wraps around the downtube) is bordered with red and black. The same decals are on the top-tube although badly worn. On the seat-tube are a couple of panels - one with a Falcon in black above the name Falcon (in red) and the lettering "made in Lincolnshire, England". The top panel has Falcon under which is a Union Jack and again "Made in Lincolnshire, England". There are also red and blue bands on the ST framing these panels.

The frame is ST 53cm c-c, TT 57cm c-c. Serial number reads:

PEL 485 M
X 1138

Any help on dating and identification would be gratefully received. Also if anyone has an orphaned Falcon fork please let me know.


Paul Williams

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Falcon ID needed posted by Warren on 2/2/2003 at 11:43:01 PM
Hi Paul...I don't know anyone who has date codes on these frames...components are usually a good indicator. To me, foil decals usually indicate at least late 60's/early 70's. I've seen a few Falcons very similar to yours...Huret/Simplex/Nomandy/Rigida/Atom/Mafac/GB are likely choices for missing componentry.

A good candidate for a fixed gear conversion...you can mount a tighter front fork to allow shorter brakes to get some stoppin' power.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Falcon ID needed posted by sam on 2/3/2003 at 2:40:35 AM
Maybe you can find something here http://www.classicrendezvous.com/British/Falcon.htm

WANTED:   Dura-Ace BR7401 Calipers posted by: Robby on 2/2/2003 at 2:25:18 AM
I am looking for a set of Dura-Ace brake calipers Model BR7401, E-MAIL me if anyone has any they want to sell.

AGE / VALUE:   Spoke N Word II posted by: Richard on 2/2/2003 at 12:20:22 AM
To Oscar, Keith, Stacey, Sam, and any other wheel Guru's: I just got a chance to test my off spoked wheel (27" rim, 8/9 speed hub 130 spacing, w/15ga nondrive side, 15/16ga swagged drive side), mounted on a late eighties Schwinn Traveler frame. Sweet!!! Stayed true, no creeking, no pinging. I laced this by accident, but I would definately lace another with straight gauge spokes on the nondrive side and swagged spokes on the drive side with the exeption of using 14ga and 14/15ga for more strenght.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Spoke N Word II posted by Oscar on 2/2/2003 at 5:03:41 AM
I'm glad it worked out. It's very satisfying to build a wheel, but not the same one twice.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Spoke N Word II posted by Stacey on 2/2/2003 at 11:53:29 AM
Great Richard, thanks for the up-date. To mirror Oscar's sentiments... rework sux!

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   smokin' deals posted by: Brian L. on 2/1/2003 at 6:01:19 PM
There have been a couple of threads recently about good buys, including the discussion of the RB-1 below and the Japanese Paramount preceding that. Check out this great(IMHO) deal: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2706122546&category=7298.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   smokin' deals posted by Richard on 2/1/2003 at 11:59:53 PM

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   smokin' deals posted by Richard on 2/2/2003 at 1:25:09 AM
On second thought? Seller has a lot of bad feedback, might be restickered phoney?

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   smokin' deals posted by Oscar on 2/2/2003 at 5:15:46 AM
Interesting spade decal where a club might belong.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   smokin' deals posted by Warren on 2/2/2003 at 2:31:00 PM
I would never spend a large amount of money (if any) on this flake. Read the abusive feedback he gives his unhappy buyers. He's a jerk.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   smokin' deals posted by Brian L. on 2/2/2003 at 7:13:37 PM
Good to know. I've never dealt with the gent. He certainly puts a lot of bikes up on the website. I have noticed that some of them have shown up more than once, but never checked out his feedback.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   smokin' deals posted by Mo on 2/3/2003 at 5:53:46 AM
Warren - Good observation on the feedback - makes you wonder why so mean spirited with the responses - knowing the buyer or being aware is half of the game!

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   smokin' deals posted by: Brian L. on 2/1/2003 at 6:01:19 PM
There have been a couple of threads recently about good buys, including the discussion of the RB-1 below and the Japanese Paramount preceding that. Check out this great(IMHO) deal: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2706122546&category=7298.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Nishiki posted by: Gralyn on 2/1/2003 at 4:54:23 AM
I parted with my Nishiki today. In a way, I really didn't want to - but I knew I needed to thin out the herd. I had advertised it locally - and at a decent price - and today, someone came and picked it up. At one time I had it set up as fixed gear - with different stem and bars. But, a while back I put all the original components back on it. Chro-mo frame, Dia-Compe 500 brakes, Sugino Cranks, Araya alloy rims, etc.
I was also a little worried that at a time when all the old vintage bikes seem to have vanashed.....I'm parting with one! Well, time to move on....and just get over it.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Nishiki posted by Kevin K on 2/1/2003 at 1:38:46 PM
Hi Gralyn. Like I tell my 17 year old son of girls and cars. " There will always be another one ". Kevin K

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Nishiki posted by Richard on 2/2/2003 at 12:15:19 AM
I parted with mine last week, but it was a little big for me. I really like the old Nishikis, Fujis and Shoguns. Not real collectors, but good solid rides.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Nishiki posted by Oscar on 2/3/2003 at 4:27:29 AM
Did you see his most recent responses to negative feedback. It's a long time since I saw that antisemetic word in writing. Is that how they spell it in Belgium?

   RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Nishiki posted by Oscar on 2/3/2003 at 4:35:10 AM
Whoops...this is in response to "Smoking Deals" above.

MISC:   Newbie Q re: Bridgestone RB-1 posted by: Dewane on 1/31/2003 at 9:59:26 PM

Sorry for the imposition here. I really don't know anything about lightweights, I lurk and occasionally post to the Roadster group, having a '62 Dunelt but that's about it.

Having had an embarrassing moment(s) at a New Year's day party, both me and my wife think I should take up another hobby besides drinking to excess and making a jackass out of myself. I'm 40 years old but don't like any of the usual middle-aged hobbies like golf.

I love commuting and taking short (20-30 mile) trips on my Dunelt, and it might be time to move up to something with a little more performance and little newer.

I live in Santa Clara CA; there's a cycle shop in Berkeley (about 60 miles away) that's selling a Bridgestone RB-1 with SunTour GPX components for $600. Is this a good deal? I haven't seen the bike yet but plan to this weekend.

Not quite like getting a Paramount for $350, but still.

Basically I'd like something in a chromoly frame that has somewhat slack angles (maybe between a modern road and touring bike).

Respond here or to my e-mail address, thanks. The more I think about this, the more I'm looking forward to it. And being on the left coast this could be a year-round thing (already is).

- Dewane

   RE:MISC:   Newbie Q re: Bridgestone RB-1 posted by w_judd@yahoo.com on 1/31/2003 at 10:43:36 PM
Bstones, particularly the RB1, have a devoted following and there's alot of info out there.

I'm not one of the BOB brethern so my info is probably not top shelf but from what I've observed 6 bills is decent but not the deal of the week by any means. It will buy you alot more bike than that kind of money would get you in the new market w/o doubt. From everything I've heard an RB1 is the type of bike you can ride the rest of your life and that makes $600 look pretty reasonable, at least it does IMHO.

Bring cash, many shops don't like carrying "obsolete" friction shifters so you might be able to haggle.

   RE:MISC:   Newbie Q re: Bridgestone RB-1 posted by JONathan on 2/1/2003 at 4:17:36 AM
Can't go wrong with a bike like the RB-1. The numbering system for the Bridgestones is reversed; meaning that the RB-1 is a top-of-the-line machine. One model is the "Spica" and another is "Regulus" which are great to ride. I think the quality of the Bridgestone bikes is of the highest level. My "Spica" is a very "lively" ride which is why I don't commute on it, just a individual preference. Check Sheldon Brown site for the Bridgestone descriptions.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Newbie Q re: Bridgestone RB-1 posted by JONathan on 2/1/2003 at 4:24:39 AM
Here's the site page: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/japan.html#bridgestone

   RE:MISC:   Newbie Q re: Bridgestone RB-1 posted by Gralyn on 2/1/2003 at 4:52:09 AM
I recently picked up an RB-1. I have only been able to ride it for a very brief time - as the weather hasn't cooperated. But, from what information I have seen - I think anywhere between $400 and $500 would be a good price. $600 isn't bad - but I think $500 would be a reasonable offer.

WANTED:   Schwinn Le Tour dust caps '74 - '75 posted by: Mo on 1/30/2003 at 7:43:53 PM
Hey Guys - Looking for a couple of dustcaps that would have been on the old Le Tours '74 - '75 The caps would have screwed in to the crank arms - The pedal arms are the alloy variety with "Le Tour and "Schwinn Approved" appearing - condition isn't a big deal - Thanks, Mo

   RE:WANTED:   Schwinn Le Tour dust caps '74 - '75 posted by Eric Amlie on 1/30/2003 at 8:32:05 PM
Mo, email Tom Findley. You can get his email address from his post below. He was just looking for some of those a couple weeks ago and found a source. I'm sure he'll be happy to let you know where to find them.

   RE:RE:WANTED:   Schwinn Le Tour dust caps '74 - '75 posted by Mo on 1/31/2003 at 1:05:46 AM
Hey Eric - Thanks for the heads up - I'll drop Tom a mail and see if he can hook me up - Talk to you later, Mo

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Bike Boredom posted by: Gralyn on 1/30/2003 at 3:27:35 PM
I hate the cold! I don't like to ride in the cold! I could bundle-up and ride some in the cold - but it's dark and cold by the time I get home from work. I had the idea to take my bike to work with me - and go ride right after work - before my trip home - but here for the past several weeks - the weather has been too cold and snowy....and I live in the South!
So, to try and keep from going crazy - I had hoped to find some more old vintage bikes to work on indoors. But, there have been no bikes out there. I have looked and looked - and there is just nothing to be found. So, I go back over my current "collection" to see just what I can do.....
Well, the other night - I brought in my old Nishiki fixed gear from the garage - which I had painted back in the summer - and waxed it. It made is shine, made it look better. Then, for a few nights I have been sitting and cleaning and polishing old components while I watch TV. I cleaned up a component set from off a Jeunet Mixte....and I'm wishing I had a men's Jeunet frame to put them on. I have more components to clean.....
My 2 newest additions (Bridgestone RB-1 and Lotus 3000R)are there in my bedroom - parked on each side of a dormer - all cleaned and polished - waiting for nice weather. They're parked there so I can secretly admire them. They've been there so long - maybe my wife has gotten used to them - and doesn't even notice them anymore.
Well, I have an old Schwinn Varsity I could re-build. I also have an old Columbia I could also rebuild - but I just haven't been able to get excited enough about either of those bikes to actually do it. I suppose as the boredom gets greater...and as I have no luck finding any other bikes - I will probably bring one of them in and start the process.
Wishing for Spring!!!
I hope it comes early this year! What do people who live up North do? I would be completely insane!

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Bike Boredom posted by Kevin K on 1/30/2003 at 6:35:54 PM
Hi Gralyn. I live up north if you wish to consider Toledo, Ohio north. I had to drop my car off for repairs the other morning. It was -2 below. Windchill who knows. No one to take me home so just in case of that I'd packed a bike in back. Not a road bike but a mountain bike (EGAD MAN ) A 1999 Schwinn Homegrown I picked up last summer. I dressed well and off I went. My kids had messed with the seat adjustment so after about 15 min. into the ride I went back to the shop and ask them to jack the seat up a bit. So back on the road. All was well until I hit a huge patch of ice where a water main break had occured a few days earlier. I pull one foot out of the pedal/toe strap, the bike spins about. As I struggle with the other I feel the rear end completely out of control now and realize I'm going down. No cars on top of me. Down I go. Didn't get hurt but about 15 people saw me wipe out. BUMMER. I brush off as if this is an everyday thing. No big deal. Back on the bike. Feet in straps. Off I go. I was out for 1hr., 45 mins. I was sweating when I got home. Great ride. The plus side. Out of the house and back in the saddle again. Kevin K

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Bike Boredom posted by ROB on 1/30/2003 at 8:22:30 PM
I live up north too, waaaay up in Canada...though it's the 'tropical' part...Vancouver. I commute daily to work, 9 miles each way and believe it or not, I've only missed one day so far this winter on account of the weather..just a little too much black ice. Other than the occasional icy day, the real bummer here is the darkness and to a lesser extent the rain. It's easy these days to gear up for the rain with gortex and lots of lights, but it does slow down the commute by about 5 minutes, and sometimes a bit more.

Of course, I don't ride my 'good' bikes. I have several nice riders that I consider 'rain bikes'...an early '80's Nishiki Royal is the main one this winter and I have used an early '80's CDN-made Raleigh (model unknown) with a pretty nice drive train, mostly SunTour, and I have several others I could use.

Still I look forward to the spring and summer when I ride the Raleigh Super Course and the Gardin (a better quality CDN make), and occasionally a higher end Benotto (model uncertain at least to me). I'm looking forward to finally getting the Gitane TDF on the road and also trying out a recently acquired Austro-Daimler SLE I've almost finished rebuilding...

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Bike Boredom posted by Keith on 1/30/2003 at 8:42:17 PM
Guys guys -- bundle up (layers of wool work best for me), get some lights, and make yourself some studded tires. Trust me, you'll enjoy riding in the winter when everyone else has hung up their bikes. I rode 28 miles yesterday in Columbus Ohio, after fresh snow and some freezing rain, and I LOOKED for ice to ride over (I found lots). Studded tires work!

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Bike Boredom posted by Don on 1/30/2003 at 8:43:08 PM
Hi Graylyn:
I commute regularly to work here in Olympia, WA. Similar maritime climate to Vancouver. 4 miles each way & logged over 4,000 miles last year. My winter bike is a Centurion Pro tour 15 with a Dynohub feeding a lumotec headlight. I get by with sweaters, rain gear, gloves & having a convenient parking place 1/2 way to work for those days when intermittent rain turns to firehose mode. If it gets really nasty or icy, I drive. I have several "rain bikes" to get through the winter but I admit to looking forward to drier times when I take out the pampered, pretty ones. Don

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Bike Boredom posted by Darryl on 1/31/2003 at 1:00:58 AM
Just got back from a two hour ride on my Marinoni Special. Not to much snow and ice down here in Palm Beach County. I rode along the ocean with blue skys and about 75 temp. Not a bad day. Palm trees were gently swaying in the tropical breeze. Even had a sighting of a flock of parrots. Saw a sea cow (manatee) at the Palm Beach Inlet the other day. No boredom here in S. Florida. Looking for another Italian lightweight to recondition or build from the frame up. Cheers, Darryl

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Bike Boredom posted by Rob on 1/31/2003 at 1:33:05 AM
Darryl...What can I say that won't sound catty, as I look out the office window, (5:10PM),...it's dark and pouring with rain. Another wet, dreary ride home!!!...Grrr...

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Bike Boredom posted by Wings on 1/31/2003 at 7:20:09 AM
It was blazing hot today -- around 87 degrees! Too hot to ride so I worked in the garage on three bikes. It was much cooler in the garage!!!
We have the cold at night and T shirt weather in the morning. I hope it cools down a little.
Ventura County, Ca

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Bike Boredom posted by Ray on 1/31/2003 at 3:49:57 PM
Well I am in the NE, New Jersey to be exact just right outside of NYC. I work 26 miles from home and was riding well until the darkness set in. We have had cold like we have not had in quite a few years. Snow and single digits for several weeks. I can deal with the cold, I can deal with the snow. The darkness would not normally be a problem but if any of you guys ride in the NE on narrow bad roads with more traffic than you can imagine then you would know why you cannot ride in the dark. If I was to fall like Gralyn did above then I would be run over 5 times before anyone noticed. Once they notice they would then just drive around so they would not mess up their cars. It is real tough to ride in this area in the winter, trust me. On a happier note, several years ago I purchased and ICE BIKE. For those of you who don't know, this bike has an ice skate blade in the front, a spring loaded blade in the middle and a rear wheel that has a metal band like a cheese grater on the rear. I took it out on a lake here this weekend with some friends and had a blast. At least I can ride on the local lakes as one benefit to this cold. Funny, don't hear much about global warming this year I am waiting for the global freezing crowd to start up.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Bike Boredom posted by Keith on 1/31/2003 at 5:41:33 PM
Ray, where did you get your ICEBIKE? Is there a website with pics? I undestand about the roads in your territory --narrow, and no berm, just trees and ditches, and lots of hairpin curves. I agree that's dangerous for night riding no matter what light system you use.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Bike Boredom posted by Hallyx on 1/31/2003 at 11:17:20 PM

Sorry, Darryl, but I can't think of anything more boring than riding in a straight line in one gear all day with no great hills to climb and to blast down the other side on twisty, winding roads with great views.

Like Gralyn, I HATE the cold (anything below 45F). Sure, I can dress warm, but I hate the aching in my lungs from breathing hard; I hate when my nipples hurt; and I hate cold toes. But even roller-riding while watching TV is more interesting than flat, straight roads.


   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Bike Boredom posted by Darryl on 2/1/2003 at 1:34:28 AM
When I want hills, I climb the 7-story parking garage or ride up the Blue Heron bridge (about 100 feet high). You can get a good workout if you repeat the climbs 10 - 15 times. About the best I can do for climbing in S. Florida.I spend my vacations in mountains of N. Carolina or California. Rode up Mount Mitchell in Sept. 2001. Being in S. Florida I crave mountain climbing since it's so flat here, but you can't beat the weather from Nov to Apr.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Bike Boredom posted by Ray on 2/3/2003 at 4:15:51 PM
Keith, I have had this bike for some time now and I will have to give the head badge a look to see what and where it comes from. I did find a photo of it on this web site. Go about one third the way down and look for the kid riding one on the ice. This is the exact type of bike I have.