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AGE / VALUE:   OLD SCHWINN 10 SPEEDS posted by: Kevin K on 4/20/2004 at 6:44:06 PM
Hi all. Since my computer died a few months back I've not been watching what bikes are doing on ebay. Lately I have. Last week I believe a 1973 Sunset Orange Continental sold for $218 I believe. The other day a second 73 Sunset Orange Continental sold for $227.50. The 73 in Sunset Orange is a one year only color, same goes for the 73 Super Sport. So keep those eyes open at the garage sales this year. Seems to be one late model that's in demand. Kevin

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   OLD SCHWINN 10 SPEEDS posted by marc on 4/20/2004 at 10:11:29 PM
Wow, I feel like a dope. I sold a 73 orange super sport for 70.00. I paid 10.00 for it and thought I did alright because I got to keep the brooks seat. You live you learn.


   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   OLD SCHWINN 10 SPEEDS posted by Derek Coghil on 4/20/2004 at 11:06:14 PM
I've found a Schwinn "(something) Le Tour" - I've forgotten the first word - it's black and has Dia-Compe brakes but no wheels. I'm swithering over whether to buy it or not, it's on the scrap pile and would probably be £1 or so. I probably will, I've never seen one before.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   OLD SCHWINN 10 SPEEDS posted by Kevin K on 4/20/2004 at 11:56:14 PM
The LeTour is a real question mark. I feel it'll be a long time before these bikes ever become a collector unless it's a mint, flawless original. The Chicago bikes, in certain colors and years, seem to be the bikes getting attention. Voyageur 11.8's seem to do ok too. These bikes were also made by Panasonic. As for the LeTour, is it good for parts?

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   OLD SCHWINN 10 SPEEDS posted by Derek Coghill on 4/21/2004 at 10:50:35 PM
It's complete (except for the wheels); as I said, I've never seen one before (I'm in Scotland) and I think it's an unusual thing here. I may go and get it on Saturday.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   OLD SCHWINN 10 SPEEDS posted by Gralyn on 4/22/2004 at 1:07:06 AM
Just for heck of it - I picked up one of those Schwinn....whatever's....with the x-tra-lite frame (really just 1020 steel). Why did I do that? I asked myself that....but I guess it was because it was in pretty good condition, had Weinmann alloys with QR front and rear. I had one of those Schwinn's before.....it looked practically new....it had bolt-on chrome rims, though. I sold it for about what I had in it. I've had quite a few Schwinns.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   OLD SCHWINN 10 SPEEDS posted by JONathan on 4/22/2004 at 7:08:46 AM
Gralyn, I have a '77 "Le Tour II" with that "Xtra-lite" (gas pipe steel) tubing. It looks nice, but it ain't nothing to ride. I think they made a good thing into a mediochre thing. judging by the success of the earlier versions of the species.
In fact. my '72 "Super Sport" rides better. I thought with the "II" after the name, it would be a notch up the line from the straight "Le Tour". This one has steel rims and steel bars. The cranks are alloy Sakae, I think. The SunTour derailer is pretty decent.
Now, those 4130 "Travelers" were a different story. They actually made them better as time went on.
Just a couple of c's.

AGE / VALUE:   Mossberg posted by: Gralyn on 4/20/2004 at 2:33:28 PM
I picked up a Mossberg. I think it's from New York. The only reason I got it was that it was only $5, and it looked really old, and I had never heard of it......but upon closer inspection - it looks more early 70's. It looks like gas pipe frame (kind of like an Iverson). Decal on head tube, Shimano Tourney brakes and levers, Sun tour shifting. Rims look chrome with dimpled braking surface. It's rusted really badly - component-wise.
(I can't remember if it's Mossberg or Mossburg).

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Mossberg posted by Walter on 4/20/2004 at 4:02:45 PM
Mossberg is a firearms maker, mostly shotguns as well as other related outdoor sports products.

Like many others they stuck their name on lower-line bikes during the Boom to try to get into what was then a profitable business. Bike is almost certainly Asian

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Mossberg posted by T-Mar on 4/20/2004 at 4:11:05 PM
The correct spelling is Mossberg. Your assesssment sounds fairly accurate. You should be able to date it from the codes on the SunTour derailleurs, assuming they are original.

I recall them from the mid '70s and primarily for entry level bicycles and BMX. However they produced a full range and were notable for producing the first graphite (i.e. carbon fibre) bicycle. However, they also produced some quirky product. They had a Racelite fork with 6 large holes in the top of the blades and some models had a large reflective "M" attached to the rear brake bridge.

If I recall correctly, Mossberg were into all kinds of sporting goods and not just bicycles. The address that I have for them is Connecticut.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Mossberg posted by Joe on 4/21/2004 at 6:36:35 AM
I had been told sometime ago that Mossberg had bought out the defunct Rollfast line in the mid 70's. I've seen several different Mossbergs around here, all look to be rebadged Rollfast models.
I had also wondered that since Rollfast had been buying rebadged Motobecanes under the name of Astra, did Mossberg also get the rights to that name as well, or even continue selling the same bike?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Mossberg posted by Joe on 4/21/2004 at 6:52:50 AM
There's a pic of a mid 70's Mossberg ad poster at: http://njbicycle.s5.com/index.html
If I remember correctly, these were issued when Mossberg first took over Rollfast.

   :   Mossberg posted by John E on 4/21/2004 at 2:30:59 PM
This talk about Mossberg reminds me of the forgettable Browning bikes and chainring transmissions of the 1970s. I guess the American arms makers figured if Steyr could make bikes, they could, too!

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Mossberg posted by ilikebikes on 4/21/2004 at 2:31:32 PM
Nice link Joe, thanks. From your link I got to this page.
I can't beleive how similar this bike is to my Peaugeot.

   60's Astra Tour De France posted by Ty on 5/6/2004 at 8:06:39 PM
I recently picked up an Astra Tour De France men's 10 speed on a trade for labor deal. It looks pretty nice. Needs a new seat or the old leather one repaired. Does anyone here know about these things? It looks pretty old with faded green paint and old fashioned 60's cruiser handle bars and leather seat. It has Tour De France on a faded emblam/sticker on the crossbar in front of the seat. But it's not set up like a road racer. It is set up for casual cruising. 24 inches from the center of the crank to the crossbar.

MISC:   Just a Glorious Day posted by: Bryant on 4/20/2004 at 11:20:26 AM
Rode into to work today and watched the sunrise while pedalling. Man it just doesn't get any better. just had to share that.

   RE:MISC:   Just a Glorious Day posted by Rob on 4/20/2004 at 6:36:27 PM
Yeah...I know the feeling, and I've had a number of them these past few weeks...but not this morning...not in the Northwest... heavy rain!!!....and a real cold rain, too...the metal bracket holding the plastic front fender on my dirty weather bike snapped off about 10 minutes into my 45 minute commmute... feet got soaked... my gloves were too light for the cold rain... but the good days will be back again soon... and it's still better than sitting in a car rushing from traffic light to traffic light, or riding the transit system, packed in with 80 other 'sardines', hoping no one is going to give you a cold or whatever...

The only thing that keeps me off the bike is too much snow and too much black ice... and that won't be an issue again for 8 months....yahoo!!! ...:)

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Early Gitane Catalog Pages posted by: Joe on 4/20/2004 at 7:05:01 AM
I have posted a few pages from an early 70's Gitane catalog online, the following models and spec sheet are posted, Gran Sport, Alpine, Interclub, Tour de France, and Super Corsa.
Gran Sport and Alpine:

Specs page, Interclub, TDF, and Super Corsa:

I will leave these up for a week or so and then repost other pages or info.


AGE / VALUE:   Aligning bars with front wheel posted by: TimW on 4/19/2004 at 10:51:25 PM
Sorry about posting twice below, my browser gave a message that made me think the first posting didn't get through.

I have another question. No matter how carefully I eyeball the bars & front wheel when I'm tightening the stem, when I get on the road they are out of alignment. It seems I can tell while I'm riding, but not when the bike is still. Does anyone have a good system for getting this right?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Aligning bars with front wheel posted by JONathan on 4/20/2004 at 1:55:11 AM
Assuming you have a regular type type of headset, I can think of a couple things. One is the stem is not anchored tight enough inside the steerer tube. Two, the stem or wedge is not functioning properly in anchoring the stem inside the steerer tube. A third possible is you are moving the stem while tighening down on the crown nut. As a speculation, the forks may be out of true, making the wheels run off-center a bit to create the illusion that the stem is not lined up with the top-tube. I have that problem on a bike. I can ride it, but it is a bit disconcerting to see the offset. It is a cruiser that has had a tough go of things. I would try getting the bearings adjusted first, then mess with aligning and tightening the stem. The headset bearings can be tricky to get just right. I have to try a few takes.
The last one, I over=tightened the race and then backed it up into the crown assembly to loosen it a tad. This worked for me, without having to worry about the ctwon nut moving the race while nubbing it down. Hope this helps.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Aligning bars with front wheel posted by Joe on 4/20/2004 at 5:55:21 AM
The way I do it is to sit on the bike, loosen the stem binder bolt and eye up the front of the wheel and the stem using the frame tubes as a guide and then snug down the binder bolt.

If you are doing this, and it's aligned when sitting still, it makes me think something is bent or out of alignment elswhere. Posibilities are, as JONathan said, a bent fork, or a misaligned rear triangle or dropouts, or even an incorrectly dished rear wheel. Is the rear wheel centered in the frame? The front and rear wheels should follow the same track.

Also,take a good look at the bike from the rear, see if the rear wheel is paralel with the seat tube and not "leaning" one way or another, as well as aligned with the center of the brake bridge, (caliper bolt), as well as centered down between the left and right chainstays. A wheel that will only center in the front or at the brake caliper, but not in both places on a good frame is usually not dished correctly, and therefore not inline with the centerline of the frame.
Just a few ideas, hope this is of some help.

AGE / VALUE:    posted by: TimW on 4/19/2004 at 9:53:18 PM
I'm still really blown away about that Campy Gran Sport front derailleur that went for, what was it, nearly US$2000 on e-bay recently (someone posted on this site). What was that about? I have a set of Gran Sport derailleurs with a different Campy logo, and a set of Campy Gran Sport wheels with the same Campy logo (wings & quick release) on a 60's Crescent bike. It they are worth that kind of money, I wanna sell them! Can anyone explain about this?

   RE:AGE / VALUE: posted by Warren on 4/20/2004 at 3:22:15 AM
When you see those prices, you can almost always be sure that the part is rare...usually first generation. Don't assume yours is the same...there are very subtle differences.

Have a look at this campag pump head...http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3672483493&category=56197&s

See the little circle after Brev? If your pump heads have that then you too can get 500 bucks for a seemingly innocent part.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: posted by JONathan on 4/21/2004 at 5:12:01 AM
I'm diggin around for the GS that's jammed in the bottom of one of my parts boxes. As I recall, mine is missing the tension wheel. Like someone professed, here; "Don't throw anything away"! Thanks for the info.

AGE / VALUE:    posted by: TimW on 4/19/2004 at 9:53:18 PM
I'm still really blown away about that Campy Gran Sport front derailleur that went for, what was it, nearly US$2000 on e-bay recently (someone posted on this site). What was that about? I have a set of Gran Sport derailleurs with a different Campy logo, and a set of Campy Gran Sport wheels with the same Campy logo (wings & quick release) on a 60's Crescent bike. It they are worth that kind of money, I wanna sell them! Can anyone explain about this?

WANTED:   Truss-bridge Schwinn info posted by: John Berry on 4/19/2004 at 1:05:13 PM
Does anyone have any information on the truss-bridge Schwinns? Someday, relatively soon, I'd like to build a replica. I'd need as much info as possible... Dimensions, profile view, head badge design, etc, etc.
Any info is appreciated.

   RE:WANTED:   Truss-bridge Schwinn info posted by sam on 4/20/2004 at 1:56:36 AM
They were built on the standard 28" wheeled frames.Same as a Mead Roadester frame of the same time.Here's the link to some http://www.cyclesmithy.com/sa2.html

   RE:RE:WANTED:   Truss-bridge Schwinn info posted by John Berry on 4/22/2004 at 1:45:45 PM
Thanx, Sam. I'll check it out.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Dunelt 10 speed posted by: michael rabinowitz on 4/19/2004 at 2:50:41 AM
Almost forgot, the dunelt 10 speed has engraved handlebars to one side of the riser it has the map of England and to the other it is ingraved GB over the map. It has Dunelt head badge and has logos and writing all over it's frame.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   dunelt 10 speed posted by: michael rabinowitz on 4/19/2004 at 2:43:06 AM
I have a '66 or '67 Dunelt 10 speed with Reynolds 501 Tubes
campi deraillers, shifters, pedels, sprockets and hubs. It has Weinman center pull brakes and a brooks saddle. It's blue with red and white trim and has a hand pump. It used to have aluminum rims and white plastic fenders with black mud flaps. Origionally purchased at North Shore Cycle Co in Great Neck NY and I have never seen another one. No one can tell me they have either. What's the deal. Is this one of a kind? Someone please respond.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   dunelt 10 speed posted by P.C. Kohler on 4/19/2004 at 2:30:09 PM
Ah another one! I was offered a similar era Dunelt with all top end Campy components. From the specs, it was essentially a Dunelt-badged early version of the Raleigh International. Your machine--- is it Reynolds double-butted frame, forks and back triangle or?? You said it "had" alloy rims and white mudguards.... what happened to those?

People sneer at Dunelts as they associate the brand with the mid-market three-speeds, but if you judge a bicycle by its components and specs, there is nothing to laugh at it here.

P.C. Kohler

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   dunelt 10 speed posted by michael rabinowitz on 4/20/2004 at 8:42:22 PM
The Dunelt when new had thin plastic (white) full length fenders with black vinyl mudflaps. They broke early on and I could not replace them. Any idea on value?

   RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   dunelt 10 speed posted by michael rabinowitz on 4/20/2004 at 8:45:00 PM
The aluminium rims used to bend real easily so I went with steel ones after I got tired or replacing rims back then.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   club bikes? posted by: tod on 4/18/2004 at 9:33:41 PM
Greetings.. I found a site awhile back.. i believe it was a english site.. basically the site was full of older english club type bikes.. Does anybody know what i am talking about and could provide me a link.. or really any other sites that have some good photos old 3 speed club racer type bikes.. or have a fixer upper they want to sell me??? :)

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   club bikes? posted by sam on 4/19/2004 at 3:14:03 AM
I'd be right pleased by this one http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=420&item=2239247034&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
or http://www.oldcyclebits.co.uk/index.html

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   club bikes? posted by David on 4/19/2004 at 4:00:24 PM
The Claud Butler that Sam mentions above... Is it a 531 frame? There's no evidence of a decal, but the finish is very well preserved (repaint?) and it seems unlikely that such nice work would be lavished on an inferior frame.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Swap meet schwinns posted by: marc on 4/18/2004 at 6:50:51 PM
I picked up two nice 80's schwinns today, a traveler and le tour. The le tour is a full butted cro-mo frame including including the stays. It's a pretty nice bike, shimano components. My only question about it is what size wheels this would have come with originally? The rear is a 700C araya and the front is a 27 inch weinmann. I'm guessing it would have had 27 inch wheels although it the brakes look like they can handle 700C just fine.

The traveler is a butted chrome moly main tube frame. I believe it has suntour light action derailleurs.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Swap meet schwinns posted by JONathan on 4/19/2004 at 4:48:22 PM
My '77 "Le Tour II" was built in Japan, I believe Panasonic was the maker. My '80's "Traveler" is Taiwan built; Giant or Merida. I think Schwinn built a few "Le Tours" concurrent with their Japanese-branded ones.
The "Traveler" has the Dia-Compe cp's that are exactly like Weinmann "vainquers", in all outward aspects. Give the "traveler" a go. They are superb rides. Short wheelbase (40") gives a sporty ride. Best commuter bike I have.
I can't get fenders on the rear, so I use a different bike for rain rides. Both bikes have 27" wheels. SunTour Arx is on my "trav". The 52 tooth main ring gives a good cruising speed. I typically can keep up with any "modern" equipped bike when on flat terrains.
Handles real nice, as the frame is pretty stiff and I get very little waffle in tight moves. I really can't believe the ride one gets for the buck. The lugs and tubes are fitted like a bike costing beaucoup more. I can't speak for "travelers" in general as I am aware the model exhibits a wide range of quality, depending on the maker's effort.
This one...early 80's, they had it done right, IMHO. My "Le Tour II" is no match for the "trav".
Just my 2.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS: Swap meet schwinns posted by James Mahon on 4/19/2004 at 5:06:47 PM
I have an '86 Schwinn Passage which is about parallel to the Traveller in product line and quality. It originally came with 27" Weinmann's. However the brakes have enough reach if you convert to 700c.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS: Swap meet schwinns posted by James Mahon on 4/19/2004 at 5:29:44 PM
I have an '86 Schwinn Passage which is about parallel to the Traveller in product line and quality. It originally came with 27" Weinmann's. However the brakes have enough reach if you convert to 700c.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Swap meet schwinns posted by Joe on 4/20/2004 at 6:21:53 AM
I have a 2/77 Schwinn catalog here and a mid to late 80's Schwinn Caliente hanging in the garage, as well as a pair of mid 70's Schwinn Travelers, and a World Sport. All use 27" wheels, the LeTour II in '77 lists 1 1/4" tires and the Super LeTour lists 1 1/8" tires. The Caliente is Giant built and even has a Giant sticker on the right rear dropout. The '77's appear to be Panasonic built.
Does the headbadge or any decals say "Schwinn Approved"?
Look for a date code on the headbadge if it's Panasonic built or a serial number on a rear dropout if it's Giant built. Most Giant built bikes had a white rectangular decal with a date code afixed to a dropout along with the serial number stamping.
I would expect an Asian built Schwinn to use Araya w/o or similar Asian rims. The Weinnmann alloys were an earlier item. Travelers came with steel rims, most I've seen have been either Araya or similar. I had a '77 Super LeTour 12.5, that came with 27" Araya alloys, and Shimano high flange hubs and a Schwinn "LeTour" scripted Shimano derailleur. The derailleur looked to be similar to a Titlist or Altus model. Both very similar to the early Shimano 600's.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Swap meet schwinns posted by Kevin K on 4/18/2004 at 11:02:10 PM
Hi. The LeTour name was used starting in late 1973 through 2000? Anyway, need more info on the bike. Headbadge will have a serial number on it. Also what does the frame tubing decal say as far as type of tubing. Color? Shimano components? Altus LT? Thanks, Kevin

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Swap meet schwinns posted by marc on 4/19/2004 at 12:33:27 AM
the frame is full 4130 chrome moly including the stays. The headbadge says schwinn chicago, but it looks like one of the giant built schwinns. The derailleurs are shimano light action (indexed), if I remember correctly. It's white including a very nice white san marco seat which I'm assuming is an upgrade. Dia Compe side pulls. I'm positive its from the 80's and it is a 12 speed. I know its not a paramount but it seems to be a decent quality bike.

   RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Swap meet schwinns posted by Gralyn on 4/19/2004 at 1:57:56 AM
My experience with the Travelers.....most of what I've seen from the 80's have 27" Weinmann's

WANTED:   Chain for Veteran bicycle posted by: Preben Kristensen on 4/18/2004 at 7:56:52 AM
I have bougth an old bicycle, made by "Diamant Werke" (Germany)
The bicycle is from 1928 to 1935.
I am desperately looking for a new chain 5/8" x 1/8". The speciality is the length 5/8".
Can someone help me advising a supplier of such a chain

Thank you in advance
Preben Kristensen

   RE:WANTED:   Chain for Veteran bicycle posted by David on 4/19/2004 at 4:08:15 PM
Try suppliers of industrial chain. I just checked the Renold website (www.renold.com) and they seem to make 5/8" pitch chain; you should be able to get some - though maybe not nickel plated! Good luck.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Another Interesting Find...a "Made in Italy" late 80s Bianchi... posted by: Rob on 4/16/2004 at 5:32:54 PM
I thought this story would be a good morale booster...

Yesterday at the very bottom of bike shop's junk pile I found a celeste green Bianchi Quattro...Columbus Cromor tubing...the frame is pretty well wrecked...cracked head tube and lug where the downtube joins...The only drive train components left were a rusty chain...probably a good one, and a SunTour front der. (I think it's an SVX), branded "Quattro", with an "EI" date code suggesting 1989.

Here are the parts I got, or will get, off it:

a) celeste green seat..branded "Bianchi"...only a couple of small splits...rather pretty...

b) 27.2 laprade-type seat post, make I don't know...

c) Italian-size BB...the spindle which is badly pitted is a no-name, but I needed an Italian-size lock ring...I haven't checked the cups yet..and the balls are not in retainers...the grease looked original and was getting pretty stiff...

d) headset...Ofmega...haven't taken a close look yet, but it seems smooth

e) bars are "Manubria" (sp?)...nice...

f) stem looks nice, make I don't know

g) brake levers rather scratched up, make...I'm not sure, but the somewhat dried hoods look like Modolo

h) forks (Cromor)...look ok, but I'll have to check more closely when I take it apart...

i) dropouts ..haven't looked yet...would they be Campagnolo?

The frame has that nice racing geometry...
Does anyone want to offer any comments on salvaging the frame...I'm inclined to think that that just isn't a realistic possibility???

Price $0...lots of fun...you never know what you run into...Gotta keep looking... I also got a Campy spindle...shield logo; a basic Cr-Mo Shimano spindle...122(.5?)mm...I need a long one for another project; and a 115mm Shimano 600 (model 6400) spindle...but I had to pay for those, though reasonable prices...After all, you do have to support these shops to some degree...or where will all the freebies come from??...:)



   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Another Interesting Find...a posted by JONathan on 4/16/2004 at 10:09:52 PM
You can't do much better. Personally? I would take the frame down to a shop, preferably a buider-in-residense type of shop, and get it evaluated for restoration. There is a builder in a neighboring city to ine, that is a great resource. Check around there for a custom builder. If all you need is a new lug...hey, that's great. You'd have a fantastic bike to restore. I would determine, first, if the frame is a good size. The lugs are probably more brittle than the tubes, but stronger. At least, IMHO, it's a frame worth fixing and steel can always be fixed. That's the up-side of steel frames. The problem is, at what cost? If the frame geometry is intact and the lug is the only problem, it may well be a worthwhile effort. Nothing like a vintage Bianchi for sport runs. Good luck.
BTW, for reference, I have found Sugino makes an Italian BB, cups and axle that go on the Italian thread shells and 70mm span. I had to do that with my Bottechia. It turned out great, except I opted for cottered cranks to use my original cranks. Now, I'm thinking that was a mistake, but it looks vintage, anyway.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Another Interesting Find...a posted by marc on 4/18/2004 at 6:49:23 PM
Shimano also makes a bottom bracket in italian threading. Most shops won't carry it but you can have them order it. If I remember correctly it's only around 25.00 Not a bad price.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Another Interesting Find...a posted by marc on 4/18/2004 at 6:50:07 PM
Shimano also makes a bottom bracket in italian threading. Most shops won't carry it but you can have them order it. If I remember correctly it's only around 25.00 Not a bad price.

   Bianchi posted by John E on 4/20/2004 at 3:52:05 PM
Although I would not spend hundreds of dollars on professional refinishing, I think your Bianchi is probably worth fixing up and riding. My 1981 Campione d'Italia (TreTubi frame, Ofmega cranks, Campag. NR derailleurs) is a blast to ride, and I suspect yours has very similar frame geometry.

   RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Another Interesting Find...a posted by JONathan on 4/18/2004 at 11:37:35 PM
Good to know that info. Thanks. I paid about $30 for mine in 1980's dollars!
Goes to show how expensive fixing these hulks can get. I paid $40 for the whole bike, then dumped about $100 into getting it road-ready. Now, I say, when a bike is picked up for $5, add about 20x that to get it restored. And that's just mechanical stuff. Paint is another big chunk.
OTOH, when I recall what was acceptable for me riding 10 years ago, the numbers drop way down. Breaking a chain was just part of the riding experience. Gears popping was part of the deal of having more than one speed. Never heard of AvA stems. Horrid braking was the norm. Even those grinding buzzing noises from BB bearings were tolerated. Now, thanks to my increased awareness, even a basic fix-up is a major event.
Things, for me, went from; "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" to; "It's gonna break, better fix it".
Good rides!
Note: It is nice to not have grimey tattoos from the chain everytime I ride.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS: Another Interesting Find...a posted by Warren on 4/18/2004 at 11:44:26 PM
I couldn't see the value in repairing a Cromor frameset. Take the parts and save em for a "safe" frame.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   French Regina "ReginaSport" posted by: al on 4/16/2004 at 5:32:04 PM
Hello-I just put my old Regina 10 speed up for auction on ebay:
Check it out. I have never seen any other Reginas as long as I've been riding. This bike is from c.1971-72