MISC:   Vintage Race Bike For Sale! posted by: Dick on 4/19/2005 at 1:54:20 AM
I can't believe none of you guys have bid on this beauty! You're probably all, like me, waiting until the last second to post your bid. The race history alone should double it's value. Please guys, don't drive the price up too high. I really want this one. Check it out, but don't touch: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6526152475&fromMakeTrack=true
"Desparate in L.A."


   RE:MISC: Vintage Race Bike For Sale! posted by Warren on 4/19/2005 at 3:45:33 AM
Yeah...if you win the auction, I'll give $5 for it. But I don't want to pay for shipping, so just keep it...please.

   RE:MISC:   Vintage Race Bike For Sale! posted by Gralyn on 4/19/2005 at 11:35:18 AM
I won't bid against you. It's all yours.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Vintage Race Bike For Sale! posted by Kurt K. on 4/19/2005 at 5:45:15 PM
Same here, but I'll give you two bits for the fork...

   RE:MISC:   Vintage Race Bike For Sale! posted by Dick on 4/20/2005 at 1:39:21 AM
OK, you guys can have it. I already have a project similar to this one. I'm building up a 25" Raleigh Super Course frame (a $25 ebay special) with S-A 3speed on 27" rims. Frame, wheels, and stem are assembled. I'll order North Roads Nitto alloy bars, find some beefy brake levers, and grippy brake pads to get the most out of the Weinmann center-pulls, then all I need is the appropriate crank/chainring set and a nice wide Brooks saddle and I'm all set. It won't be as neat as this beauty in Kansas though.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Vintage Race Bike For Sale! posted by Kurt K. on 4/21/2005 at 1:50:32 PM
You'll be much better off with the Super Course, believe me.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Weird Decal on Frame posted by: Wayne on 4/18/2005 at 5:01:15 PM
This Spring I was given a Nishiki frame (no fork). While it is in really good shape it is very small, so I am not planning to re-build it. It does have some really good components on it so I am stripping it for parts for other projects. Apparently Nishiki was(is?) affiliated with Raleigh, and this frame has a serial number on it using the standard 70/80's Raleigh format. This allows me to date it to 1980.
Here is the weird part... On one of the chain stays is a decal whch says "Designed by Norco". Now Norco was never, in my opinion, anything special. I cannot imagine why Nishiki would want to put a decal like this on their bike.
Are there any knowledgeable Canadian bike hobbiests here with any information on this?
Also, if there is ayone living in Southwestern Ontario who would like this frame for a project, you are welcome to it, for the effort of picking it up. Otherwise it will be "recycled" (sorry but I couldn't resist).


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Weird Decal on Frame posted by T-Mar on 4/24/2005 at 8:16:05 PM
Any resemblance to the Raleigh serial number format is purely coincidental. Norco was the Canadian distributor for Nishiki from the late eighties, onwards. The Canadian line-up did not always reflect the US line-up. In some cases there were minor differences in the specs, while in other cases a model may be totally unique. On top of that, Norco was probably assembling the components onto the frame, to increase the Canadian content and lessen the import duties. Any or all of these reasons could justify the "Designed by Norco" decal.

However, this practice was rather tame compared to that of the previous distributor, Shields. I have a 1977 International which says SHIELDS NISHIKI on the downtube.


MISC:   Info Wanted posted by: Nick on 4/17/2005 at 7:21:22 PM
I have 2 Vintage Bikes, Don't know anything about them except they look to be 40's or 50's. One is an Elgin Womens Bike 26x2.125 tire on the front, missing a rear wheel. has a headlight on the front fender the rear fender looks to be half skirted. Pedal brakes. Looks to be originally blue and white under what is now red paint. Appears to be all original. The second is a Womens bike. Indian Princess is one the badge on the front. tire size is 26 x 1 3/8. has both wheels but only tire on the rear. this is a 3 spd bike. The shifter says Sturmey Archer England on it. everything is on this bike except the front tire. Appears to be all original. Are these bikes anything special or are they a "dime a dozen" type of bike? Any info about the bikes in general or their value would be appreciated. Thanks. - Nick.

   RE:MISC: Info Wanted posted by sam on 4/19/2005 at 2:52:30 AM
Elgin was the pre-war and just barly post war house brand for sears--before they were J.C.Higgins.
The Princess was sold by Indian Motorcycle Company.---sam

   RE:RE:MISC: Info Wanted posted by Nick on 4/20/2005 at 3:53:41 PM
Thanks for the info. Any ideas on sites where I can find dates of manufacture for the Princess? I have tried contacting Indian Motorcycle people and noone seems to know anything about them making bicycles. Any more help would be appreciated. Thanks again. - Nick.

   RE:RE:RE:MISC: Info Wanted posted by sam on 4/20/2005 at 8:18:48 PM
Indian motorcycle of today is not the same company.The original Indian company was bought by the British Cycle Corp.sometimes in the early 50s.Your Indian Priness was built by the B.C.C or PhillipsCycles as it's called.your princess was sold in the early 50s.The B.C.C closed Indian and sold their brands,changed a lot in the 60s,so by the 70s a guy in Cal.had to run down the original owners of the old indian name, which he got, and started selling a small Italian mo-ped as Indian but he went belly up too.Then in the 90s a shark took a lot of peoples money on the pre tence of building the "Indian" he went south with the money--several judges and law sutes later--we now have the Indian Motorcycle Company.Your bike started all this!!!---sam

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   New Orphan Bertin posted by: jack on 4/17/2005 at 3:59:49 AM
Picked up a '72 57cm Bertin Cyclotourist ($40) from a used bike shop going out of business. Pretty french Durifort frame with chrome socks and elaborate decals, old-style T-A 48/34 w/Al Lyotard pedals, Ideale 80, plastic Simplex, Cinelli "oval" stem and bars, Universal sidepulls.

Now here's the problem, I don't know what to do with her! She would make a good single-speed/fixie for around town. Or I could rebuild her as an original tourer (18" chainstays!) with either the Simplex (ugh) or Suntour derailleurs. Trouble is, I already have nice bikes that fit these niches. Last resort would be to part her out but I consider that heresy.
Any ideas would be appreciated?


   :   New Orphan Bertin posted by John E on 4/17/2005 at 11:59:57 PM
If it is essentially complete and original, why not leave it together and find it a good home?

   RE:: New Orphan Bertin posted by jack on 4/18/2005 at 2:39:07 AM
Thanks for your reply John, I think that's more or less what I'm going to do. I spent most he weekend disassembling and cleaning-up and the original paint, chrome and decals really look nice. I think I'll just put it back together as a nearly original vintage tourer with added fenders and rack and put some miles on it. If it doesn't suit me I'm sure someone else would be glad to get it.

   New Orphan Bertin posted by John E on 4/18/2005 at 2:02:37 PM
When I worked at Bikecology [now Supergo.com], then a Peugeot and Nishiki dealership, in the early 1970s, our competitor up the street carried Bertin, and their low and midgrade bikes always looked just a bit more polished than our equivalent Peugeots.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   New Orphan Bertin posted by andym on 4/18/2005 at 11:26:31 PM
Yes,clean it up and ride it,you'll love it! Andre Bertin frames ride great. Durifort tubing gives a real comfortable ride.I've owned two Bertin's,but sadly both were not really my size.Actually,photos of one of my old Bertin's is on the "Classic Rendezvous" web site.The same model as your's.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Fuji SJ-10 with EA-1 rims... posted by: Kurt K. on 4/16/2005 at 8:26:24 PM
Recently aquired a small Fuji SJ-10 featuring 26 X 1-1/4" alloy rims. Both tires were shot, so I picked up a pair of Kenda EA-1/S6 compatible tires for it this afternoon.

They mounted fine into the Japanese alloy rims, although they appeared a bit wider then the bike's original gumwalls.

It didn't take long for me to find out that the extra friction wasn't going to be the only problem - when I mounted the rear rim, I found the chainstay clearences on each side to be less then two millimeters - and the top bit of the tire clearing rubbing into the rear brake caliper. I removed the caliper to see what would happen (P.S.: caliper is a Dia-Compe 500 in back, Weinmann 999 in front), only to find no more then half a mil clearance between the brake bridge and the tire.

I've looked through the posts here and found the Schwalbe 597s mentioned, however, I have yet to find a comparable tire available in the states...

Any suggestions?

Take care,


P.S.: *RANT* Leave it to Schwinn to put fat tires on everything! *RANT*

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS: Fuji SJ-10 with EA-1 rims... posted by Warren on 4/16/2005 at 11:52:51 PM
Hey Kurt...I've got a couple of NOS Michelins that will do the trick. Email me.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Fuji SJ-10 with EA-1 rims... posted by smitty on 4/17/2005 at 2:37:47 AM
I heard Univega also used the ea-1 rim dia. I have a pair of nice Univega 26 x 1,1/4 made by National Tire Co. They are very narrow and vary good quality check your local older bike shops you have to talk to the old timers they be more likley to know what your talking about. You never Know they may still have some on the back shelf. The shwalbe are wider than the normal 1.250's you are used to. I would like to find another 1 or 2 myself. I was also wondering if your wheels are spoked 32 hole x 40 hole. I am trying to figure out if my alloy EA-1's are from the 70's or hopfully 50's or 60's Thanks Smitty

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Fuji SJ-10 with EA-1 rims... posted by Smitty on 4/17/2005 at 2:42:57 AM
Also I just got a set of the shwalbe tires and I was not impressed. The old french tire can't be any worse.

   RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Fuji SJ-10 with EA-1 rims... posted by Kurt K. on 4/17/2005 at 2:30:20 PM
Only shop in Miami that I believe may have anything at all would be Tamiami Cyclery - I've found some older tires hanging around his shop.

Nope all my rims are 36ers - I have three (including those on the Fuji) at last count. All feature stainless spokes:

Aluminum 36h front, Japan - also has a nice aluminum hub

Steel 36h front, narrow width
(haven't looked for the manufacturer's name - looks suspiciously like an alloy rim, if it weren't for the light pitting). Steel hub featuring poor plating and a good deal of rust. This one was on the Fuji when I got it.

Steel 36h rear, slightly wider, has 3 lines embossed around the center perimiter. Also a steel hub with the same pitiful plating. This is the rear from the Fuji. Six-sprocket Mallard freewheel w/no grooving whatsoever to aid shifting.

Incedentally, all 3 rims appear to be in excellent shape, and the steel ones have very, very slight rust on the inside which supports the excellent condition of the bike.

One unfortunate note though: I may (or may not) have mentioned this, but I was forced to saw off the beautiful, original Nitto stem to put the long-reach Cinnelli in. As you may imagine, since the stem is still wedged in the head tube, I ultimately swapped the front fork for a Peugeot 27 incher.

It sits a bit higher in front (and a long-reach Weinmann 999 just barely gets the brake pads down), but it seems to work.

By the way, if anyone wants the original Fuji 26 X 1-1/4 fork with the Nitto stem in it - $10 takes it.

Take care,