FOR SALE:   Sports Tourer posted by: jack on 5/21/2005 at 5:03:40 AM
Attempting to thin the herd I got off my butt and got the 25" '74 Sports Tourer rolling for a prospective local buyer. At 27 lbs sans brakes and derailleurs its not bad considering the frame feels indestructable. With long wheelbase this bike rides like its on a cloud. Hate to give it up but a 23" is closer to my size. Anybody have a ST frame or whole bike to trade?...N. Calif

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Buyer's Remorse posted by: jack on 5/20/2005 at 6:51:54 AM
Well, in a moment of weakness (senior moment?) and due to increasing scarcity of quality european iron, I bought a Miyata 512 Competition for $15. Bike looked nice with great paint, right size, lugged frame, Made in Japan, etc. After stripping bike and finding none of the japanese and Shimano components very compelling, the frame felt heavy and dead as well. I weighed the 23.5" frame, fork, HS&BB and found 7 lbs. By comparison, I weighed an early-80's 700 series Trek (531) and got 6 lbs. I think this triple-butted hype is triple-butt baloney. Even unicrown fork has no redeeming features unless you want to loosen your fillings.

That's the last time I buy this modern (by our vintage stds) mass-produced crap. They look nice and have nice features, but when you caress them they feel cold and lifeless.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Buyer's Remorse posted by Bryant on 5/20/2005 at 10:30:12 AM
Let's look at what you found. Did the Miyata have QR Alloy wheels? That is worth the $15 right there. You are comparing a $15 thrift store bike to a Trek 700 Reynolds 531 frame? I would be surprised if it came out on top. I would be more than happy with what you found then the current glut of Huffy's and Murray's over here. I've never been one to obsess over the weight of a frame. I figure it's easier/cheaper/healthier for me to lose a pound than to find/buy a frame a pound lighter. I say take another look at the bike, if you still don't like it, fix it up and sell it for $60.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS: Buyer's Remorse posted by WArren on 5/20/2005 at 2:51:21 PM
Your Miyata is a mid/low quality frame.Triple/quad butted tubing is not superior to the premium double butted tubesets of Reynolds, Columbus, Vitus as well as Ishwata and Tange Champion. Nobody really ever said it was, it's just assumed by unknowing consumers.
However...many other Miyata's and other japanese marques are highly desireable and are of magnificent quality. Just keep looking.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Buyer's Remorse posted by Gralyn on 5/20/2005 at 7:53:56 PM
Don't feel bad: I've seen nothing but Murray's for a long time. Most of the time - nothing with drop bars. So I spot this Royce Union - 23" frame, decent tires, decent paint....looks to be from the 80's.....I decide not to bother with it.....but then it's I think....why not. So I pick it up. At first I notice Ofmega cranks. Some Italian-made wheelset......but then, I get it home and look closely.....the left crank arm only turned out to be Ofmega - a replacement. The right was some off-brand I had never heard of - and was cheap-looking. The front Italian wheel - turned out to be a replacement, too. The rear was really cheap - cheap hub - off-brand. The bars were steel. The shifters were plastic. The ders were shimano. The cogset looked halfway decent. The tires looked good. It had Lyotard alloy pedals with clips and straps. Well, for what I paid - it was well worth it for the pedals and the tires. I was certainly motivated by the price. Otherwise - I would have just left it there with the Murrays and Huffys.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS: Buyer's Remorse posted by jack on 5/21/2005 at 5:03:19 AM
I'm not complaining about 15 bucks...that'll buy you three lattes here in Calif. Fix it up and sell for $60?...problem with that is it takes me 4-6hrs to do that and the "profit" isn't worth it to me. I used to have a Miyata 1000 tourer which was a fine bike. This one isn't bad but not worth me fixing up so I'll probably wind-up giving it away. I wish I would have at least gotten Lyotard pedals.

I found a old 10 speed belgium bicycle. Tried to google the internet and found no results. Maybe someone out there can give me some info.
Manufacture - Cross Continental cycle co. (could also be Continential Cross)
Model - Rapidix
Weight - 25lbs.
other info:
Has a decal on the frame head with the following: Belgiuqe cross. Made in Belgium.
tire size - 27 x 1 1/4 x 1 1/8
Tire manufacture - Pneumatici clement
Derailer - Simplex
Not looking to sell, I picked it up at a garage sale for $5.00. In ok shape and tires still hold air and is rideable.

Any info would be great!.

Larry Barnes

AGE / VALUE:    posted by: Smitty on 5/18/2005 at 2:40:53 AM
Nice Carlton 6532944986 Ebay NMA

   Carlton posted by John E on 5/19/2005 at 4:18:38 PM
Very nice! Thanks for posting.

Fortunately, the frame is too tall for me. :)

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   deelite 10-speed posted by: mark on 5/17/2005 at 11:31:28 PM
does anybody know anything about a deelite 10-speed with 27 inch rims on it ?

      deelite 10-speed posted by John E on 5/18/2005 at 2:34:33 PM
That's a new one on me! It sounds like a basic entry level bike boom era 10-speed, but that's strictly a wild guess on my part. Please post more details, pictures, component list, frame decals/stickers, etc.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   deelite 10-speed posted by T-Mar on 5/18/2005 at 5:32:09 PM
Probably very late 1960s or very early 1970s. I've seen a few, but they were all entry level models. In Canada, the Deelites were imported by Fred Deeley, who also handled Apollo. For some reason, I seem to recall tham as Dee-Lites, but you should know better, as you have one in front of you. I had always assumed that the Dee came from Deeley. A dealer also told me that this was the original name for Centurion, but I have been unable to confirm the statement.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   deelite 10-speed posted by mark on 5/22/2005 at 8:36:21 PM
hey john-tmac it says on seat tube apollo,the shifter is on the bottom tube,it has diacompe brakes on it ,its a dark green color,the headbadge is a steel headbadge.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   deelite 10-speed posted by Edward in Vancouver on 5/29/2005 at 1:53:50 AM
T-mar got it right. Low grade bike boom 10 speeds imported by Deeley. Nowadays the Deeley name is alive with Trev Deeley, who deals exclusively with Harley Davidson...

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS: deelite 10-speed posted by Marc on 9/12/2007 at 8:35:25 PM
I have an Apollo "Grand Tour" with the Deelite steel head badge by Fred Deeley Ltd. A number on the bb shell reads: 568106. Any idea on the year this bike was made? It has bar end shifters, and an unusual 52/46 front with a 24-14 5 speed rear cassette.
Thanks to all for the conversation.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   deelite 10-speed posted by Nakedave on 6/13/2008 at 6:50:00 PM
I've just started reviving a bashed up Deelite. The frame had no componants on it when I got it but it fits 27" wheels. The brakes are dia-compe, the top tube sticker says Dee-lite but underneath it was an exact matching sticker that read Le Mans. The bottom tube sticker says centurion.