AGE / VALUE:Rudge Whitworth posted by: Andy on 6/8/2005 at 10:49:43 AM
Hello, got an old Rudge gents bicycle and after excavations i found the frane number: A 528378
Perhaps some of the specialists here could help me to date the bicycle.
Thank you

   RE:AGE / VALUE: Rudge Whitworth posted by sam on 6/8/2005 at 2:41:58 PM
Post this on English roadsters group,and check the rear hub---Sturmey archers have a date stamped on them----sam

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Rudge Whitworth posted by Tom McNary on 7/3/2005 at 3:45:50 PM
I own a Rudge Whitworth bicycle. I bought it from a college professor. He said he bought it mail order around 1949 and paid approx. $150.00 . I would like to know if it is worth anything.
Thanks, Tom

AGE / VALUE:Peugeot posted by: Jeff R on 6/7/2005 at 12:41:51 AM
I'm cleaning up a old Peugeot for a friend who is going to start riding again. He purchased the bike new around 1978. It has not been ridden in 10 years or more. We are trying to figure out what model it is. Besides the Peugeot decal there is a small decal that says CADRE ALLEGE. The frame is 25 and 1/2in tall from the center of the crank to the top of the seat tube. Its a 10 speed. 27 X 1 1/4 tires. The front forks are chrome plated at the lower end. The lugs are kind of fancy and highlighted with gold pinstriping. The brakes are center pull Weinman 610 and also say Vainqueur 999. Simplex shifters and derailers. It has a cotterd crank with 3 spokes that bolt to a Nervar set of chainwheels. The hubs are alloy high flange Normandy hubs. Can anyone tell me what model this bike is and how desirable it is? English bikes are my passion, so I don't know much about French bikes.

   RE:AGE / VALUE: Peugeot posted by jack on 6/7/2005 at 5:00:26 AM
Just the fact that it is about a '78 and has steel? cottered cranks indicates its a low to mid-range model and not worth a lot of money. That said, its still a good bike by vintage stds and if it cleans-up presentably, can be ridden with pride if the size fits.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:Peugeot posted by JONathan on 6/7/2005 at 5:06:21 AM
Nice find, indeed. Most likely a "U0-8" genre of Peugeot. Double eyelets on the forks and rear dropouts indicates the touring version, UE-8. Either way, the external-lugged frame is a nice ride. The Weinmann "Vainqueur" center-pulls are dependable stoppers. I can lock 'em up going downhill with 215# (me) on board! Pulled that number on my "80" Schwinn "Traveler" just yesterday. Actually, the brakes on the trav are clones of the "vainqueur"s made by Dia-Compe. I cannot tell any difference between the two makes..except maybe the Weinmanns look more polished up. You can shed the heavy Nervars and bolt up a Stronglite or Nervar cotterless
crank set with no trouble. Get a couple alloy rims on there, too, if you really want to ride smooth and light. Rigida and Araya (Japanese) are readily available...or go with Wolber "super champion" if you want a stronger wheel.
These are worth the small outlay to upgrade, as they are fine bikes despite the entry level status, which in my opinion was due more to the cheap componentry than anything about the frame or construction. Sheldon Brown articles on restoring the French bikes are a must read to get restoration started, as well as providing a ton of background info. Good luck,

   Peugeot posted by John E on 6/8/2005 at 10:12:29 PM
I concur with the other respondents. Yes, it is almost definitely a UO-8, yes, it is worth improving with aluminum rims and cranks, and yes, Sheldon's website is a recommended read. As discussion area regulars know, one of my commuters is a Peugeot UO-8 with aluminum rims and cranks and SunTour gears, including ratchet barcons.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:Peugeot posted by Jeff R on 6/9/2005 at 1:14:01 AM
Thanks for the info. The chrome and paint cleaned up nicely. The bike will be getting some new tires tomorrow. I think it will also be getting a new seat too. I hope I can get my friend back into riding again.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:Peugeot posted by Jeff R on 6/9/2005 at 1:29:49 AM
I just checked for fender eyelets and the front forks have double eyelets the rear has a single set of eyelets. I guess that makes it a UE-8.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:Peugeot posted by Ken on 6/9/2005 at 1:36:56 AM
fyi, I believe "cadre allege" translates to "frame guaranteed"

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:Peugeot posted by JONathan on 6/9/2005 at 4:48:41 PM
Thanks, Ken. You've helped to reduce my ignorance of bikes in a good part of my collection. The "Tube Special Allege" is another one popping up on the bikeboom models. The term seems to have vanished with the inception of the stickers; "Carbolite 103" around the early '80's. I have wondered if there is any difference worth noting in the actual tubing. Most of my "Carbolites" are of the internal-lugged versions, although one is lugged, I seem to recall.

   :Peugeot posted by John E on 6/9/2005 at 5:42:15 PM
Dual eyelets in front and single in back is consistent with the UO-8.

   Carbolite 103 vs. earlier carbon steel frames posted by John E on 6/9/2005 at 11:28:10 PM
I have owned two UO-8s and one internally lugged Carbolite 103 Peugeot (UO-9? UO-10?). The latter felt PERHAPS a bit deader and heavier than the former, but this is a highly subjective call.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:Peugeot posted by David on 6/24/2005 at 5:18:37 PM
Wow! I can't believe that I found this string. I just acquired this same bike free of charge. Saw it covered in dust in the back corner of the basement of my building. My landlord said it was left years ago and he was about to toss it. The bike is exactly as described by Jeff R but for a few things. This frame is painted yellow, the front fork is entirely chromed, and the front and rear derailluers are Campy Gran Sport. I assume that the Campy gear was added later. The serial number (stamped on the left chain stay) is Y710 28094. With these differences, should I still consider this a U08 or could it be a different model? I am confused by the serial number. One website indicated that due to the placement of the serial number and the "Y" prefix that this is a 1987 vintage. That doesn't seem right.

Any comments are appreciated. Thanks.

   RE:Peugeot posted by JJM on 6/29/2005 at 4:47:49 AM

   Mystery Peugeot posted by rw on 4/6/2008 at 1:53:06 PM
I am trying to decide whether to restore an old Peugeot 12-speed bicycle or simply sell it. It's pretty loose in the Bottom bracket and stamped there RY K4... no luck with finding a serial #. I live in Ontario, but its got "North Star Cycle - Vancouver" label on the vertical seat tube. It's an orange colour with black&gold striped Peugeot logo on Downtube. I thought its a PA-10, but its got 12 speeds and the SunTour Gear shifters are on Headset. ...anybody any ideas?


   RE:AGE / VALUE:Peugeot posted by Jeremy Sutton on 7/11/2008 at 10:29:44 AM
Howdy folks,

My sister inherited a U09 for college, but she rides a 52cm and this is a 57cm, hence I am selling it for her.

Here's the details . . .

Men's 23 inch (57cm) silver Peugeot U09.

Bike is in good condition, but requires (1) new front tire, (2) new seat cover, and (3) new bar tape. Bike would benefit for a "light" tune-up, very minor truing of wheels, and wash. Plus a light scrub with an abrasive pad to lift the very little surface rust. There are no dents or dings and the bike is absolutely straight.

Please let me know what you think the fair market value of this bike is.

I originally thought to list at $135, but then found at least three to four others online for $250 in USA and Canada.

Picture link below.

Thx in advance,



   RE:AGE / VALUE:���Peugeot posted by sandra on 7/11/2008 at 11:17:27 AM
I have a Cadre Allege I need to sell. How much should I sell it for?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:Peugeot posted by ryan on 7/11/2008 at 4:06:35 PM
i am in the process of rebuilding a early 70's peugeot pa10

i am having some issues assembling the hubs:
first question is how many balls go on either side of the front and rear hub?
how tight do i make the cones against the balls?
any info or links will be greatly appreciated!

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:can anyone drop some wisdom on this posted by: haglund74 on 6/6/2005 at 3:28:06 PM
I recently picked a bike up from a local thrift store and was woundering about any information on this bike,maker,year ect. I picked it up for $5.50 and it rides well but would really like to know more about it. Here is the description.
The decals read BROWNING MADE IN BELGIUM and there is a picture of a black birds head(possibly a hawk) and directly under that a spoked wheel.
the bike is a metalic flake gold brown and components are as follows.
Wheels WEINMANN 27 X1 1/4
by the rear whell SHIMANO SF is engraved in the frame
Handle bars PIVO
and the brake levers are WEINMANN DIA COMPE
i would apprectiate any help

   :can anyone drop some wisdom on this posted by John E on 6/6/2005 at 5:17:38 PM
It sounds to me like an early-to-mid 1970s basic bike boom 10-speed.
1) Which type of Nervar crank -- cottered steel, cotterless steel, or cotterless aluminum "Star"? The Star a very decent crankset with cranks resembling Stronglights and rings resembling early Campags, was used on mid-level European bikes of the period.
2) Are there any "tubing pedigree" stickers, e.g. Reynolds 531, on the frame?
3) 5-speed (I assume) or 6-speed freewheel?

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS: can anyone drop some wisdom on this posted by Warren on 6/7/2005 at 4:36:19 PM
I had a low end Browning wih Simplex drivetrain. Apparently they had 3 models during the bike boom. Yours could be the midgrade with the Suntour gears. Not likely a high end frame...does it have proper cast/forged dropouts with integrated hanger. If so, it's a better frame.The V GT Luxe is a very good derailleur. Could be a great ride.

AGE / VALUE:CCM Bicycle year? posted by: Gerald Machnee on 6/5/2005 at 5:01:06 PM
I am trying to find the year this bicycle was made. My father bought it in the early 1930's in Winnipeg. The front sprocket and wheels have been changed. It had wooden rims and a rear carrier.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:CCM Bicycle year? posted by sam on 6/7/2005 at 1:14:12 PM
Try Warren,on the english roadsters group.I got a 30s CCM frame from him----sam

   RE:AGE / VALUE: CCM Bicycle year? posted by Warren on 6/7/2005 at 4:39:46 PM
Couldn't see the pic...send it to me if you don't mind. Look for a serial number around the seat tube lug under the saddle.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:Olmo transfers posted by: Randy on 6/5/2005 at 7:07:22 AM
I was wondering if anyone here might know where I could find Olmo transfers or decals for about a early 1980's Olmo frame, I am wanting to refinish the frame but shure would look good if I could find something close to what it had on it. I check with cyclart and sounds like they won't sell decals unless they repaint your frame for you as most others I am thinking will tell me the same thing, if anyone knows where I might find some would be appreaciated thanks.