WANTED:   AVA aluminum stem & handlebar posted by: Kurt K. on 9/5/2005 at 11:41:26 PM
Wanted: One AVA aluminum handlebar and AVA aluminum stem as shown in the photos below (copy/paste link into browser):



Must be in NOS or excellent used condition.

Contact me at cudak888@aol.com if you have these parts.

Take care,


   RE:WANTED:   AVA aluminum stem & handlebar posted by David on 9/7/2005 at 1:31:10 AM
Is this the well-known "stem of death?"

   RE:RE:WANTED:   AVA aluminum stem & handlebar posted by Kurt K. on 9/8/2005 at 1:46:12 PM
Been told it ain't - supposedly the 'death stem' has the horizontal binder bolt.

In my opinion though, the stem design which I show above doesn't appear too strong itself either - and incedentally, the original AVA handlebar deformed slightly upon the left side, with a slight downwards bend.

I don't intend to ride this machine though, so if someone has either the bar or the stem...I want it.


VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   info about bike posted by: charles on 9/5/2005 at 5:12:36 PM
Hello all. I'm a beginning enthusiast with vintage bikes, and I'm trying to find out a little about a bike I just paid 50 bucks for. It's a Foremost. You have a picture in the photo database of this site of a black early 60's Foremost that may be a little older. Mine is red, and is a 5 speed with the shifter down on the lower bar by the front wheel (can we say dangerous??) It has a speedometer and headlight/taillight. I also have caliper brakes on the handle bars.

I want to know what year this bike might be, and a little about the company, collectibility, and whatever else might be known. I cant find much online.

maybe this helps: The underside of the top tube has a code scratched into it: CO234786217, then there's another number on the frame where the crank fits through: 13118

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS: info about bike posted by Warren on 9/6/2005 at 3:18:58 AM
It was likely made by another company and rebranded as a JC Penny. These bikes generally don't generate a lot of interest in collectors...no real documented company history or provenance.

Occasionally, nice bikes makes it into the department store models...Sears had a full 531 Ted Williams (?) bike with campy!


AGE / VALUE:Lenton For Sale posted by: paul on 9/4/2005 at 9:00:28 PM
!958 Lenton Grand Prix Reg Harris Model, full fendered Brittania Plastic off white, Dunlop steel rims 27 Inch, main tubes Reynolds 531, 22 inch frame, Sturmey Archer FM 4 speed internal, 3 cog cluster with single Williams chainwheel, Cycle Benelux derailleur single cable, original bar tape, greenish gold, great graphics, unrestored, good running condition, new rubber $475 includes disassembly, packing, shipping and insurance, continental USA only, payment by cash or money order. Picture by request. Thanks for looking! paul

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Torpado posted by: Gralyn on 9/4/2005 at 8:27:54 PM
A stroke of good luck yesterday: I'm out riding my Bianchi....I go by this small, part-time bike shop. On my way back by...I thought I would stop to take a look at the used bikes they had out front for sale. I had stopped by before - and I remember they had a ....I can't even remember now....a Peogoet, or a Nishiki.....it was OK....but it wasn't like great top-of-the-line either....it was old enough to have down tube, detent shifters...and I can't even remember if it had aero brakes....but anyway, they had it priced at $300. Way too much I think.

So, I turn in to take a look.....I see a few bikes there.....and I spot this Torpado! It gets my attention right away.....I hop off my Bianchi and go over for a closer look....and I look at the price.....it's $75.....So, I know nothing about Torpado....so as a good test....I pick it up to see how lightweight it is.....I swear - it was lighter than my Bianchi.....and full Campy equipped.....
So, I buy it....
....and I'm thinking....do these people have a clue?
...so when I return later, to pick up the bike - there's this old man in there minding the store......and he says to me....."You know what you've got there, don't you?" .....saying it a knowing way....and I knew he knew.....and I said "yes, I know".

Anyway, I know nothing about Torpado....other than it's Italian...and a very nice bike.....but I need to find out more - so I can decide on whether a full professional restoration is in line, or whether just the usual complete rebuild - like I always do (I'm really doing this anyway - I have completely stripped down the frame, cleaned and waxed the frame. I haven't started on the components yet.

So, where can I find information on Torpado? Serial number charts, catalogs, some means to determine which model it is, where it was in the line-up, etc.

There are some minor issues.....some of the lettering is missing in some of the "Torpado"....on the seat tube. I don't know much about the Italian components.....but going by the frame....brazed-on rear brake cable guides along the top-side of the top tube......fittings for 1 water bottle cage....6-speed rear.....maybe it's very early 80's?

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Torpado posted by Derek Coghill on 9/5/2005 at 11:20:57 PM
Went back later?

You mean you didn't ride home with one hand steering the other bike? Booo.....

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Torpado posted by Gralyn on 9/6/2005 at 2:00:40 PM
Actually, I paid most of the $ - then came back later, paid the remainder - then took it home.

I did comment to them that 20 years ago - I would have taken it home - riding my bike - while holding the bar of this one - pulling it along beside me. I've done it before - but it was a long time ago!

   RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Torpado posted by Mark C. on 9/8/2005 at 4:23:00 PM
Torpados are cool bikes. They were made from the early 1920's or so until the late 80's I think. One of the italian greats rode for them. Might have been Coppi. I found some info on them at the following website.


They have a lot of high end makes broken down by country of origin.

I picked up a Torpado earlier this year myself. While waiting for some chinese food, I looked in a local freebie paper and under a furniture classifieds ad was a sofa, chair and italian racing bike. Turned out to be about 8 miles from my work. Called the guy and he says come check it out and I'll make you a deal.

I figure its either way too expensive or the wrong size for me (I only seem to find frames too small or way too big). I get there and he says there's something wrong with the back wheel. I look and someone somehow had the chain doing a figure 8 when they tried to put the wheel on. It was it very good shape and even close to the right size for me. So I try not to let him see my anxiousness and he says make me an offer. I figure it can't hurt to start low, so as fast as I said $25, he says sold. I probably could have gotten it for 20 or less but I'm thrilled!. It turns out it is an early 80's Beta model and is light as a feather. Someone did replace the campy shifter parts but they at least put dura-ace parts back on. The lettering on the downtubes is banged up similar to what yours must be like. I'm thinking of making some tracings on new adhesive backed vynil and replacing the buggered up letters. Good luck with your Torpado!


   RE:RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Torpado posted by Gralyn on 9/8/2005 at 11:04:19 PM
That's one issue with the Torpado - the lettering down the seat tube.....I'm not sure exactly what process was used to put these letters on.....some of them look like they are starting to peel off....so maybe it's some type of vinyl-type decal think stuck on. You know, some bikes had a clear plastic decal - with the letters, emblems, etc. contained within the sheet of clear vinyl or plastic - and the whole thing was stuck onto the tubes........but these are like individual blocks.....with no plastic backing.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS: Torpado posted by Mark on 9/24/2005 at 4:44:39 AM
Hi, just stumbled upon this thread by accident! I'm a Torpado nut, and have lots of serial number data for the 1980s. They will be found underneath the bottom bracket shell. some are obvious as to year, and some less so. Color, serial number, specific frame features, and components will tell year and model. PICs are best, of course, and are also requested for my comparison library. Always happy to help when it comes to Torpados!

Ciao - Mark Agree, Southfield MI


WANTED:   Union spokes posted by: Maurice on 9/3/2005 at 5:13:58 PM
Looking for a box of UNION 308mm length 14/15 double butted spokes for my '72 Paramount P-15 - looking for the chrome plated original kind with brass nipples. Please email with what you have.