VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   61 Schwinn Varsity 10 speed posted by: Spike on 6/13/2006 at 7:20:31 PM
I just acquired this very presentable 61 10 speed Varsity.Ser # K143141 Paint scheme is identical to the early 8 speed Varsity this has stubby shifters on the stem with Heurett derailers.
Weinmann 820 calipers though front has been replaced.Pedals are what I call skeleton chrome plated steel without reflectors.
It has metalic Green handle bar wrap,looks professional but a little too new and an after market comfort seat.Typical head badge with white background and blue letering.
Can anyone tell me the correct wrap,what type seat,and if it came with gum wall tires or black wall or what?Any other trivia you may have would be nice too.I can email pictures if anyone would care to see it.
Thanks for looking


   RE: 61 Schwinn Varsity 10 speed posted by Eric Amlie on 6/13/2006 at 8:42:15 PM
Nice find. These are getting pretty rare nowdays. Check out this website. It should answer some of your questions. Try some of the links for gallery, catalogs etc.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   61 Schwinn Varsity 10 speed posted by Spike on 6/13/2006 at 10:30:21 PM
Upon closer examination I've discovered this had the early shifter setup with the rear shifter on the down tube and the front way down near the chainring.Someone changed it over to suntour stem shifters and a suntour front derailer.
Anyone know what might work to go back to the original setup or have stuff to do it with.
I'll check the info you suggested.
Thanks for the help.

   RE:   61 Schwinn Varsity 10 speed posted by Eric Amlie on 6/14/2006 at 3:29:28 AM
As always, ebay is the place to find the parts you need. I see the Simplex Competition "suicide" front derailleurs come up fairly regularly. I found one there for my 1960 8 speed Varsity. Do you still have the mounting tab on the seat tube for the front derailleur?

   RE:RE:   61 Schwinn Varsity 10 speed posted by Spike on 6/14/2006 at 12:09:53 PM
Yes both mounts are still there.What do you think would be the best search critera for both shifters.I assume I would need the actual front derailer as well.
Thanks again.

    61 Schwinn Varsity 10 speed posted by John E on 6/14/2006 at 2:37:07 PM
The original front derailleur/shifter is a single primitive unit comprising a lever, a pivot, and the cage. An eBay search for "Simplex" will often disclose one. The ones in top-notch condition are VERY expensive. The original rear derailleur would have been a bandspring/pull-chain Simplex in 1960 and a Huret Allvit in 1962. Because of the Simplex front, I am GUESSING that your original rear derailleur would have been Simplex, as well. (There is a great story in "The Dancing Chain" about how Keith Kingbay, father of the Varsity and Continental, got the Huret brothers drunk over a steak dinner in Chicago and convinced them to meet Lucien Juy's price on derailleurs. The 1960 Varsinentals came out with the already obsolete, greatly inferior Simplex kit because it enjoyed a $1.27 OEM cost advantage over Huret.

   RE:  61 Schwinn Varsity 10 speed posted by Eric Amlie on 6/14/2006 at 3:36:37 PM
I watch the Collectibles/Transportation/Bicycles category, and do searches for specific brands in the Sporting Goods/ Cycling category on ebay. I used to cover the entire category, but there are too many items on there now for me to spend the time to cover them all. I saw your front derailleur on there just recently, but I can't find it now. It must have ended already.

John is probably right that your bike still had the Simplex "Tour d'France" rear derailleur. There is a note in the June 1961 Schwinn Reporter that the Varsity has become a 10 speed, but it still has the Simplex derailleurs. The Continental now has Huret derailleurs operated via cables from downtube mounted shifters. The Feb. 1962 Reporter notes that the Varsity now has Huret derailleurs.


VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   campagnolo(?) posted by: Marinos Christoforou on 6/13/2006 at 4:31:16 PM
can somebody help me...?
i bought a bike and don't know its value. Its from a guy who collected bikes but unfortunatelly died. his wife doesnt seem to know much. don't know exactly how old is the bike but sure more than 20. Its fairly light i can say, there is extra coating on the joints of the boby, there is no brand name on the body, just at the ring which joins the stiring with the body it say "azzurro, made in italy" and some numbers, and also on the pedalls and the blade and all that stuff there says azzurro. on the things which change the gears, back and front it says campagnolo, and also on that which u use to change them. the stir is made from aluminium, made in italy. there are Altex saccon brakes. it has NISI rims and tubi oria tyres. there is a serial number under it but really dont know what i can do wioth that. Is there a way to identify the bike with that, or at least use it somehow..?
the bike generally is very stable in the street, i checked it and nothing is loose, like rims, or peddals, forks. the gears change easily and there is no disturbing sound when going.
can you help me on this?

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   campagnolo(?) posted by David on 6/17/2006 at 11:55:42 AM
Take some digital pictures and post them. I suggest photos of the frame; the bottom (where the pedals attach), where the rear wheel attaches, and the front of the bike where the tubes come together and the handlebars go in. The details of how the frame is put together are what would be interesting.

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS: campagnolo(?) posted by Marinos Christoforou on 6/18/2006 at 7:43:22 PM
Hey David, thanx for trying to help man. I uploaded some fotos in my space(, dont know how sufficient they are though, hope i took the right ones. For all of you out there if you can make out something about this bike let me know. What can i do with the serial number on the bottom? thanx

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS: campagnolo(?) posted by Marinos Christoforou on 6/19/2006 at 9:48:12 AM
I realized that on the bottom there's no serial number, just the indication 56. Where the rim attaches to the frame its is written "Gipiemme" and on many other places as well.
I dont really want to know its value in price but generally what is this bike, if possible.
can somebody tell me something about campagnolo...?

   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   campagnolo(?) posted by David on 6/20/2006 at 3:18:40 PM
Campagnolo is an Italian maker of high-quality bicycle components (and other similar stuff for cars and motorcycles). Gipiemme is another similar outfit. You seem to have a pretty good quality Italian bike, but I don't recognize it. Now that you have pix available, sign up for the Classic Rendezvous email list ( ) and ask about your bike there. I'm sure someone will recognize it and tell you all about it.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Indian Princess Bike posted by: Tera on 6/13/2006 at 6:26:16 AM
I just bought an Indian Princess bike. I know very little about it. It has the front plate on it and you can see a worn decal on the frame also. It is in good shape but the front fender looks to have been replaced with another. Is there a place I could find an Indain fender for it. Is this of any worth to restore? Would I be able to find new decals for it? I appreciate any help on this project. Thank you so much.

VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Sears free spirit 3 posted by: Nathan Bélanger on 6/12/2006 at 8:26:01 PM
How much would a Sears Free Spirit 3 sell for?


   RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Sears free spirit 3 posted by Douglas on 6/12/2006 at 11:11:27 PM
Just yesterday a woman called me up and offered me a his and her pair of Free Spirit three speeds for free, just come get them out of her garage. I routinely see this sort of bicycle at garage sales and while I used to buy them for no more than ten dollars,I can't be bothered now. However, I did accept those bikes when the woman offered to GIVE me ten bucks for my gas.

   RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Sears free spirit 3 posted by JONathan on 6/13/2006 at 2:18:01 AM
There were "Free Spirits" made in the '60's by Steyr-Daimler-Puch, the large Austrian company. These are fine bicycles that are lightweight , smooth riding and
very durable. The later ('70's and '80's) FS bikes were low-end bikes, but still OK. Most "give aways" are in need of considerable restorative effort and expense and therefore not worth much to someone who is capable and so inclined to take on the task. The other would be buyer/riders, want something that is ready to roll. Figure about $75 to $125 if the bike is reconditioned...if you can find a buyer. I see the bikeboom 3-speeds occasionally in a couple of shops that will sell secondhand bikes. These are usually about $130-$150 out the door, in good running condition. A free bike cost me about $100 (not counting my time) just to restore it , that's what a neglected bike requires. I pay retail prices for parts, unless I have something in a parts box, and tires. Frankly, most won't want to restore a Free Spirit, in my opinion, unless it needs very little besides lubrication and adjustment.
Do you have a picture of it? Look for "made in Austria" on the headbadge, and you have a decent bike.

   RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Sears free spirit 3 posted by Ken on 6/13/2006 at 1:44:21 PM
In the Chicago area, that bike wouldn't bring more than
$25 in perfect riding and cosmetic condition. People shopping for basic transportation can buy new bicycles for $75.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:VINTAGE LIGHTWEIGHTS:   Sears free spirit 3 posted by JONathan on 6/13/2006 at 9:00:08 PM
That's a good price! Things are a bit more out on the west coast. It could be that there are fewer out here. I must admit, the finds people report from dumps and curbside pickups have me perplexed to explain. It ain't happening around here. A wheel coast more than $25 out here.

AGE / VALUE:   help posted by: tom on 6/12/2006 at 7:17:01 PM
where can i find out how much my schwinn bicycle is worth. i have the serial number and everything but i cant find a site to tell me how much its worth.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   help posted by JONathan on 6/13/2006 at 2:24:45 AM
What model and year? You could try looking it up in the Schwinn "Lightweight Data Book" to find out the price when new.