AGE / VALUE:   expensive binder bolt posted by: Warren on 12/26/2007 at 12:42:36 PM
Wow...I'd like to find a few of these on my garage floor...

abay # 140191846033

What happened to "a rose by any other name..."

MISC:   VELOSOLEX PARISSIENE 1970'S posted by: howard on 12/25/2007 at 3:58:14 PM
any body have info on the type of metal used in the constrution of the VELOSOLEX PARISSIENE bicycle circa 1970'S
also its value

   RE:MISC: VELOSOLEX PARISSIENE 1970'S posted by Marc DeMaio on 1/4/2008 at 9:34:57 PM
I have one, bought new at the bike shop I worked around 1975. It's a fairly good common steel frame, nothing special, but with decent lug work. It was $159.95 new!! Mine is currently my seashore beater bike and has no original parts left, just the somewhat beat up frame. I do not imagine it has a lot of value. At the time it was the poor man's version of the Raleigh Grand Prix they sold. Apparently they mostly made mopeds, and produced this bike to cash in on the 10 speed cycling craze that was going on.

   RE:MISC:   VELOSOLEX PARISSIENE 1970'S posted by ronp6 on 1/5/2008 at 6:30:13 AM
I rebuilt a Parissiene for my brother-in-law because it was his first bike and he remembered it as better. He was given the bike by the US importer when new. It is plain steel and a long wheelbase bike. Photo attached

I have a VS Saint Tropez that was a Reynolds tube with Durofort stays, short wheelbase frame and light period components. Nice bike but too small for me at 54cm.

If either of you need It I have a NOS Nervare(sp?) chainguard for those bikes and a photoshop set of decals that are "close".



AGE / VALUE:   Is this a Follis, Gitane? HELP posted by: Mark Blaubach on 12/23/2007 at 5:55:10 PM
Please help me identify this bike. By the looks of the chromed fork and rear drop out ends, I think it's a Gitane.

The racing green paint appears to be original... since it is UNDER what's left of the decals. I can make out part of the word "SUPER" and "971" on the seat tube decal... and the fork decal reads "HAUBANS - BASES FOURREAUX" with another "971" beneath it. Think this means it's Super Vitus 971 tubing. It appears to be inch size (top tube 1", seat tube 1 1/8"). Hubs are 3 piece steel/aluminum.

The chromed dropouts are also Campy.The crank is Campy, arms stamped "Strada." The rear RD is Campy Neuvo Record with a 5-speed racing cassette. The cable holders, brakes, levers, seatpost, front DR, and hubs are all Campy. Headset is Stronglight. The seat is a brass riveted "Ideale 90". The rims are Fiamme.

I'm thinking this was a really high-end bike in it's day... as it really surprised me when I picked it up... only weighs 20 pounds.

It is in perfect working condition and appears to be all original spec. I was also really surprised by the smoothness and instant engagement of the rear hub... sounds and works like a Chris King.

So, what year/model is this? Approximately what is it worth?

Thanks in Advance!

-Big Mark


   RE:AGE / VALUE: Is this a Follis, Gitane? HELP posted by Warren on 12/23/2007 at 7:31:55 PM
It's a bit of a needle in a haystack, finding out what you've got there. There are a number of french bike enthusiasts over on the CR list. I believe the Tipo hubs should have a date stamp on the cone or locknut on either hubs. It won't give you the exact date for the bike but will certainly give you the earliest date.

Maybe the bike had those early 70's foil decals that always peeled off. Horrid things.

You can't really can't put a high value on the bike until you identify what marque it is. If it remains a mystery bike, I think it's value is around $400. Of course the value of the parts will exceed that but that's not a proper thing to do, is it?

If the marque can be identified, the value will go up. It's a classic french racing frame/fork with quality components, in what appears to be good original condition...except for the decals of course.

It's already been said that there were many french makers so you can't jump to conclusions without more hard evidence. Good luck.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Is this a Follis, Gitane? HELP posted by Mark on 12/25/2007 at 4:36:12 PM
More info... rear Campy DR is stamped "Patent 73" and I've found restored Follis with same color at
Anyone recognize this as a 73 Follis?

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Is this a Follis, Gitane? HELP posted by Warren on 12/25/2007 at 5:28:55 PM
There's two more examples here...

Your fork has a different crown than any of them. Same rake though.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Is this a Follis, Gitane? HELP posted by Mark Blaubach on 1/17/2008 at 1:04:04 AM
This bike is now on Ebay. See Item number: 110215613174 or


AGE / VALUE:   TRUE TEST BIKE MADE IN CHICAGO posted by: Jay on 12/19/2007 at 7:26:17 PM
Hello- A friend of mine just bought a True-Test Bike made in Chicago. It looks like a 50's made bike but it is loaded, I mean loaded. It has front and rear lights, turn signals, saddle bags you name this bike has it. It has been sitting for years but inside and is really nice condition. Has anyone ever heard of this make bike and maybe could have an idea what it might be worth ? Thank you in advance for any answers you might have. Have a Merry Christmas and A Happy New Year.

   RE:AGE / VALUE: TRUE TEST BIKE MADE IN CHICAGO posted by John E on 12/20/2007 at 9:12:51 AM
Please post over in middleweights or balloon tire forum, where the folks who really know bikes such as yours lurk. Season's Greetings!

AGE / VALUE:   16 in. hornet bike posted by: duane on 12/16/2007 at 8:19:37 AM
i have aquired a hornet 16 in. bike with hard rubber tires. it has chrome fenders , a solid metal seat. on the frame at the rear wheel it has the # 35.20 mo 820865. the rear wheel is a coaster brake made by torpedo.could anyone tell me about when it was made, by who and poss. its value. thank you duane

   RE:AGE / VALUE: 16 in. hornet bike posted by John E on 12/18/2007 at 1:54:19 PM
You may want to try the middleweights forum.