AGE / VALUE:   Need help identifying posted by: Mike on 1/10/2007 at 7:10:57 PM
Found an old bike and I can't seem to match the name on the bike to anything(brand, year, history, etc.) What I know and have is the bike has plate on the head tube that reads "Manafacturers Supplies Co. VELOX Philadelhia, PA." As far as I can tell there are no brakes, It has both leather seat and grips, and wood rims. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help identifying posted by Brian on 1/11/2007 at 5:19:13 PM
Collecting and Restoring Antique Bicycles by G.Donald Adams lists a VELOX made by Western Cycle Co., Salt Lake City Utah, 1898 that is the only listing I could find.

   RE:AGE / VALUE: Need help identifying posted by ralph on 1/12/2007 at 1:10:13 PM
do you have any pictures?

   RE:AGE / VALUE: Need help identifying posted by moe on 1/15/2007 at 7:30:48 PM
found a bike i think it says hermes then for sure it says england, it has its own lock on it and air pump.

MISC:   UO8 posted by: andym on 1/10/2007 at 6:12:19 AM
A Peugeot UO-8 sold on ebay last night for $410.00! I don't think PX-10's have been going for that lately.I could'nt get 200 bucks for my Px-10 on craigslist.

   RE:MISC:   UO8 posted by Gralyn on 1/10/2007 at 5:20:01 PM
That's amazing!
You know, I've been browsing through e-bay lately....and I have been totally priced out. I was really surprised at how the price of these old bikes has gone up.
Over time - I've picked up a bike here and there on e-bay, and a frame here and there. My most recent was a Miyata aluminum that I built into a decent touring bike. Now, I can't even afford an old gas pipe frame with stamped dropouts. ....and the shipping! Even if there is a bike or frame that may be at a low-enough bid - the shipping might be $70. Forget that!

   prices posted by John E on 1/12/2007 at 11:01:28 AM
Prices of classic bicycles and components have gone nuts over the past 2 years. Fortunately, I already have pretty much everything I need.

   RE:MISC: UO8 posted by Warren on 1/14/2007 at 5:19:38 PM
Thats the problem with auctions. They do not reflect reality and therefore they don't set universal values. An NOS UO8 isn't worth $400 unless someone wants it badly. Someone wanted it, badly.

   RE:MISC:   UO8 posted by Spike on 1/14/2007 at 6:04:16 PM
I stumbled on a deal on ebay right around the christmas/new years holidays.No one bidding; I got a very nice Mad Wagon Cruiser frame and fork for 99 cents.
Dealer said they typically go for $50-$60.
Not exactly a light weight but something to think about around the various holidays when we are looking for parts and such.

AGE / VALUE:   Information on Dawes (catalogs?) posted by: Dan McMartin on 1/9/2007 at 11:12:10 AM
I found what appears to be a 1950s Dawes Courier. Despite being submerged in a river (mostly mud) the frame appears to be in good shape, and most of the original components are there. Anyone have suggestions where I could find out more about this bike? There doesn't seem to be much out there on Dawes. has a few catalogs but none that go back that far. Any info appreciated

- dan

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Information on Dawes (catalogs?) posted by David on 1/13/2007 at 8:23:40 AM
Dawes is in business. Check with them:

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Information on Dawes (catalogs?) posted by Chris on 1/15/2007 at 1:45:47 PM
They are about all that is left.

FOR SALE:   soma 12 speed posted by: Rich on 1/4/2007 at 10:44:29 PM
hello folks-i am interested in soma bikes, i just got one and looking for some info on it before i sell it. its made in japan, tubing by soma-and its real light. email me, maybe i just want to keep it instaed! thanks

MISC:   Updating old bike? posted by: Abi on 1/4/2007 at 2:33:02 PM
I have recently bought what I think is a 1964 Claud Butler Super Coureur road bike. I'm wondering what people think about authenticity when it comes to replacing worn-out parts - should I be trying to keep new parts as authentic as possible, or should I just put new parts on it? It seems to have most of its original bits (the tyres and saddle are not original), but its paintwork has obviously been painted over in parts.

Thank you!

   RE:MISC: Updating old bike? posted by John E on 1/5/2007 at 8:34:36 AM
That's a tough call and a matter of personal taste. A visit to a local classic car show or get together will reveal everything from pure, authentic restorations to highly modified hot rods with modern engines, fuel systems, suspensions, and transmissions.

I have two circa 1960 Capo road bikes, one with almost all original components, the other with updated and upgraded cranks (ca. 1970 French aluminum instead of period-correct Italian steel) and derailleurs (still Campagnolo, but ca. 1980).

   RE:MISC:   Updating old bike? posted by David on 1/5/2007 at 3:48:23 PM
You won't have problems finding components that will work well on your Claud Butler (a very high quality bike, BTW). Hold on to all of the original parts you swap out so you can revert to them if you choose later or to include with the bike if you sell it. If you plan to ride it frequently, you'll probably do well to use parts that work well. Think hard about making irreversible changes. Congratulations on a good find!

   RE:MISC: Updating old bike? posted by Abi on 1/8/2007 at 2:27:39 PM
Thanks for your replies! Having examined the bike more closely, it might just be a case of making adjustments at the moment (I'm really impressed with the lack of wear on the chain, etc.), but I shall especially remember to keep any bits I remove from the bike; excellent advice - thank you! And thanks for saying it's a good bike - I really didn't have a clue.

   RE:RE:MISC: Updating old bike? posted by John E on 1/9/2007 at 8:40:45 AM
Measure the length of that chain. If 24 half-links exceed 12 - 1/16", replace it before it with an SRAM PC-58 or other modern "8-speed" chain before it damages your chainrings nd cogs.