MISC:   Any info on this old nishiki? posted by: Claes on 4/22/2007 at 7:12:18 AM

I just bought a old nishiki just because colour of the frame will be a nice match with a pair of red rims that I have. I wonder if anyone has info on the bike. I haven't got it in my hands yet so I cannot provide that many details yet.

The frame should be aerodynamic (even though it doesn't look like it from the picture) and should be named "Aero 11". Not sure if that is the tubing or the frame or what. It says 600 on the crankarms Ii.e. shimano I guess and on the the rear derailleur it says cnclone M-11. I guess that the seller means cyclone M-11. The shifters are suntour. Any idea of what model of nishiki it can be and which year?


AGE / VALUE:   Carlton "Ten" posted by: Dana on 4/21/2007 at 6:17:42 PM

Just got a Carlton "Ten". Carlton badge, decals still on it. Rust colored with a Brooks saddle. Does anyone have any information on this bike? I haven't seen anything resembling it so far.


AGE / VALUE:   need help identifying 'Cilo" posted by: Eli on 4/21/2007 at 4:43:40 AM
I got this beautiful 'Cilo' and i'm just trying to find out more information on the bike.. I know that they were a swiss company that went bankrupt in around 02'... I would love to know the make and model of it..if anyone has any info on how i can find this out...that would be absolutely wonderful.

   RE:AGE / VALUE: need help identifying 'Cilo posted by Warren on 4/21/2007 at 1:28:34 PM
There's two of them on ebay righ now. Maybe the sellers know more about them?

   RE:AGE / VALUE: need help identifying 'Cilo posted by b on 5/6/2007 at 4:13:38 AM
all informations

AGE / VALUE:   raleigh fenders posted by: vince on 4/18/2007 at 9:48:30 PM
does anyone know when Raleigh quit using the white on the bottom of their back fenders?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   raleigh fenders posted by Drew on 4/20/2007 at 12:02:12 PM
The 1977 Sports, Sprite and Tourist still had the white section on their fenders. My 1980 Sports fender was all silver, no white painted section. Therefor I'd say the late 70's was the end of it.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   raleigh fenders posted by Chris on 4/20/2007 at 1:34:17 PM
Last Raleigh tourist D.L.1. 28 inch rod brake bikes were then named the Royal Roadster and they had green paint all the way down to the reflector. I had the last one out of the last 7 to leave the Nottingham factory.

Powder coat paint and everything.

so before 1987 because 87 was the very, very end of the road for the rod brake 28 inch roadster bike. 1979/ 1980 was the end for the bikes being shipped to the U.S.A.

LATE 70'S yes, Drew is right.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   raleigh fenders posted by Bill Lanum on 7/28/2007 at 6:17:10 PM
Do you where I would be able to buy a 28 inch cruiser bike? I had one many years ago.
Many Thanks,

AGE / VALUE:   Bianchi road bike posted by: Scott on 4/18/2007 at 4:17:24 PM
Is there a way of telling the age of a Bianchi 10speed by the serial number? I don't have any pics of it yet but will describe it. It has Dia Compe brakes,Suntour 7 front and rear deraillers,Sugino crank set,Ambrosio rims. The serial number is LS282112. Not really interested in the value(I got it for free) just the age. If anybody can help it's you guys. Thanks

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Bianchi road bike posted by Gralyn on 4/18/2007 at 8:10:47 PM
I'm thinking that there isn't a way to tell by the serial number. I figured out the age of mine by looking at old catalogs. You can also tell by the components.....lots of the components will have date stamps.
.....but if there is a way to tell by serial number - I certainly would be interested, too.

Here are some catalogs:

    Bianchi road bike posted by John E on 4/19/2007 at 10:32:31 AM
Yours is almost definitely a Japanese Bianchi. Pictures and component date or number codese would be helpful. If the freewheel is original and really has 5 cogs, figure mid-to-late 1970s; by 1980, most production road bikes were 12-speeds. Sidepull brakes and low-flange hubs likewise became universal by 1980, whereas most high-end 1960s bikes had centerpull brakes and high-flange hubs.

   RE:AGE / VALUE: Bianchi road bike posted by R.D. on 4/20/2007 at 6:12:59 AM
Suntour "Seven" series derailleurs are found in catalogs as far back as 1976 and as late as 1987. Here is a list of derailleur models with some catalog dates -- "Seven GT 2321" (c1976), "Seven GT 2000 and 1200" (c1978) and "Seven-GT SN00" (c1987).

If the derailleurs are original, you can check the two digit date codes which can be found here:

Apparently these date codes were also stamped on Suntour freewheels on the outer bearing surface near the pin holes.

Also, some cycle forums have posts by a guy who has decoded Bianchi's 1980's serial numbers and is working on deciphering earlier and later codes so he is soliciting input from owners.

Hope this helps.

    Bianchi road bike posted by John E on 4/20/2007 at 10:46:39 AM
The serial number / date decode exercise is for Italian-made Bianchis, with the most prevalent theory being that the initial digit denotes the last digit of the year of manufacture and that the initial letter indicates either the month or the fortnight of production. This is consistent with my two personal datapoints: 1962: 2F51703; 1981: 1.M9914, but "your mileage may vary."

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Bianchi road bike posted by Scott on 4/20/2007 at 11:42:30 AM
I went to http://www.vintage-trek.com/component_dates.htm and found out that it was built in 1982.It IS a Japanese frame(serial number is on the underside of the BB.If it was Italian it would be up on the seat post somewhere.)I'm thinking the wheels aren't original units.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Bianchi road bike posted by Scott on 4/20/2007 at 12:37:24 PM
I've used that site(http://www.vintage-trek.com/component_dates.htm) to deciper some of my older middleweights' age.Thanks guys That is AWESOME.
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