AGE / VALUE:   liberia posted by: af on 7/4/2007 at 5:33:03 PM
I too have a liberia 10 speed I bought new in 72. It says made in Grenobe France and was bright orange with lots of chrome. Back then it set me back $125.00. Am in the process of restoring it so would love some feed back!

FOR SALE:   Trek 620 posted by: Christina on 7/3/2007 at 6:19:18 PM
Hi! We have a 1984 Trek 620 it is in great condition with only a handful of stratches and is otherwise in awesome condtion. The components are, shimano, sakae, dia compe, suntour, Matrix, continental. I am no bike pro, but do know this bike is a beaut! The tires are currently not full since i do not have the special valve needed to fill them. But this bike runs great! It is currently on eBay so if you are a serious buyer, email me ASAP 6 days left! My asking price is 450.00 due to the only defects being some stratches on the top bar!
Please email to: for pics

AGE / VALUE:   Wanting more info on an American Eagle posted by: Rory on 7/2/2007 at 10:43:11 PM
I have an American Eagle that I am trying to find out more about. It only has two gold decals. One that says "Made in Japan" and one "Double butted Chrome Molybdenume". The bike is in pretty good shape except for the chrome on the forks and crown. TIP: Don't get etching aluminium cleaner old chrome. It will get under the chrome and bubble it. :( I was hopping someone if I give you all the info I have, someone could give me more info on it. It seems to be all original. The front derailer looks a little out of place. If posible, I would like to know the year, model, how rare of a find it is and if it's worth enough to put alot of effort into restoring it. If anyone has a pic of one simular, that would be way cool. It's way to big for me so I'll probably sell it. I'll try and post a pic after I get it back together.
Thank you,

American Eagle
Color; White with two gold decals and half chrome forks
S/N; KS107150
Frame; 62cm C-C seat post, 62cm C-C top bar, Double butted CrMo(unknown maker) with wrap around seat stays and wccsc dropouts
Bottom Bracket; Sugino MW-68
Headset; unknown, no markings of anykind
Cranks; Sugino Mighty Compe, 171 length, 48t-54t chainrings, Kuokoto Pro Ace road quill pedals
Wheels; Araya light alloy, sunshine 5345 high flange hubs, 4x ss spokes
Freewheel; 8.8.8. Pro Compe 14-18-22-27-34
Handlebars; KB Champion (randonneur touring style oddly long), Compe stem
Derailers; rear Suntour GT, front Suntour "spirt" (That's how it is spelled)
Shifters; Suntour ratchet Bar-ends
Brakes; Dia-Compe centerpull
Seatpost; Tailhel Compe
Oh, and cool little wires that scrape the gravel off your tires

    Wanting more info on an American Eagle posted by John E on 7/3/2007 at 12:29:19 PM
You have a late 1971 or early 1972 American Eagle Semi-Pro, which was later rebranded Nishiki Semi-Pro and ultimately Nishiki Competition. The CrMo frame tubing was made by Ishiwata. I bought mine, serial number KS78091 new for $150 in March 1971, with many of the same components, but with downtube shift levers and a 47T inner chainring. The barcons were introduced roughly a year later, if I recall correctly. Mine had the same funky randonneur handlebars and SunTour "Spirt" normal-HIGH front derailleur as yours, and the same wheelset you describe. I replaced the original 27x1-1/4" gumwall tires with 27x1-1/8" skinwalls and built a second (tubular) wheelset with Fiamme gold-label rims and Campa. low-flnage hubs.

I rode mine for 40k miles / 65k km and 20 years, until the bottom bracket shell broke at the seat tube lug.

   American Eagle posted by John E on 7/3/2007 at 12:46:26 PM
Additional recollections: Although I rode it "fat, dumb, and happy" for 20 years (including a double century in 1972), I grew to realize just how dead the frame felt, compared to some of the better European offerings. By the late 1970s Kawamura was building world-class framesets under the Nishiki and other marques, but the American Eagle Semi-Pro was arguably the first halfway decent mass-produced bike exported to the U.S. from Japan.

   RE:American Eagle posted by Rory on 7/3/2007 at 7:56:49 PM
Thank you for the info, John! I rode this bike off and on for about three years even though it is way too big. I always thought it was a very un usual bike from the time I first saw it. Part of the components, like the lack of a deraier hanger, say low end, but the barcons and cranks say something else. It really isn't to heavy for a great big bike with heavy touring wheels. I really liked it for back and forth to work. It's kind of slugish, but so am I on the way to work. I actually got kind of used to the "funky" bars and have thought about cutting off the extra length and putting them on an '83 720 Trek I'm rebuilding. I have it all apart right now and I'm trying to decide whether to part it out or not. How long did they build them under the American Eagle name and how uncommon have they become? I wouldn't wanna put alot of effort restoring a bike that isn't worth anything. If it wasn't so big I would just restore it and ride it.
Thanks again,

   American Eagle posted by John E on 7/6/2007 at 2:17:26 PM
West Coast Cycle Supply began importing Kawamura frames under the American Eagle marque ca. 1968, with just two models: the heavy all-steel "gaspipe" Custom Sport and the Semi-Pro. By the time I started working at Bikecology in mid-1972, they had begun to use the Nishiki brand name, instead.

The reasons you can ride a large early Nishiki frame are that the top tube is unusually short relative to the seat tube and the bottom bracket is pretty low. I rode a 23" Semi-Pro, which was 3.5cm taller than my ideal 55cm C-T size, and I actually ended up using a long-reach stem.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Wanting more info on an American Eagle posted by Doug in Silicon Valley on 7/7/2007 at 8:22:14 AM
I have one too, circa '71 I guess, and on a hunch did a google and found this site and topic, wow. I bought it for about $160 in Champaign, IL. It's still functional, and was thinking of just giving it away, I might fix it up just for grins. At the time the sales pitch was it a Japanese clone of the Schwinn Champion or some such, their $500 top of the line road bike. We all bought them because they were light and affordable and had decent gears, etc. Way before all the current sophistication. Thanks for sharing, I'm going out now to clean her up...

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Wanting more info on an American Eagle posted by Rory on 7/7/2007 at 11:35:14 AM
You came to the right place. John E seems to be the only one around that has the stats on this bike. I'm for sure not going to say they were the greatests bikes, but mine had a very smooth and stable feeling. Actually kind of slugish. At the time I was riding it and a Peugeot with 700x20 tires. They were like night and day. It was almost always my choice when I just wanted to get from point A to point B. Sometimes you just want to kick back, drink your coffee and put some pavement behind you.

   Compe stem for American Eagle posted by Paul on 7/14/2007 at 7:06:01 PM
I have an American Eagle Semi-Pro that I bought in 1975. Lots & lots of miles on this bike, which I have always really enjoyed riding. Sadly, last time I hopped on it, the Compe stem fractured at the handlebar clamp. Anyone have an idea where I could get a replacement?

   RE:AGE / VALUE: Wanting more info on an American Eagle posted by Kevin on 7/26/2007 at 7:43:27 PM
My dad bought a bike before I was born (1971) and he never throws anything out. I just got off the phone with my mom and I had her go check the bike. She said all that is on it is Eagle Deluxe Cycle and a sticker that says made in Japan. Any idea if this is the same company you guys are talking about?

Should I ask her to go take pics and send them to me?

AGE / VALUE:   40s era favorit (no e) road bike posted by: Bill Rountree on 7/2/2007 at 11:26:25 AM
Hey Warren. Can't upload pix to the site at this time. If you send me your E-mail address, I can send you some shots.

AGE / VALUE:   favorit bikes co. posted by: Bill on 7/2/2007 at 8:07:56 AM
Thanks WArren.I actually found a bunch of info on the co.Been building bikes since 1870's.They also made handguns... Wow.Used to be a prestigious bike name. It was bought out years ago, and now makes mostly cheapo kids bikes.Quite a few people are collecting, and restoring the old ones apparently.They all said pretty much the same thing. "Ride like a dream".
I'll try and get a picture, or two on here this afternoon, or tomorrow.Thanks.