AGE / VALUE:   Tomos Bicycle posted by: Mary on 8/26/2007 at 6:28:12 PM
Hello! A great trip to the Goodwill today. What did I see out of the corner of my eye, but a vintage blue bike that needed someone to take it home and care for it. :-)
I checked it out, the chain was good, free wheel good, Cogs all good, spokes all there, tires flat but good, fenders and rack good. So I gave the lady my $10 and took it home, scrubbed it up and found this out:
1. The brand is Tomos
2. Made in Yugoslavia
3. Dated at 1970 on the rear axle
All I can find online about Tomos is that they make mopeds.

Please, does anyone have any information about this bike or the company that made them? Perhaps a value to the bike?
I can try to upload a picture if that would help.
Thanks everyone,
Cheers from rainy and cold Washington!

   RE:AGE / VALUE: Tomos Bicycle posted by Mary on 8/26/2007 at 6:39:11 PM
Oh yeah, sorry...
It has one handlebar brake and coaster brakes and is one speed. The tires are 26 x 1.75 and the seat is San Marcus.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Tomos Bicycle posted by Mary on 8/27/2007 at 9:07:30 AM
Here is a photo.


   RE:AGE / VALUE: Tomos Bicycle posted by John E on 8/27/2007 at 1:35:18 PM
Hello Mary. Please repost under middleweights, where you are far more likely to get constructive responses to your inquiry.

AGE / VALUE:   Mystery Dawes posted by: stu on 8/24/2007 at 1:06:09 PM
Good morning!
New to the group as I just found a nice old Dawes at a yard sale last weekend and trying to discover the vintage. It has some nice features such as headtube oilers with Cloisonne headbage, Alatet headset, Simplex suicide shifter on front and a 4 speed cluster/fixed hub (Normandy font and rear)with a very vintage Simplex Juy shifter(like a Tour de France?)with the stop having a spoke holder on the chainstay, Baylis Wiley BB with a nice lockring feature, etc. The frame is deep blue, with a white headtube and white on the seat tube. Any ideas what it could be? I have posted some pics if you want to see it.Thanks!


   RE:AGE / VALUE: Mystery Dawes posted by Warren on 8/24/2007 at 2:24:48 PM
I'm no expert but I'd guess that it's mid to late 50's. Really ineresting bike...nice find! What are the bars, stem, hubs and brakes?

The Simplex derailleur may help you date it...look here.'hadland/schmitzderailleurs.html

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Mystery Dawes posted by stu on 8/24/2007 at 2:48:33 PM
Hi Warren,
Thanks for the reply and the help on potentially dating the cycle.The serial numbers are stamped on the left rear dropout, but I haven't found any reference anywhere to dating by numbers.The bars have some nice engraving, but I can't see a maker yet as I haven't unwrapped them.the brake lever have a good quality Dawes vinyl cover.
the stem is marked GB and is made from the exotic forged alloy Hiduminium! The hubs are high flange Normandy with the rear having a fixed gear on the left and a 4 speed cluster on the drive side, so with the suicide shifter for the double chain ring its a very modern 8 speed. The brakes are Weinmann 730's. It also has a nice discreet bottom bracket oiler on the left side.It doesnt have original rims by the look, but they are 27 x1 1/4.
I looked at Tonys's site re the derailleur but still haven't found the exact one yet. It is a single cable system, marked Juy Simplex. The seat post is not original, but the saddle is a Brooks Professional,going through an application of Proofide.

Thanks again for your help. I'll probably gently tear it down this weekend and see what other treasures I find!

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Mystery Dawes posted by Warren on 8/24/2007 at 5:24:02 PM
Great score, a real keeper. The parts you mention are all desireable, not that you would part it out. Shame about the rear mudguard...Bluemel Tour de France or something more exotic like Lefol? Frankly, this bike looks like a traditional french or italian bike. If it wasn't for the Dawes headbadge and lampbracket on the right fork...

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Mystery Dawes posted by stu on 8/25/2007 at 8:27:24 AM
So you don't think $3 was too much to pay at the yard sale?

The fenders on the front have 3 stars with some ornate filigree around the mounting bracket, same for the rear sans the stars.May be able to salvage and remount on some new fenders.

Looking forward to the project, should be fun.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Mystery Dawes posted by Warren on 8/25/2007 at 5:56:55 PM

You'e killing us Stu...

    Mystery Dawes posted by John E on 8/31/2007 at 8:52:34 PM
How is it geared? I love half-step, specifically something like 49-46 / 14-16-18-20 or -21.

   RE: Mystery Dawes posted by Stu on 9/12/2007 at 12:04:53 PM
Hi John, Sorry for the late reply, got sidetracked on a few other projects. The gearing appears to be 49-46/15-17-19-22. That make any sense?I saw a nice Dawes, similar in colour scheme,for sale on Ebay in England, but no real details. Thanks for asking!

WANTED:   32h/40h rims posted by: Jack Anderson on 8/22/2007 at 7:33:21 PM
I need a pair of 27" European-made alloy clincher rims, 1960s vintage or earlier, a 32-hole for front and a 40-hole for rear. I plan to mount 28s or narrower tires.

   RE:WANTED: 32h/40h rims posted by Warren on 8/23/2007 at 5:46:16 AM
There weren't too many brands making those wheels before the 60's in alloy. Maybe Constrictor but they will be big dollars.

Even steel Dunlops aren't easy to find.

   RE:WANTED:   32h/40h rims posted by Jack Anderson on 8/23/2007 at 9:38:30 AM
Anything up to about 1970 is fine. I am thinking Weinmann Concave, for example. Weren't they made in the 60s? I am not looking for anything too exotic....

   RE:WANTED: 32h/40h rims posted by Warren on 8/23/2007 at 5:50:06 PM
Weinmans did come in 32/40 I believe. Great rims too.

   RE:WANTED: 32h/40h rims posted by sam on 8/27/2007 at 9:56:17 AM
Super Champion model 58(I think that stands for 1958 but not positive)40 hole tandem rims can be found not sure about the 32s.36 can be found.Wolber took over the super champion line and made model 58 rims for a number of years.At present Sun rims come 32/40s in 27".

   RE:WANTED:   32h/40h rims posted by Jack Anderson on 8/31/2007 at 8:21:28 AM
I have just found a 27" 40-hole Wolber M59, which is black anodized with machined sidewalls. Now to find a 32h version of the same, if possible. I'd still like to find an older 32/40 rim set in plain alloy, as well -- the Sun rims would be practical, but I am trying to keep the bike in question "European," if I can. Either 27" or 700c would be okay, as long as the model was made around 1970 or earlier. I am surprised at how hard it seems to be to find what I am after!

AGE / VALUE:   steel LOOK frames posted by: jp on 8/21/2007 at 10:52:56 AM
Did LOOK make steel frames in the 80s, before they developed their carbon frames?

WANTED:   Raleigh Grand Prix Info Wanted posted by: Mike on 8/19/2007 at 6:35:12 PM
Threaded Hub????
I recently pixed up a very clean Raleigh Grand Prix 10 Speed Rd Bk. I am quessing its from the 70's. Serial # starts with 28. It has a 5 speed freewheel but i noticed the other side of the hub is threaded also. I have also seen this on an older Ross as well. Can anyone let me no what these unused threads are for.
Thanks in advance, Mike

   RE:WANTED: Raleigh Grand Prix Info Wanted posted by Warren on 8/21/2007 at 5:37:46 AM
This hub came up for discussion a few weeks ago. This is likely a Brompton flip flop hub made in the old skool style. The other threads usually take a fixed cog and lockring. This hub style hearkens back to the days of path bikes. Not valuable item but a conversation piece just the same.

   RE:WANTED:   Raleigh Grand Prix Info Wanted posted by Mike Baldwin on 9/1/2007 at 4:11:59 AM
I salvaged a steel BROMPTON (clearly marked) flip/flop hub.

One side was standard ISO threading, the other French. It was built with a steel, 27" REGINA rim, with what I'll call "braking enhancements" on the rim sidewall.

I was impressed with the hubs "robust" heft and high quaility chrome. I believe this hub is similar to the one Sheldon Brown used on his fixed gear tandem build.