AGE / VALUE:   Rossin Record posted by: Philip on 1/7/2008 at 11:12:59 PM
I have a Rossin "Record" with Campagnolo parts. I tried to find information about its worth on this site and elsewhere but am not having luck. Anyone with ideas? I would be grateful

   RE:AGE / VALUE: Rossin Record posted by Warren on 1/8/2008 at 5:02:46 AM
Raossins were great bikes...popular in the 80's and 90's. Classic "handmade" italian bikes and geometry, I've only ever seen Columbus tubesets. I almost bought one in 96 and wish I had.

They were sold in Toronto by La Bicicleta. Maybe they have more info on them? They have Rossin frames listed on their web site but they are currently carrying no stock.

Value is typical of other nice italian bikes...components condition and desireability factor into it.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Rossin Record posted by Ron on 2/17/2008 at 7:47:42 PM
I also have a 1984 Rossin. I bought it new and continue to ride it extensively. It is red with Campy dropouts, chrome fork and chain stay, Columbus tubing. It is a very comfortable bike. I continue to ride distances and it does very well. Starting to show wear and age, has some rust on brake cable stays and shifer braze ons.
I am not sure of it's money value, but I have been stopped many times with riders wanting to look at it. I am thinking about having it restored: painted and new decals

MISC:   Single speed on eBay posted by: Joe on 1/7/2008 at 11:05:06 PM

Check out the price it sold for. Maybe I shouldn't be ignoring all the department store brands in trash piles when I go hunting?

   RE:MISC:   Single speed on eBay posted by David on 1/8/2008 at 4:03:28 PM
20 bids! I guess a good listing helps more than I thought. Luck, too, I'm sure. I'm just surprised anyone lavished that much attention on a junky frame with no assurance it would sell.

   RE:MISC: Single speed on eBay posted by Warren on 1/8/2008 at 4:26:31 PM
Private listing...I think it's bogus with shill bidding.

   RE:RE:MISC: Single speed on eBay posted by Joe on 1/9/2008 at 12:17:42 AM
I sort of was thinking the same way, but the sale did end, and the seller at that point would be responsible for the final value fees. It's not the first bike he's had listed that's gone way too high. Not such great feedback either. I can't imagine someone running several auctions and shill bidding them up like that only to have to pay eBay's commission on that amount. The ironic part of it isn't that the seller listed such a bike, its that someone some how thinks its was worth $242.50.

   RE:RE:RE:MISC: Single speed on eBay posted by Warren on 1/9/2008 at 5:51:38 PM
Shilling works and it's rampant on ebay. If a low end beater sells for more than a 531 Raleigh Super Tourer, it proves the old saying that there's a sucker born every minute.


   RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC: Single speed on eBay posted by Joe on 1/11/2008 at 7:34:57 AM
I saw that Tourer, I'd have bid on it myself if it were larger. I did consider buying it for it's parts, but I'd hate to part out a good bike that someone can still use.


   RE:MISC: Single speed on eBay posted by Walter on 1/12/2008 at 5:59:37 PM
There certainly could've been shilling involved but you have to consider the quality of the listing itself. Lots of good pics, professional shop background, very good word choice in the description (nothing blatantly false but some "exaggeration" to be sure.

Definitely silk from a sow's ear to be sure. I haven't seen one of those dep't store "gooseneck" stems since, well since I was young enough to ride a few bikes like that.

(Not that I'm nostalgic)

MISC:   Information wanted: Valgan Chambord posted by: Tom Stormcrowe on 1/6/2008 at 6:15:20 PM
Has anyone ever come across a small European (French, Belgian or Spanish) Frame builder that manufactured a bike called the Valgan Chambord? 1970's vintage and extreme attention to detail in the construction of this bike. I can't find any info on the bike nor can the owner. Is this from a small custom shop?

   RE:MISC:   Information wanted: Valgan Chambord posted by Scott on 9/3/2008 at 9:15:59 PM
I just trash-picked an old white road bike/ ten-speed with the name Valgan on it. I have pictures if you would like to see it:


AGE / VALUE:   How to Value Bikes? posted by: TimW on 1/6/2008 at 1:44:28 AM
Hello bikesters. I have come around to deciding to sell my most valuable bikes - really there's no sense them sitting around my house. I have several that are well-known and prized vintage lightweights / club bikes, and one 1950s bike from a high-end maker that is entirely unique and loaded with desireable parts.

So in order to sell them, how do I determine value and what is the best web site or approach to get their fair value. Any good tips are much appreciated.

   RE:AGE / VALUE: How to Value Bikes? posted by Warren on 1/6/2008 at 7:58:18 AM
Haven't seen you around for awhile Tim. Take detailed pics or everything of course.

I'd love to see your list of bikes of and would be happy to give you an opinion as well as directing you to other enthusiasts for advice about specific marques.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   How to Value Bikes? posted by David on 1/6/2008 at 10:13:22 AM
You can learn a lot about their possible value from following Ebay auctions.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: How to Value Bikes? posted by TimW on 1/20/2008 at 12:44:52 PM
Thanks Warren. Yes, I bounce in and out of using this site - life is too full of other things I want / have to do. I'll list what I want to sell here soon - some nice bikes! Tim.

WANTED:   Nishiki frame (only) sold around 1977 posted by: Steven on 1/5/2008 at 8:15:00 PM
Hello everyone,
I'm looking for the full name or the actual road racing frame imported by Nishiki around 1977. It was a very high quality frame in a light brown color and, at least, was sold by Bikecology Shops in Santa Monica, CA. It has 74 degree parallel angles,16 inch chain stays, a beautiful fork bend,"vented" BB, Suntour veritcal drop-outs,and the lug and tang work was perfect(no gaps).

Any memories or sellers? I ride a 60 CM.
Thank you very much, Steve Preston

   RE:WANTED: Nishiki frame (only) sold around 1977 posted by Joe on 1/5/2008 at 9:00:32 PM
If memory serves me right, the top of the line about the was the Professional, then the Competition, Olympic or International, then the Custom Sport and Sport. I've seen the International model in brown and blue, but I can't remember a brown in the Pro. I currently own a blue International and a champaign Custom Sport, and a Burgundy Sport. I did at one time own a slightly later Olympic, and I don't recall that having a cut out bottom bracket either.

The International, does not have a cut out bottom bracket. I am not sure about the Competition frames.
The Competition had been both their number two bike and later on I believe it came back as a number three from the top model.
I believe there used to be a few guys here that were more versed on the Nishiki bike lineup that may be able to clarify a bit.

   RE:WANTED:   Nishiki frame (only) sold around 1977 posted by David on 1/6/2008 at 10:12:29 AM
My 76 Nishiki brochure has only Competition, International, and lesser models. Competition is double-butted with wraparound seatstays. It appears to have eyelets on the fork and dropouts. Supplied w/27" clinchers - probably not the bike you're looking for!

   RE:WANTED: Nishiki frame (only) sold around 1977 posted by Joe on 1/6/2008 at 2:10:18 PM
Check out this link, there's several pics of various models posted.'skoop/nishiki/


   RE:RE:WANTED: Nishiki frame (only) sold around 1977 posted by David on 1/12/2008 at 7:27:02 AM
As usual, replace the apostrophe in the given link with a tilde (the uppermost-leftest key on your keyboard)