AGE / VALUE:   Victoria 10 speed posted by: jean-pierre parent on 4/6/2008 at 2:17:11 PM
My landlady has this beautiful bike hanging in her garage and was going to sell it for $20 when I STOPPED her!!! I thought I'd get some info about this bike so I could pass it along to her. It says "made in west germany" (in english) looks to be from the 60's or so, and is green and gold and just gorgreous. anyone have any insights, we'd appreciate it! i have pics i can email.


AGE / VALUE:   Mystery Peugeot posted by: rw on 4/6/2008 at 2:12:54 PM
Help... started spring cleaning and am deciding what to do with my Second-hand Orange Peugeot 12-speed racer... restore it or sell it? It resembles a 1966 PA-10, but it's got 12 speeds and the SunTour shifters are on headset...(wierd).. .also the air pump brackets are located on the downtube. Its got a black&gold striped Peugeot logo on the downtube also. The bottom bracket is pretty loose and its got RY K4 stamped on it when I turned the bike upside down. ... no luck with finding serial # though... the seat-post tube has 'North Star Cycle - Vancouver' label on it which makes me wonder what kind of shady past this bike has had - since I live in Ontario... Anybody any ideas? Thanx..


   RE:AGE / VALUE: Mystery Peugeot posted by Warren on 4/6/2008 at 4:44:23 PM
I'd say it's early 80's and don't restore it. There's too many of them around in better condition for less money than it will cost you to restore it. Put your efforts into something more collectable.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Mystery Peugeot posted by rw on 4/7/2008 at 7:34:06 AM
OK. but what year is it? I checked thoroughly all the pictures on the peugeotshow website (a link from and did not find any of the models there with the distinctive hook or bracket on the downtube for the air pump. I don't know what Peugeot models have this distinction. Other than that, why are the shifters located on the headset? All the pics I browsed through have the shifters on the downtube.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Mystery Peugeot posted by Gralyn on 4/7/2008 at 12:30:41 PM
It looks kind of like a U-08. I see a lot of rust on the fork crown and other areas. It would be quite expensive to restore - and then not worth the money you put into it afterwards. I know during the 1970's there were a lot of bikes with stem-mounted shifters. Many of the Schwinn's had shifters up at the stem - but they were actually mounted to the head set.


   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Mystery Peugeot posted by Warren on 4/7/2008 at 4:28:16 PM
I understand your desire to find out everything you can about this bike. That's what we all do. But this genre of Peugeot is so ubiquitous that it's practically ignored by collectors. That may seem odd but it's close to the truth. It's very likely, the most mass produced "lightweight" bike ever. The pump pegs were made from stamped steel. The stem shifters were a late 70's thing so it may date from then. They weren't a great idea.

It's not a unique, older frame dressed up with unusual components. The headbadge is modern as is the rest of it. If it fits, tune it up and ride it until it's dead. These bikes are just fine as riders as many on this list will agree.

About 2 years ago, I parted with a 9.5 outa 10, pristine circa '67 AO-8 (predecessor to your bike). I'm sorry I did because it really was sweet looking, better made than most 70's models and I only got $100 for it. If you put $600 into chrome, paint, decals and parts for your restoration, it likely wouldn't get $100. Bikes need real pedigree to have value. We're not getting rich from this hobby.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Mystery Peugeot posted by ken on 4/10/2008 at 11:10:37 AM
from the angle the photo allows, it appears to me as though it may have have downtube shifters originally- isn't that a brazeon next to the cable stop clamp on the downtube? Mid to late 70s - even if it was stem-shifted originally, it probably started out Simplex- the Suntour would be somebody's upgrade.
As Warren says, they made an awful lot of cheap bikes, and continued to use parts and designs long after they were outdated. I have pictures of a touring mixte with the same lugs and stamped pump pegs- let me know if you want to see them.
The lugs are cool, ain't they?

MISC:   CCM Track Bike posted by: Drew on 4/6/2008 at 5:57:19 AM
Looking for any history or details on a early CCM fixed gear track bike made in Weston Canada circa 1920 ? - wood rims - Persons Racing saddle - racing bars - BSA chainring (skip tooth). Looks very original. At first I thought it was an Iver Johnson since it came with a I J training stand, but I carefuly removed the silver repaint on the seat tube revealing a CCM decal. Paid $125 at a local flea market this morning.

   RE:MISC: CCM Track Bike posted by Warren on 4/6/2008 at 12:39:54 PM
Great bike...likely a CCM Flyer although the BSA chainring is a replacement. Here's the date codes...

the serial number should be near the seat lug. Give me the year and I'll send you a scan of the catalogue pages. I've got a lot of info on these. CCM made some of the best track bikes in the 20's and 30's. Send me an email.

AGE / VALUE:   a well made ross? posted by: Kurt on 4/5/2008 at 7:54:02 AM
A few years ago i bought a "ross" bike. after further inspection of other ross bikes... i feel mine is distinct. it has very neatly welded lugs... tapered to the tubes... 024 ishiwata cromo dbl-butted tubes.. the headset sticker, bottom tube decal, and steel sticker are all original looking. the color is a funky muted green gray. like i say i feel this bike is not your average ross, anyone have a clue?

   RE:AGE / VALUE: a well made ross? posted by kurt on 4/5/2008 at 8:30:37 AM
this ross frame has a number stamped to the bottom bracket... i suspect it is for the local authorities...but could it be a serial no.? 0582100691

   RE:AGE / VALUE: a well made ross? posted by Warren on 4/5/2008 at 1:18:03 PM
Even Huffy contracted out some higher end road bikes for race teams and promotions. The Ishiwata 024 butted tubes puts your bike at the medium to high end bracket. If there's a K prefix on the bottom bracket I suspect it was made by Kuwahara. Decent frame means a decent bike. Dress it up in Suntour components and you've got a classic japanese ride.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   a well made ross? posted by Joe on 5/9/2008 at 1:21:37 PM
Ross Signature bikes are generally of nice to outstanding quality. The best were built under the supervision of Tom Kellog or Jim Redcay. These are painted one solid color. The Taiwan bikes have contrasting color head tubes and Ross engraved on the seatstay caps.

WANTED:   Shifter Cables for a Lark W derailleur posted by: Morgan on 4/3/2008 at 7:53:15 PM
I just purchased an old western flier bike and am super excited for it. But I discovered that it has the old push-pull derailleur and I need to get new cables for it. They have the two ends on them. Any ideas on how I can rig something up, or where I could buy some from?