AGE / VALUE:Raleigh from 1966-ish was originally a 5 speed posted by: Peter on 7/12/2008 at 3:53:28 AM
I have been going through some old bicycle stuff of mine and I started thinking about my Dad's old bike. I'm trying to figure out what it is/was... He says he bought it somewhere around 1966. It was originally a 5-speed. It had cotter-type cranks and a single shifter on the down tube. In the late 80's when I was riding competitively I "upgraded" has bike for him with new cranks (a double) and a new rear derailleur. images of bike (with close-ups) can be found here:


AGE / VALUE:   Cadre Allege posted by: sandra on 7/11/2008 at 11:17:57 AM
What is the value of a Cadre Allege Peugeuot

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Cadre Allege posted by ken on 7/18/2008 at 10:44:48 AM
I'm pretty sure 'cadre allege' is French for 'frame guaranteed', loosely. It's found on millions of Peugeots of every description.

MISC:Identification of Claud Butler posted by: Simon on 7/10/2008 at 2:30:27 PM
I rescued an old frame from the dump this weekend. It has been hand painted over. It has a Claud Butler badge rivetted to the front. It has a grease nipple on the LHS of the frame at the bottom bracket. I reckon it could be 70s -80s. Anyone know how I might be able to identify it?

   RE:MISC: Identification of Claud Butler posted by Warren on 7/10/2008 at 5:51:00 PM
The grease nipple indicates earlier although it's possible that they had those in the 70's.

CB's were mass produced in moderate numbers. Generally good quality or better though. If it's a 531 butted tubeset, it should have a 27.2 or 27 mm seatpost. The frame and fork will weigh less than 5 lbs. Close up pics of the lugs, drop outs and a serial number should help you find out more info from Claud fans somewhere out there.

   RE:MISC:Identification of Claud Butler posted by K Body on 7/11/2008 at 10:18:26 AM
If the top tube is 1.125 inch diameter then it is bronze welded made by the original Claud Butler, who also made genuine lightweight lugged frames with butted 531.
I believe early 1960's the name was bought by the Holdsworthy Co. (wholesalers, who produced cheap frames with 3 main tubes in plain G 531. internaql diameter of seat tube will confirm this.

   RE:RE:MISC: Identification of Claud Butler posted by Warren on 7/11/2008 at 3:41:12 PM
Acually, if it's older, it could weigh up to 6 lbs.

AGE / VALUE:Bottom Bracket thread size posted by: Travis on 7/9/2008 at 4:21:27 PM
I just picked up a Jeunet frame and need a bottom bracket.I was wondering if anyone knew what size I would need to thread into the frame?The Frame is Red and says Jeunet Franche-Comte and has simplex stamped on the drop outs. I got the frame for 30$ ,is that a reasonable price?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:Bottom Bracket thread size posted by Gralyn on 7/9/2008 at 8:13:02 PM
It takes the French thread size bottom bracket. I'm not sure what numbers are associated with the thread - but most common bottom brackets (English thread) won't fit it.


   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: Bottom Bracket thread size posted by Warren on 7/11/2008 at 2:35:24 PM
With Simplex stamped dropouts, it's likely a very nice frame. A steal at $30.

Find a bike shop that has old Peugeots in the basement or check ebay. There's lots of them out there. Likely millions.

AGE / VALUE:self extractors? posted by: jason on 7/9/2008 at 12:21:03 AM
just found a 85 Miyata 1000, and was getting geared up to work on the BB. It has shimano biopace triple cranks, and the nut is a 8 mm hex with a separate ring that takes a pin tool to remove. looked at some manuals, and saw the self extractor that looks just like what I have here, but it shows it on the octalink system, but I doubt that this is octalink(though it could be, I don't know as this is the newest thing I have ever worked on. when did shimano introduce that?)
Did shimano make a self extracting bolt for a square taper? or could this just be a cosmetic thing?

I am worryed that i will strip out the hex if the cranks are oxidized on at all, will soaking in penetrating fluid for a while help at all on cranks?

I may bite the bullet and take it to a shop, as I really don't want to ruin anything. will check out sheldons pages, but hought I would throw it out here to. thanks, jason


   RE:AGE / VALUE:self extractors? posted by jason on 7/9/2008 at 2:35:27 PM
well, I figured it out, just used my regular crank puller
my worry was that THis bike was outside for a few years and did not want to risk anything being stuck, but everything came off sweet and clean
I can see how in the field it may be worth a chance to use the extractors, but in the shop with good tools not worth it at all.

my confusion was from Bicycling magazines manual, it worded it like the octalink was the only thing with these bolts.
I still think that the old glens is, while outdated, the ultimate teck manual. wish there was a new one of that quality

for what its worth, this is an incredible bike, touring geometry, triple butted, put seventy pounds of gear on it and it rode great.