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Archived: Musclebikes (Sting-Rays, Krates, Choppers, etc.)

WANTED:   Background Information on Swing bikes posted by: Brandon on 12/19/2000 at 11:32:17 PM
I need some information on Swingbikes....Who made them, Where are they from, approximate years of production runs, different models ie; 3spd, coaster, and namees. Do they really steer in the front and rear? And if so, HOW? I would also like pictures of any if anyone has some.

   RE:WANTED:   Background Information on Swing bikes posted by RC on 12/20/2000 at 6:25:42 AM
Hi Brandon,
Bob Hufford is the swing bike man. His web site has all the information you could ever want. Here ya go, RC

   RE:WANTED:   Background Information on Swing bikes posted by Joel on 12/20/2000 at 10:49:30 AM
There's another Swing Bike website too but I don't know the address off hand. They were made in 76 & 77. They are all single speed coasters with a front hand brake. They came in green, orange, yellow, and blue. Early ones have a chainguard and seem to be pretty scarce. Another company made 26" Swing Bikes for a while but they went under a couple of years ago. (info on Bob's site).

The frame has two parallel tubes with a steer tube at each end. The seatpost acts as a stem for steering the rear and there are springs going from the rear triangle to the frame to keep the back end from totally going nuts. The rear end can be locked into a fixed position.

I ride mine more than any of my other classics. It's a blast.

AGE / VALUE:   AMF Roadmaster Rengade III posted by: RC Coleman on 12/19/2000 at 5:06:13 PM
I have an AMF Roadmaster Rengade III (Similar to the Stingray) that I got for my 13th birthday in 1966. I would like to get it roadworthy againg but I can't seem to find any parts sources. Where can I find new tires other than BMX ones? Also, I need a rear rim for the shimano 3 speed rear wheel as mine is severely bent. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, RC

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   AMF Roadmaster Rengade III posted by JimW. on 12/20/2000 at 7:57:07 AM
You're in luck, RC. Lowrider bike parts sources, especially http://luxurylowrider.com have lots of musclebike bits
and pieces. Luxlow has NOS and new import sliks, for example. I'm not sure if they have rims, but somebody does,
for sure.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   AMF Roadmaster Rengade III posted by RC on 12/20/2000 at 8:22:55 AM
Thanks, Jim! I recently found my old Renegade in storage. I forgot how rough I was on it. But it would sure be great to ride it again. Thanks, again. RC

   RE:AGE / VALUE: AMF Roadmaster Rengade III posted by leif on 12/22/2000 at 1:13:50 PM

Don't forget your local bike shop! They can get any of the
bits for you that you need. I was quoted $45 for a 20" rim
in chrome laced to a Hi-Stop coaster brake. You might also
want to check www.danscomp.com. They are all BMX, but 20"
freestyle tires are great for street use. In addition to
www.luxurylowrider.com, try www.lovelylowrider.com too!

Good Luck!


   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE: AMF Roadmaster Rengade III posted by RC on 12/23/2000 at 7:29:55 AM
Hey, thanks Leif. I'll check it out. RC

AGE / VALUE:   shifters posted by: david on 12/19/2000 at 8:31:06 AM
i have some shifters for sale, i have a 5sp screamer and a few 3spd with the brake,also a 5sp huffy and a 3sp sturmey
(looks like went on a reliegh)
thanks david email with ????? pictures available

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   shifters posted by joe on 1/3/2001 at 12:23:57 PM
what shifter are still available ???????????

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   shifters posted by david on 2/15/2001 at 10:09:25 AM
I have a few of the first screamer type and a taller murray style 5 speed

WANTED:   decals posted by: david on 12/19/2000 at 8:28:15 AM
can any one tell me where to get decals for a huffy rail,murray elemanitor,schwinn fast back,
thanks david

   RE:WANTED:   decals posted by Tim P. on 12/19/2000 at 2:25:54 PM
Have you tried Pete at Hyper-Formance??

   RE:RE:WANTED:   decals posted by david on 12/21/2000 at 4:40:10 AM

   RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   decals posted by Brandon on 12/21/2000 at 8:30:28 PM

AGE / VALUE:   Mattel Silver Star posted by: Steve on 12/18/2000 at 11:31:08 PM
I have a Mattel Silver Star all chrome bicycle in perfect condition....the bike is all chrome and even has the origional tires. I believe it was made in 1964 but may be mistaken...any info on this bike would be appreciated...I know nothing about bikes and for those of you who do I am sorry if I asked in the wrong forum...not for sure if my bike would be considered a muscle bike. ...Thanks.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Mattel Silver Star posted by char on 12/19/2000 at 3:40:26 PM

AGE / VALUE:   fairlady posted by: rusty on 12/16/2000 at 7:37:22 AM
fairlady. me again, i also have a purple/pink fairlady i found i fixed it up for my 9 yr old (she is now ten and wont ride it, not cool for her, what a sham she dosent know what she is missing) All i did was new rubber, sos the rims,and rehookup a shifting chain in middle of hub, paint has normal wear and tear . i looked up the # and it was made in 72, whats the value? 1972 fairlady schwinn stingray 3 speed?

AGE / VALUE:   thunderbird bike posted by: rusty on 12/16/2000 at 7:28:54 AM
I bought a bike that looks like a stingray but it has thunderbird on it and it is made by kentucky bluegrass , i got it at a garage sale its in very good cond, any one have any info on it and the value?, thanks for any help, rusty

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   thunderbird bike posted by Brandon on 12/16/2000 at 9:46:51 PM
If you can e-mail me a picture, I will put it up on my forthcoming Musclebike site, and I could compare it to other bikes I have on file. It is a cantilever frame I presume?

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   thunderbird bike posted by Kevin C. on 12/17/2000 at 5:41:12 PM
Blue Grass bikes were distributed by Belknap Hardware Co. in Louisville, Ky. Belknap went out of business in the 1980s after about 140 years in Louisville.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   thunderbird bike posted by Chris C. on 12/20/2000 at 6:35:55 AM
I have seen other Bluegrass bikes which appeared to be mfg'd by Huffy. If you can post the serial number, I might be able to tell if this bike was built by Huffy, and if so, an approximate age.

AGE / VALUE:   GOOSENECK DATE?? posted by: STEVE on 12/16/2000 at 2:23:43 AM

FOR SALE:   Recumbent Chopper Bike posted by: Tom O~Hare on 12/15/2000 at 7:21:16 AM
Unique, one of a kind Recumbent Chopper Bike for sale. I will email you color photos upon request. Only $300.00

   RE:FOR SALE:   Recumbent Chopper Bike posted by Joel on 12/15/2000 at 2:35:34 PM
A recumbent chopper??? I can't even form a mental image. I'd like to see the picture.

   RE:RE:FOR SALE:   Recumbent Chopper Bike posted by JimW. on 12/20/2000 at 8:00:30 AM
BikeRod&Kustom would also like to see it.

   RE:RE:FOR SALE:   Recumbent Chopper Bike posted by JimW. on 12/20/2000 at 8:02:40 AM
BikeRod&Kustom would also like to see it.

MISC:   1965 J-38 lime Stingray posted by: Michael Montanez on 12/13/2000 at 3:53:52 PM
Does a standard J38 (without fenders) have a standard colored chainguard or is it slikscreened within a white backround, like the deluxe, I'm restoring one. (the Liz Fried Stingray book shows one with a standard screen job...) I just thought I'd check...Thx MM

   RE:MISC:   1965 J-38 lime Stingray posted by Kevin C. on 12/14/2000 at 9:37:56 AM
It had the standard paint job.

   RE:MISC:   1965 J-38 lime Stingray posted by fred on 12/25/2000 at 9:25:47 AM
What is the difference between a krate and a lime Stingray?

WANTED:   seat posted by: mike on 12/13/2000 at 1:21:03 PM
help, i need a seat and bar for a sears screamer 2

FOR SALE:   Odd Offbrand Musclebike posted by: JOEL on 12/13/2000 at 9:49:44 AM
For Sale: Murray-built musclebike made for Golden Flake, a potato chip and snack food maker in the southeast. It is a cantilever frame coaster 20" bike, cool yellow/red/yellow fade paint in great shape except for some chips, nice chrome, needs a new red Troxel seat, pedals, and appropriate tires to be complete. Any reasonable offer or trade accepted. Pictures are posted at www.angelfire.com/dbz/forum/ in the Musclebike section.

   RE:FOR SALE:   Odd Offbrand Musclebike posted by Joel on 12/18/2000 at 9:21:25 AM
Someone asked so I will clarify....By "Reasonable" I mean anything that will cover the cost of shipping and the small amount that I paid for it.

AGE / VALUE:   24/26in. musclebikes? posted by: Brandon on 12/12/2000 at 9:31:04 PM
Does anyone have any information about musclebikes in sizes larger than 20in. ? I know of a bare frame, no fork/seat/decals that appears to have sissybar tabs and resembles a late model Screamer. But, it has a longer wheelbase and has enough room in the back for a 26 in. wheel. The frame is, however, the same height as a regular 20in. frame of this style. Did anyone else make any bikes in this size range? Any help would be great.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   24/26in. musclebikes? posted by Carl on 12/13/2000 at 5:46:49 AM
Schwinn Manta Ray, Sears Spyder, Fleet Tiger Cat...
There are pictures in the Picture Database. Also run a query for 24" front wheels in the Stat and Features database.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   24/26in. musclebikes? posted by Brandon on 12/13/2000 at 12:16:46 PM
Thanks Carl, I still haven't found anything that resembles it yet.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   24/26in. musclebikes? posted by Brian on 12/29/2000 at 11:59:36 AM
Is there any paint on the frame? Sears made a 24" Wild Thing (1spd yellow and green fade),
Wild Thing III (3spd, Red to yellow, and Wild Thing V (5 spd, Blue to silver fade (I think), all out of early Screamer frames.
Pretty cool bikes if you ask me. I have the I and III bikes, and am looking for a V.
Also interested in any other 24" muscle bikes out there for sale, and any info on them.
Happy Holidays,

MISC:   THANKS TO ALL posted by: BRIAN M. on 12/12/2000 at 7:24:50 PM
I would like to take the time to tell everyone here how impresssed I was with help you all gave me.I posted a question on 12-04 about my reproduction Sting-ray.I was very reluctant because I have seen the reaction from other persons on another site. They are all over people asking questions.I don't know if they are defensefull in fear new people or just tring to make themselves look supreme. You all stepped right up and helped me with concern, and made me feel welcomed here. THANKS TO ALL!!! Keep up the good work!! Brian M.

   RE:MISC: You're Welcome, Brian. posted by JimW. on 12/13/2000 at 8:24:47 AM
I also agree with you. All the lists on this site are patronized
by fine, helpful people. I think most of the credit should
go to Vin. From the beginning, he's stressed the importance of
civil discourse and helpfulness, and it's continued that way.

That other list does seem to bring out a lot of meanness in
some people, although I must say that the majority of
correspondents there are also fine folk, many of whom also
are found in these lists. We tend to remember the nasty
bits more than the nice ones, though.

AGE / VALUE:   16 and 20" Rail NOS tires posted by: Joe on 12/9/2000 at 4:52:59 PM
I have NOS tires. The rear reads Sears Linear Thread White raised letter 1 3/8. The front read Linear 990. If interested email me directly.

Thank you.