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Archived: Musclebikes (Sting-Rays, Krates, Choppers, etc.)

WANTED:   stingray runabout posted by: Patrick on 5/15/2000 at 7:28:29 PM
I am looking for a stik shifter, rear slick tire, and fenders for my 1968 schwinn stingray runabout. Can anyone help me!? Please!


   RE:WANTED:   stingray runabout posted by CAROL on 6/28/2000 at 9:57:05 PM

AGE / VALUE:   Pea Picker posted by: Mike Q. on 5/15/2000 at 10:00:31 AM
Last weekend I came across a near mint Pea Picker 5-speed. Everything is complete and original, even the tires. Chrome and paint are in excellent shape except for a few scratches on the chain guard. Seller wants $1300. Is this a fair price? Too much? Seller says it was her son's, who died a number of years ago, and it's been stored away for most of its life.

Thanks for any info.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Pea Picker posted by Peter on 5/16/2000 at 5:55:56 AM
At $1300.00 that would in fact be a very fair price. Go for it(immeadiatly). I had one as a kid my father got at a police auction. I loved it. Regretfully, I sold it at a garage sale for a mere $25.00. Oh the stupidity...

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Pea Picker, and expensive pea to pick these days. posted by ChristopherRobin on 5/17/2000 at 7:52:29 AM
One thousand three hundred dollars?? Good heavens to Merkatroid!!! I cannot believe these really go for this kind of cash but they do!! I love finding these for $50.00 but lets face it, this will happen less and less.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Pea Picker posted by Bob on 5/17/2000 at 12:02:18 PM
It better be NICE for 1,300. Average ones sell on EBAY for 5-800 range. But if it really is a NIIICE one that has not been ridden much and is in GREAT shape, that should be a fair price.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Pea Picker posted by Kevin C. on 5/17/2000 at 5:26:47 PM
That's probably too much money if you are planning to resell it. But if you're a collector, finding a nice, untouched Krate is not easy to do and that price isn't too far off.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Pea Picker posted by Conrad on 5/19/2000 at 9:56:43 PM
If its a '72 with a disc brake setup its worth it. If its not a disc, then I would agree with the $800 price range.

WANTED:   Huffy Sling Shot Gearshifter posted by: Peter on 5/15/2000 at 9:22:30 AM
I need a gearshifter for a Huffy Slingshot Style bike. My Huffy does not have small tire in front(has a reg size tire) like the Slingshot does but it is still a 5-speed. I do not know if it came with a parking brake like a Slingshot.I will consider any condition of the part so long as it works. May also need a rear derailer. Thanks-Peter (562)596-7267

   RE:WANTED:   Huffy Sling Shot Gearshifter posted by Conrad on 5/19/2000 at 10:05:23 PM
What kind of Huffy 20x20 is it? The Rails,Judge and Stilleto all came wirth a regular single stick 5-speed shifter. The Twin Stick 5 20x20 came with the Slingshot style shifter w/brake.

   RE:RE:WANTED:   Huffy Sling Shot Gearshifter posted by Peter on 6/8/2000 at 3:27:42 PM
It does not have a name on the chaingaurd. About the closest model I can relate it to is a Judge. There is no parking brake on this model
I think. I hope that helps. I'm desparate. any help , greatly appreciated. Thanks

MISC:   Thanks Jeff! posted by: Wings on 5/14/2000 at 9:42:35 PM
Thanks for the info on 20 inch S2 rims. One just sold on Ebay for $100. Rim only.

   RE:MISC:   Thanks Jeff! posted by Jeff on 5/15/2000 at 5:34:36 AM
Happy to help.
Now where is my commission? ha ha !

FOR SALE:   1971 Stingray Fastback posted by: Mike on 5/14/2000 at 10:35:42 AM
March 1971 Stingray Fastback, Sky Blue in excellent condition. Check it out, ebay item # 332392075

MISC:   3 Schwinn's I've got posted by: Scott F. Archambo on 5/13/2000 at 7:03:06 PM
Hello all; I own 3 Vintage Schwinn Bicycles!
The first one is a 1967 Schwinn Fastback 5spd. Stick Shift w/ a S-6 rear rim.
It's got the extended front forks so i think this one may have some special value. I'm in the the process of restoring it
and taking my time. Serial no.JC80312
The second one is a 1969 Schwinn Fairlady that will be restored in due time. It's pretty much all there so it will be a
fairly easy restoration. Serial no. BE41247
The third one is a 1969 Schwinn Varisty 10spd. that's in rough shape but is mostly all there. It will require more time to
restore than the others but i think it'll be worth it. Serial no. EE69020
If anyone has some info. one these other than this site pls. reply. I'll need all new decals for all of them so i look forward
hearing from people.

   RE:MISC:   3 Schwinn's I've got posted by kevin c. on 5/14/2000 at 4:50:02 AM
I'd skip the Varsity unless it has sentimental value to you. You can easily buy the entire bike, in good condition, for less than the decals will cost you.

   RE:RE:MISC:   3 Schwinn's I've got posted by Jeff on 5/15/2000 at 5:38:04 AM
A '67 Varsity recently went for $107 on Ebay and it wasn't in very good condition.

I think the pre-early-1970s-bicycle-boom Varsitys are moving up.

   Schwinn Varsity posted by ChristopherRobin on 5/15/2000 at 8:21:27 AM
Oh, I do not like the Varsity and Im sorry guys, but I would not even stop and trash- pick one of these up. Thats just me.
Question? How many of you would pass one of these up? and how many of you would stop and pick it up and bring it home. Would you let it go to the garbage truck? Let us know, If it were free?

   RE:Schwinn Varsity posted by JOEL on 5/15/2000 at 10:00:36 AM
I don't care for them myself, but if it was a pre-boom era varsity, I would Definitely pick it up. Prices are starting to go up. Also good for parts. The deraleur fits a sting-ray.

   RE:RE:Schwinn Varsity posted by Kevin C. on 5/15/2000 at 6:22:19 PM
I would probably not pick up a 1969 Varsity unless it was especially clean or had a tall frame. The early stuff is a different story. I have an eight-speed Varsity and two early ten-speed Continentals with suicide shifters. All are pretty cool and already are pretty collectible.

   RE:RE:RE:Schwinn Varsity posted by MARIA on 5/16/2000 at 6:37:06 AM
What is a suicide shifter and what makes it special? I thought only Stingrays had those, but a varsity is a racing bike, no?

   RE:RE:RE:RE:Schwinn Varsity posted by Kevin C on 5/16/2000 at 3:32:41 PM
I think you're thinking of a Stik shift. The suicide shifter is a shift lever down by the front sprockets on an eight-speed or 10-speed. You have to reach way down there to shift the front chainrings, hence the "suicide" nickname.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Schwinn Varsity posted by Wings on 5/18/2000 at 9:10:02 PM
I buy them for under $8 all the time. Great source of parts for other Schwinns. I see them in Thrift stores at times for as high as $80 and as low as $2. Some people are starting to think they are collectable. One did sell for over $200 on Ebay awhile back--perfect shape and it was old. Schwinn made so many of them and they are so durable --they are still all over the place.

AGE / VALUE:   identify my bike posted by: big dog on 5/12/2000 at 6:16:05 PM
I have a 16" girls sting ray (red) how do I identify what year and the name of it???????

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   identify my bike posted by Scott F. Archambo on 5/13/2000 at 7:29:30 PM
Look on the rear part of the frame where the wheel slides in. On one side or the other there should be a series of Letters and Numbers. This is your serial number. Using the provided info. in the Serial No. chart on this site you should be able to determine the year and month built. Hope this helps yoou out.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   identify my bike posted by Wings on 5/14/2000 at 9:35:39 PM
Older numbers are on the left chainstay at the axle or on the bottom of the bottom bracket (crank) hanger.
From 1965 and newer they are on the right side of the front head tube. There are two letters followed by digits. The first letter is the month. The second letter is the year. A = 1965; B = 1966 and so on.

AGE / VALUE:   Kickstand removal (help)! posted by: Dan on 5/11/2000 at 10:14:40 AM
Am new to this, could use some help. Just bought a stingray to restore. Is there any way to remove kickstand with out the special tool for this. Don't want to chew up the frame in any way

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Kickstand removal (help)! posted by Gordon on 5/11/2000 at 10:47:00 AM
I made my own removal tool from an old seat post. I cut off a piece about 1 1/2 long from the large diameter end. This is approx. the diameter of the kickstand bushing. I then cut a piece about 3/8 inch wide out of the side of the 1 1/2 piece. This leaves a "C" shaped tube. Fit the tube againest the bushing. The side slot goes over the kickstand itself. Using a 4 inch C-clamp, I put one end against the back of the kickstand bracket, the other on the "c" tube, and tighten slightly. This relieves the spring pressure and allow removal of the pin. Works great.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Kickstand removal (help)! posted by Joel on 5/11/2000 at 1:08:41 PM
You can also do it with a large channel lock pliers and a nut or washer for a spacer. Place the spacer on the edge of the spring on the kickstand side, cover painted areas, grab the spacer and the other end of the kickstand holder with the pliers, SQUEEZE, and pull out the little pin that holds it together. This method is well illustrated on MNSmith's website. Don't have the URL but it is posted many times on the Schwinn restoration forum at www.schwinn.com.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Kickstand removal (help)! posted by Gordon on 5/11/2000 at 3:48:00 PM
Marks' site is:

He knows of my method and he said he figured it would be easier than trying to hold the little nut while trying to grip it with the pliers.

MISC:   ever heard of this one? posted by: john on 5/10/2000 at 11:08:41 PM
anyone ever seen a bike called "the conqueror"? i've got one and it's
pretty cool. it's an orange 3 speed boy's bike with a fat slick. also,
i really like the less expensive odd ball muscle bikes and projects.
if anyone has anything interesting let me know. i've got a late 40's to early
50's zenith balloon tire bike that i would like to trade
for a complete musclebike of equal value.the seat is nice, it has
a tank. nice handlebars. let me know. thanx.

   RE:MISC:   ever heard of this one? posted by Gordon on 5/11/2000 at 9:13:11 PM
Is your Zenith a boys or girls? I have a Coast King with 3 speed Shimano stick shift.

   RE:RE:MISC:   ever heard of this one? posted by john on 5/11/2000 at 11:16:29 PM
it is a boys. is there anywhere i could see a pic of what a coast king looks like? thanx, john.

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   ever heard of this one? posted by Gordon on 5/12/2000 at 5:15:28 AM
I'll see if I can get a picture posted tonight. (It is snowing right now!!) It looks a lot like the rest of the muscle bikes - banana seat, ape hanger bars, shortie chrome fenders. It has 1960's license stickers.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   ever heard of this one? posted by Gordon on 5/12/2000 at 3:18:23 PM
Here is pic: http://www.dia.net/'gbradbur/ckeagle.JPG
If this site reacts like it normally does, it will have replaced the tilde in front of "gbradbur" with an apostrophe.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   ever heard of this one? posted by john on 5/12/2000 at 6:44:42 PM
no luck with the picture sight. could you possibly e-mail it to me?
thanx, john.

FOR SALE:   Checkerboard Mirror posted by: DAN on 5/10/2000 at 4:00:06 PM
I have an original checkerboard mirror. Used but nice shape missing the Stingray sticker. Please contact if interested, not cheap. Cash or trade for early BMX stuff. DAN

FOR SALE:    posted by: keithg on 5/9/2000 at 3:18:18 PM
1 green schwinn stingray 2spd very good condition, also 1 hiawatha chopper paint is red at the front fades to purple in rear, also has flame decals around the neck and side.

AGE / VALUE:   Vista Banana posted by: Carisa on 5/9/2000 at 10:12:08 AM
We just acquired a Vista Banana. It looks like a Schwinn. Has small wheel on front. Banana seat with high rise back. Stearing wheel type handle bars (it looks like half a stearing wheel). In great shape. Anyone know anything about it?

AGE / VALUE:   What do these go to? posted by: http://www.ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 5/8/2000 at 5:01:48 PM
I have three 20inch rims two are S-7 and the other is a S-2. What Schwinn bike used the S-7 and which used the S-2?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   What do these go to? posted by Jeff on 5/9/2000 at 5:50:16 AM
You've got yourself some Sting-Ray rims. The S-2 is most valuable, assuming it is in decent condition.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   What do these go to? posted by Gordon on 5/9/2000 at 8:36:41 PM
If they are chrome they are for Stingrays, Fairlady, Slik Chik, etc. If they are enameled, usually creme with black pinstripes they are probably for Typhoon, Hornet, etc.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   What do these go to? posted by ChristopherRobin on 5/10/2000 at 10:42:20 AM
Thanks, these are chrome. I did not know this.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   What do these go to? posted by Wings on 5/10/2000 at 10:36:23 PM
What bikes (year or name of Stingray) do the S2 rims go on? All I can ever find is part numbers on the Schwinn parts list by year and I have S2 rims.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   What do these go to? posted by Jeff on 5/12/2000 at 5:40:04 AM
The S-2 would be the rear wheel of a Krate or Five-speed or 3-speed or single speed boy's Sting-Ray. It is also used on the girl's Lil Chik. The front wheel on the bikes mentioned above would be an S-7 (the Krate has a 16" S-7 and all of the others have a 20" S-7)

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   What do these go to? posted by jack snodgrass on 5/25/2000 at 12:47:05 AM
i have a lil chic that i am trying to get running for my daughter it is in near perfect cond. i'm am trying unsucessfully to find replacement tires for the s-7 rims other than westwinds. i could also used a push in the right direction to find a new seat for it .

AGE / VALUE:   MK I 3+2 Chopper w/ frt. hub gen. posted by: Razman23 on 5/8/2000 at 5:56:29 AM
It is orange-red with black letters. I know that the chain that goes into the rear hub for shifting needs to be fixed. It came with lights which ran off of a front hub mounted generator. This is a factory setup. The spokes actually mounted to the generator. I need to locate the front headlight,it's somewhere in my parent's house. It has the factory slick back tire. Everything on the bike IS original. I am going to see my parents in the beginning of June, I will get some pictures and have them scanned. How much is this bike worth?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   MK I 3+2 Chopper w/ frt. hub gen. posted by Jeff on 5/8/2000 at 6:07:02 AM
A 3+2 with a front dynohub? I gotta see this one. If it is clean, original and the saddle has no rips, I'd guess it is worth at least $500.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   MK I 3+2 Chopper w/ frt. hub gen. posted by ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 5/9/2000 at 5:30:05 PM
The Raleigh R.S.W. 16 (R.S.W.means Raleigh small wheels) is the idiot sister to the Raleigh chopper is a lot of ways. The 16X2 Raleigh front tire on the R.S.W.16 is yellow- white and the chopper tire is black with a red stripe. Same size, same maker. The tricky thing here is that black tires would up on R.S.W.16's. The 28 hole dynohub was put into the 16 inch front dimpled rim and this was the front wheel of the deluxe version of the R.S.W. 16. The R.S.W. had smaller versions of the chrome "sports type" headlamps mounted on the front fender or mudguard. The tail light was really cool and it was an expensive item in it's day. It is a Wipac tail light made for Raleigh for this bicycle. It is a light inside a rear reflector. I have never seen a Chopper with a Sturmey-Archer G.H.6.dynohub.If I saw one of these I would think that someone switched front wheels. Now the rims on the R.S.W.16 has dimpled holes in the front and in the rear. I know the R.S.W. 16! (and it's motorized brother the WISP) However when it comes to the Chopper, I am unsure about some things because I have not studied all of them like other bikes of Raleigh's. Question. Did the Chopper front wheel have dimpled spoke holes? Were these front rims interchanged? Or did the Chopper have a non-dimpled rim that was for the chopper only? Recently I have seen a Chopper with cast alloy MAG rims, there was a girls Chopper, and I recently acquired a snowflake lime green chopper minus wheels, bars,shifter and front fender. I paid 50.00 for my project bike and I do not even know what rear wheel set-up to put it this. I never thought that a deraileur set-up was mated to the 5 speed console type shifter. However Raleigh did do this and personally, I would preferr this in the kids bike because the 5 speed hub of thie time period was not kid friendly at least in my opinion. I love and collect Sturmey-Archer hubs I had bad luck with my S-5 as a child. There are a lot of sites on the web devoted to the Raleigh Chopper so the answers are out there from folks who really know this cool childhood dream machine

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   MK I 3+2 Chopper w/ frt. hub gen. posted by ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 5/10/2000 at 10:47:46 AM
I would not be too surprised to see that this is an origonal set up from the Raleigh Factory. Just when you think you have seen it all, there is more that you never knew existed and Raleigh was famous for throwing curve balls. I look forward to seeing this picture of this Raleigh Chopper with a dynohub.

MISC:   sears 10 speed spyder(?) posted by: jason on 5/5/2000 at 8:37:43 PM
I've got a sears muscle bike (24") with a ten sp. shifter (2 sticks) and i'm looking for tires and a front badge. Also if there's anyone out there who knows what this bike may be worth, I'd appreciate any info, or trade for a comparable 20'