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Archived: Musclebikes (Sting-Rays, Krates, Choppers, etc.)

MISC:   Columbia SS posted by: Doug on 6/25/2000 at 11:03:20 PM
I have a Columbia SS musclebike and I am looking for any information on these bikes. Thanks Doug

WANTED:   74 Chopper Tires posted by: Nancy on 6/25/2000 at 5:00:57 PM
Where can i get tires for my chopper?

WANTED:   74 Chopper posted by: Nancy on 6/25/2000 at 5:00:57 PM
Where can i get tires for my chopper?

   RE:WANTED:   74 Chopper posted by JimW. on 6/30/2000 at 10:50:01 AM
Luxury Lowrider has a good selection of tires at reasonable

MISC:   schwinn posted by: B.B. on 6/25/2000 at 12:36:48 PM
Someone I know has a Schwinn Fairlady in their garage, it has the original seat and it's in great shape. The bike is pink and is missing the wheels and rear fender. i'm not to picky, I'll just put some walmart wheels on it. What do you think is the most I should pay for it?

   RE:MISC:   schwinn posted by JACK on 6/29/2000 at 10:19:28 AM

AGE / VALUE:   Roadmaster Renegade 3 Speed posted by: Steve on 6/24/2000 at 11:17:42 AM
Hi, I have an old violet colored Roadmaster Renegade 3 speed. I would like to know what its worth. I don't know much about muscle bikes, (I collect middleweights) so I will tell you all I can. The bike has a "Shimano Click- Stick" 3-speed shifter, hand brakes, whitewall 20" tires, chrome fenders, a perfect condition seat that is metallic violet with white sides, and a large stimsonite rear reflector. The serial number on the left rear drop out is K138232. Thanks for any help, Steve.

AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Krate posted by: jamie on 6/24/2000 at 6:56:14 AM
I am restoring a Pea Picker and I am in need of a seat. Does anybody reproduce these? I have seen Krates on ebay that have a "Pete" seat. What is a pete seat?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Krate posted by Kevin C on 6/24/2000 at 3:02:37 PM
Schwinn is reproducing Krate seats; they should be available at your local Schwinn shop. A "Pete" seat is a recovered seat by some outfit in the Southwest.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Krate posted by AG on 6/24/2000 at 9:02:55 PM
Here's the address to that 'outfit in the midwest' (Arizona)...
From what I've heard, Pete's seats are closer to original than the repro Schwinn seats (has to do with the curviture of the seat pan).

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Krate posted by Joe on 6/25/2000 at 6:03:39 AM
Since when is Arizona in the Midwest?

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Krate posted by Christopher on 7/5/2000 at 2:33:00 PM
Didn't you hear? They voted to move it.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Krate posted by Kenton on 7/15/2000 at 8:04:13 AM
The new Krates only come in Apple (red), Orange, and (now) Grape (purple), so I don't think you'll find a pea picker seat this way. The Grape is a new thing, I think. Looks good, too! It's a shame they are only single speed. I bought the new Apple, and on old fast back 5 speed, so I think I have a good start at a GREAT restore.

Good luck with yours

Kenton Fleming

MISC:   `69/`70 AMC Thunderball V posted by: Stan on 6/23/2000 at 9:34:26 PM
I have an AMC "Thunderball V" bicycle that my father bought
for my late brother's 10th birthday. The AMC bicycles were
sold at J.L. Hudson's department stores and were NOT affi-
liated with American Motors Corporation. Since my father
was a pharmacist at Hudson's, he received a 20% discount
and, I believe, decided to buy him this bike rather than a
Schwinn Krate.

The bike is basically a Krate "wanna be" with:
- 20 x 2.125 redline Paragon Slick rear tire
- 16 x 1.75 Uniroyal Chain 175 front tire
- Horizontal spring suspension fork
- Shimano Lark 5-speed deraileur
- Console housing two shift levers: one tall lever for the
gears and a shorter lever for a park brake
- Rams horn handlebars with orange Hunt-Wilde handlebar
tape and vinyl plugs
- Orange metal flake banana seat
- Excel Grand Prix caliper brakes front and rear

The bike is missing the LARGE, chrome plated chain guard (I
believe it's buried in my mother's basement), is missing
a bolt and cap for the Lark deraileur, and is missing some
of the hardware for the park brake. Other than that, it
is in very decent condition with only a couple of minor
scratches in the candy red / candy orange two-tone fade

Does anyone have ANY information on this bike?
Does anyone have a chainguard for it or know someone who
Where can I find a Shimano Lark deraileur or parts for one?

   RE:MISC: Addendum to Thunderball V posted by Stan on 6/25/2000 at 12:05:46 PM
This bike was manufactured by Murray Ohio Mfg. Co.. The
serial number is:MO5430X95722992. The frame is not like the one
used on the Murray Eliminator. Any leads to a chain guard
would be appreciated!

   RE:RE:MISC: Addendum to Thunderball V posted by Stan on 6/26/2000 at 11:21:36 PM
This bike is a re-badged Murray Eliminator MkII. The chain
guard is from the same tooling. Does anyone out there have
this chain guard for sale??? How about a Shimano Lark

   Needs a Shimano Lark Deraileur posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/26/2000 at 7:12:50 AM
I am hunting Shimano Lark deraileurs for someone else too, so if you E- mail me once and awhile chances are I will find one and we can get you one. So stay with me. http://www.ChristopherRobin@starmail.com

AGE / VALUE:   Help w/ID of bike posted by: Deb Silar on 6/23/2000 at 4:12:17 PM
I bought my husband a sting-ray style bike with banana seat, short sissy bar. It is yellow with a black seat. On the back of the seat is a metal plate with the works "VISTA" on it and on the main bar under the seat is the words "N.I.D.A." Does anyone recognize this? Year? Any info would be greatly appreciated!

AGE / VALUE:   New Krate 5 Speed posted by: Raul on 6/22/2000 at 8:28:02 PM
I would like to know if it is feasible to convert a New Krate
to a 5 Speed Frame Shift. Or is there a frame or wheel dimension problem.
I know the value of an original '72 Krate will always be worth more. But
I am looking for something that looks great and can I ride more often.
Not something that I am going to just hang on the wall. With an older
Krate I think I would be too concerned about wearing out the paint, tires...etc.
If anyone has any information on this please email me.



   RE:AGE / VALUE:   New Krate 5 Speed posted by bob on 6/23/2000 at 8:46:00 AM
The 5 speed wheel will not fit the coaster frame without widening the rear triangle. Also, the new frames probably do not have brake mounts. People have converted them but it's not that easy. By the time you buy the parts (wheel, brakes, shifter, deraleur, .....) it will cost as much as a real one and be worth less.

AGE / VALUE:   1968 Mattel Stallion posted by: B. Smith on 6/22/2000 at 5:00:19 PM
Still looking for info. on this bike. Any place to get shock absorbers? The bike is in otherwise great shape.

AGE / VALUE:   1960 3 speed amf hercules posted by: kenny on 6/22/2000 at 4:47:12 PM
does anyone have a picture of this bike thanks

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   1960 3 speed amf hercules posted by PaulO on 6/25/2000 at 1:07:04 PM
It looks just like a Raleigh 3-speed.

FOR SALE:   1969 raleigh chopper posted by: eric on 6/22/2000 at 12:21:52 PM
this bike is currently on ebay under the heading " '69 Raleigh Schwinn antique bicycle lowrider"...it usually comes up under " '69 antique bicycle lowrider ".
it is in great shape. comes with extra original, red stripe tires and some lowride white walls. if interested, drop me a note....


MISC:   Attention Chopper Owners posted by: ChristopherRobin on 6/22/2000 at 11:12:41 AM
Lever Position for GC5A and Twinshift gear control
1st GEAR super low LEFT Backward RIGHT Backward

2nd GEAR low LEFT Forward RIGHT Backward

3rd gear normal-i.e.
(Direct drive) LEFT Forward RIGHT Central

4th GEAR High LEFT forward RIGHT Forward


The terms left and right and forward and backward refer to the rider's position when seated on the bicycle.

   RE:MISC:   Attention Chopper Owners posted by ChristopherRobin on 6/22/2000 at 11:33:16 AM

1st GEAR SUPER LOW LEFT Backward RIGHT Backward

2nd GEAR LOW LEFT Forward RIGHT Backward

3rd GEAR NORMAL i.e. (Direct drive)
LEFT Forward RIGHT Central

4th GEAR HIGH LEFT Forward RIGHT Forward


The terms left and right and forward or backward refer to the rider's position when seated on the bicycle.

AGE / VALUE:   Attention Chopper owners posted by: ChristopherRobin on 6/22/2000 at 10:32:53 AM
Gear Adjustment for bikes with Twinshift or GC5A dual control units.

1. For right-hand side.
a. Disconnect gear control cable by unscrewing adjuster
b.Screw chain guide until it's flush with axle nut
c.Re-connect control cable.

2.To adjust hub gear, set right control lever in central position and locknut down.

a. Observe chain through window in chain guide and screw cable adjuster down until the last link of chain is clear of the axle.
b.adjust cable until end of rod is exactly even with outside of the axle.

3. For left side control.
a. Remove bellcrank and locknut from rear frame, and fit bellcrank up to left axle nut, and lock it in place on the axle with locknut.
b. Screw locknut down completely.
c. Push hand lever to forward position and screw cable connector to bell crank. Turn several turns.
d. Push lever to back position and screw cable connector until all play in the cable is gone.
e. Apply light pressure and push bell crankarm forward. Turn the wheel backward at the same time. If gears aren't fully engaged, move the bellcrank arm forward more. Adjust as needed.
f. Screw cable connector up completely and tighten the locknut.

Gear Ratio on the S5 Sturmey-Archer five speed hub.
1. 5th gear (super high speed), 50% increase.
2. 4th gear (high gear) 26.6% increase
3. Normal running gear, direct drive, 0 % increase
2. Low gear, decrease 21.1%
1.Super low gear, 33.3% decrease

E-mail me for notes on Dis-mantling and re-assembly of the Sturmey-Archer S5 hub.

I hope this helps!

WANTED:   Bright Yellow seat for musclebike posted by: Greg on 6/22/2000 at 4:15:11 AM
if you have one send me a email