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MISC:   ChristopherRobin - Eliminator Chain Guard posted by: Stan on 7/10/2000 at 1:13:27 PM
I've tried e-mailing you messages twice but I received this

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I would like you to know that I am very interested in the
Murray Eliminator chain guard that you mentioned in your
reply. I don't know how else to contact you except through
this forum. The chain guard would allow me to complete a
bike that belonged to my late brother. Your help will be
GREATLY appreciated!!!

   RE:MISC:   ChristopherRobin - Eliminator Chain Guard posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/10/2000 at 5:01:58 PM
There is a complete bike minus the wheels at this one place I frequent not far at all from home. I do not know if the shifter is there but this is a mettallic yellow with a arrow style chainguard I think in chrome. I will stop in Friday and pick up the bike and mail you a photo of it. This bike is not going to go anywhere between now and Friday so sleep tight.It is a chopper style bike I am almost certain this is the bike you are mentioning. Not 100% sure because this a slightly off my beaten path bikewise I am into English Roadsters rod brake bikes. The chainguard is on the bike I know. Only myself and his family go in the basement it is off limits to regular customers. I am sorry your brother is no longer with us. I have no idea why the E-mail did not go through and thanks for telling me. I need to delete some files to make more space. This could be the problem. I will reply here after friday morning.

   RE:RE:MISC:   ChristopherRobin - Eliminator Chain Guard posted by Stan on 7/10/2000 at 11:25:53 PM
I forgot to mention that I am also wondering if the bike you
refer to has the Shimano Lark derailleur?? If it does, I am
also interested in it as well as the chain guard.

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   ChristopherRobin - Eliminator Chain Guard posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/11/2000 at 11:26:53 AM
I will have to check on Friday. I am buying the bike and will keep it if you do not want it. Should be really reasonable.
Please try again to E- MAIL me. http://www.ChristopherRobin@starmail.com type just like I did.
This place is really maddening. I keep going through it all and I keep finding things I missed or he is getting vintage parts and mixing them up with the newer junk. Things I am too stupid to know to grab get passed over and I wish I could fold my arms and blink up bike friends who could advise me on what to get and what to leave.
Oh, by the way the basement is haunted! No, really it is!

      ChristopherRobin - Eliminator Chain Guard posted by http://www.ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 7/11/2000 at 5:42:42 PM
E-mail is working fine!

   RE:MISC:   ChristopherRobin - Eliminator Chain Guard posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/14/2000 at 12:13:03 PM
Well this bike is an A.M.F. AVENGER 324 arrow style chrome chainguard, missing handlebars, wheels, part of the stick shift. yellow and a cheap department store bike 25 years ago. This has a banana seat, white with silver flakes in it and a small sissy bar.E-mail me at http://www.ChristopherRobin@starmail.com

   RE:RE:MISC:   ChristopherRobin - Eliminator Chain Guard posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/14/2000 at 12:14:51 PM
I am sorry I got comfused. This one I have does not say eliminator but avenger.

AGE / VALUE:   Sting Ray Junior " RED " posted by: Sandi on 7/9/2000 at 10:35:21 PM
I have a Sting Ray in GREAT Condition. Not a tear in the seat, and all original!! One reflectoe is broken...
How do I know the year? And what is it worth??

AGE / VALUE:   Murray Eliminator Mark II posted by: Vinny on 7/8/2000 at 11:34:17 PM
I have a Murray Eliminator Mark II. I was wondering when these were made and what they might be worth. I know very little about bikes. It has handle bars that come up then bend down and out then back toward the center. It has two shifts in between your legs. One says shift and is Red, and the other is black and is missing the sticker, but I do know that it hooks to the back brake. It has a banana type seat that needs a little cleaning. It is painted a goldish/yellow. All the brakes and rims I beleive are original. It has a 20" back tire and a smaller front tire. Any information anybody might be able to give me would be greatly appreciated. I was thinking of sanding down and repainting. Is this a good Idea?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Murray Eliminator Mark II posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/9/2000 at 9:38:19 AM
Please wait on this at least for a few days. I am seeing one of these at one of my haunts I am almost sure what I keep seeing is this bike you are talking about. I really doubt you want to go through all of this hassle when I can pick this thing up and get it to you. I have never seen one of these but it is part of the Chopper history and You really do not see many of these. I have to visit this one place anyway. E-mail me so we can chat. http://www.ChristopherRobin@starmail.com

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Murray Eliminator Mark II posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/9/2000 at 9:40:08 AM
You have to be carefull when stripping a bikeand this can get expensive more than it is worth perhaps.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Murray Eliminator Mark II posted by Conrad on 7/9/2000 at 7:22:53 PM
Unless the paint is really thrashed, leave it alone! The Mark II's were made from '69-'71(possibly '72). The '69's differ in that they have a sissy bar pad and springs on the sissy bar. The Mark II's were also "re-badged" and sold with JC Pennys,Western Auto,Otasco,AMC,and Parkleigh headbadges.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Murray Eliminator Mark II posted by Stan on 7/9/2000 at 11:54:07 PM
I hope you received the reply to the e-mail you sent me. If
you repaint the frame, you will not be able to replace the
two chrome/color bands on the seat and down tubes (I know of
no one who reproduces them). Replacing the cables should
not be a problem so long as the conduit is not corroded
internally. The proper cable conduit color shoud be white,
including the cable for the Shimano Lark derailleur which
should have a "3.3.3." stamped in red. The sides of the rims
should be stamped "M.O.MFG CO". The rear tire of my bike is
a red-line Paragon Slick and is original, while the front is
a Uniroyal and might be incorrect. The front brake is an Excel
Grand Prix caliper and is original, but the rear brake is of
an indiscernible brand and I cannot remember if my brother,
who owned the bike, replaced it.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Murray Eliminator Mark II posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/11/2000 at 5:45:08 PM
Somebody please school me about Excell brakes. I see these, should I pick them up? Describe what ones are worth getting.

AGE / VALUE:   stingray posted by: Larry on 7/8/2000 at 8:31:20 PM
Green stingray. 2 speed with wheelie bar, speedo ,horn, light, and sissy bar $500

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   stingray posted by Dustin on 7/20/2000 at 6:00:29 PM
Just the colour I'm looking for, send pic? more info?

WANTED:   im looking for a fair or descent looking stingray or krate posted by: Aaron on 7/8/2000 at 7:27:08 PM
anyone who has a stingray or krate who is willing to sell contact me at my email address and let me know about it and a cost

   RE:WANTED:   im looking for a fair or descent looking stingray or krate posted by Stacey on 8/13/2000 at 9:24:11 PM
my next door neighbor has a 1968 Schwinn crate 5 speed hi-lo shifter very good condition make offer and I'll let him know (in process of restoring)

WANTED:   WANTED HUFFY SLINGSHOT, SEAR posted by: JOHN on 7/8/2000 at 2:00:20 PM
Iam still looking for a huffy slingshot or sears gremlin and a Rollfast Top Drag . These are 20x16 muscle bikes from 1970 .



WANTED:   Murray Eliminator Mk II / AMC Thunderball V chain guard posted by: Stan on 7/5/2000 at 1:15:46 PM
I need a chain guard for a Murray Eliminator Mk II or
AMC Thunderball V. Any condition would be considered.

   RE:WANTED:   Murray Eliminator Mk II / AMC Thunderball V chain guard posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/8/2000 at 10:12:48 AM
AS pal has one in his basement I will try to liberate it for you this is a whole bike minus the wheels I really should have grabed it by now. It is yellow and Oh well just e-mail me in a week ok? http://www.ChristopherRobin@starmail.com

AGE / VALUE:   Maybe Stringray mabe not ? posted by: Mike on 7/3/2000 at 8:30:52 PM
I bought a frame serial #BD77935 has a fork with the chrome crown. Has cranks w/ seven holes. No chain guard. Could this be a stingray? Did any of the 68 rays have the seven hole cranks ? Please help before I sink alot of money in this.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Maybe Stringray mabe not ? posted by BillG on 7/5/2000 at 8:16:50 AM
Could be a 'Ray. It has the "Lucky Seven" sprocket. Could be a Sting-Ray Junior.

MISC:   Whats the best chrome polish to use? posted by: Nancy on 6/30/2000 at 10:47:56 AM
I am cleaning up a 74 chopper. What kind of polish and wax can you recommend?
Thanks in advance!

   RE:MISC:   Whats the best chrome polish to use? posted by Stan on 6/30/2000 at 10:10:25 PM
The best chrome polish that I've used is "Mother's Chrome Polish"
which can be found in auto parts stores as well as discount
stores in their automotive department. The reasons that I
like using this one is because it does not scratch the surface.
and it removes any fine rust from the chrome surface pretty
well. It has. however, a low viscosity...it will pour out
of the bottle quickly! Hope this helps!!

   RE:RE:MISC:   Whats the best chrome polish to use? posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/8/2000 at 10:15:12 AM
I use rubbing compound it is red and made by turtle wax. It this ok with you guys? I mean does anyone else clean chrome this way. It seems to work really well.

AGE / VALUE:   Classic Stingray Fastback posted by: Andy on 6/30/2000 at 5:46:48 AM
Hey everyone, I just found an old Schwinn Stingray in my grandparents basement and decided to clean it up. Much to my surprise it cleaned up excellently, no rust, few scratches. My question is, how do I determine what year the bike is and is there a forum that gives pricing guidelines for bikes like that? Please help! email me @ jabrony76@aol.com

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Classic Stingray Fastback posted by VVVintage Vintage Bicycles at OldRoads.com on 7/3/2000 at 8:52:42 AM
Check out our "Sting-Ray Summary". You cn get to it from our home page (OldRoads.com)

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Classic Stingray Fastback posted by ryan valade on 7/3/2000 at 9:50:44 AM
how much is a old gray ghost

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Classic Stingray Fastback posted by ChristopherRobin on 7/3/2000 at 2:04:15 PM
Go to your local bookstore and for $14.00 or so get the Sting Ray book in the cycling section. It covers everything!! I believe that the Grey Ghost is one of the most expensive in the fleet.These go up to about $1,300 but condition is everything I suggest you check out the many Schwinn Sting-ray sites on the web.

AGE / VALUE:   Heidemann Works Olympic Deluxe posted by: Mike Line on 6/29/2000 at 6:54:12 PM
I was recently given a bicycle in perfect condition, but I don't know anything about it. The decal on the seat tube says Heidemann Works/Hanover Western Germany and the model is Olympic Deluxe. My friends rode the bike as kids so it must have been built in the late 60's early 70's. It has a banana seat and 20 inch wheels, the rear wheel is considerably wider than the front, but its not a slick. Any information about the bike or the company would be appreciated.

MISC:   Huffy Cheeter Slick posted by: David on 6/29/2000 at 4:38:08 PM
i have a Huffy Cheeter Slick that was left to me by my Uncle. It is completely original except for the seat. I was wondering if anyone knows anything at all about these bikes. any help would be greatly appreciated.

   RE:MISC:   Huffy Cheeter Slick posted by christian on 7/1/2000 at 12:47:24 AM
that's the bike i had when i was a kid. i think i got it in
1977 but i don't remember if i got it new or not.
i don't know much about it, except i am looking for an orange one in nice shape.
if anyone has one, let me know.

WANTED:   drag stripper posted by: drag stripper on 6/28/2000 at 3:06:56 PM
looking for a front fender, peddles, brake parts for a iverson dragstriper. any info anyone has on this bike would be great.

   RE:WANTED:   drag stripper posted by BillG on 6/29/2000 at 6:41:22 AM
Most Ross parts will work and be correct.

   RE:RE:WANTED:   drag stripper posted by drag stripper on 6/29/2000 at 10:55:18 AM
so were iversons built by ross or just used the same parts.

   RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   drag stripper posted by Jeff on 6/29/2000 at 11:22:58 AM
Iverson built their own frames and used mostly Ross parts, FYI

   RE:WANTED:   drag stripper posted by Conrad on 7/4/2000 at 8:20:34 AM
Is it the 20"x20" or 16"x20"(small front tire) version?
There is a 20x20 for sale on ebay.

   RE:RE:WANTED:   drag stripper posted by drag stripper on 7/5/2000 at 11:10:50 AM
its a 20x20, i did not see one on ebay, must have missed it.

AGE / VALUE:   Chopper Question posted by: ChristopherRobin@starmail.com on 6/28/2000 at 2:26:56 PM
What size rear wheel is proper and origonal for a Raleigh Chopper Mk 1? I have a motorcycle shop nearby the house and I think I will take in the sissy bar and see if I can get it lengthened or a longer one made up. I'll pick these guy's brains a bit. I've been sitting staring at this thing wondering what kind of crazy modifications I could do to it. Motorize it? diffrent forks? suspension forks? I could have it painted too, but this one will stay in the slightly tatty origonal paint for now anyway. Where can I get a look at some other wild Chopper ideas to mimic? I took rubbing compound and cleaned up this rear fender and it shines like BRAND NEW !!! Amazing that there is not one dent, scratch, blemish, anything because it was on the bike the last 29 years and so much else is missing.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Chopper Question posted by JimW. on 6/28/2000 at 10:47:04 PM
Sounds like you've come down with "Kustom Fever", C.R. Good-Oh! The rear would be a 20X2.125, with a slick tyre, as I recall, pretty much the same as on a Stingray. Re the sissy bar mods: Lowrider parts sources have tall sissy bars. I think you'll find that getting one of those and modifying its mounting points will be simpler and cheaper than modifying the stock item, which involves adding new metal, finishing and plating.

I've always preferred the Chopper to the Krates, as its frame was specifically designed for musclebike purposes; whereas the Schwinns were based on a kiddy-bike frame. This
is a very good bike to kustomize, as there are so many interesting components available to fit this size frame. You
have both lowrider and BMX sources to draw upon. See what's
available at http://hiwheel.com, Http://lovelylowrider.com, and http://luxurylowrider.com for kustom parts. There are some really interesting parts available, and not all of them
are hideously tacky. Lovelylowrider has "knock-off spinners" for the front, for example, which suit the Raleigh Chopper's styling very well, although they're non-functional and don't actually spin. A good site to check out is Chopper City, which may be found at: http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Garage/1284/index.html
After you finish it, be sure to send us a photo. We
don't have any kustom Raleigh Choppers in our BikeRod&Kustom Gallery, yet.

AGE / VALUE:   Orange Krate posted by: Dick on 6/26/2000 at 12:36:07 PM
I picked up a Schwinn Orange Krate not long ago, its missing a couple of parts. The rear brake caliper and the deraillier are missing and I wondered if they are the same as others made by Schwinn. I dont know a whole lot about this bike but its cute. Thanks for any help.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Orange Krate posted by JOEL on 6/26/2000 at 2:54:20 PM
Lucky find... The derailleur is the same as for a Varsity of the same year. Rear caliper might be the same as a middleweight (not sure). These are pretty inexpensive parts. Try putting an ad on the buy,sell,trade forum at WWW.Schwinn.com.