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Archived: Musclebikes (Sting-Rays, Krates, Choppers, etc.)

AGE / VALUE:   Parts needed for restoration projest posted by: Greg Groth on 3/17/2001 at 8:19:21 PM
Looking for parts to finish a restoration project on a '76 Scrambler. Need the following:

NOS Saddle
NOS Pedals

If you care to see the bike in question, check out my site:

Any info/leads welcome.

FOR SALE:   NOS Schwinn Manta Ray Tire Set posted by: Jim on 3/17/2001 at 2:32:10 PM
For sale NOS Schwinn Manta Ray Tire Set. Rear is a Fastback Slik 24 x 1 3/8. Front is 24 1 3/8 Sports Side Touring. Both are the genuine article. Supple rubber to cracking. Photo available at http://www.coconutgirls.com/bikeyard/slik
$80 shipped

   RE:FOR SALE:   NOS Schwinn Manta Ray Tire Set posted by Me on 3/18/2001 at 1:51:25 PM
How can it be FASTBACK if it is not 20"?

   RE:RE:FOR SALE:   NOS Schwinn Manta Ray Tire Set posted by .02 on 3/18/2001 at 5:34:49 PM
Because life is just full of wierd little idiosyncracies. Kind of like how you can't mount a Schwinn Typhoon tire on a Schwinn Typhoon bike. Weird.

   RE:RE:RE:FOR SALE:   NOS Schwinn Manta Ray Tire Set posted by .03 on 3/20/2001 at 7:38:45 PM
not to be mean or critical, but my '67 typhoon has typhoon tires on it. thought id let ya know

   RE:RE:RE:RE:FOR SALE:   NOS Schwinn Manta Ray Tire Set posted by .02 on 3/20/2001 at 8:23:25 PM
Oops, maybe I stand corrected? I was thinking the Typhoon Cord 26" x 2.125" (balloon tire) when I said that. I would have said that a '67 Typhoon would be a middleweight with 26" x 1 3/4" Westwinds. This is assuming we're even talking about a 26" bike. Maybe I should have just kept my .02 to myself?

MISC:   Keeping bikes shiny and new posted by: Brandon on 3/16/2001 at 10:53:40 AM
I have a few old bikes, and I was wondering if anybody had any suggestions on keeping them looking new? Any recommended waxes or detergents? My bikes get ridden once and a while, and they sometimes sit up in a shed, that is until I can sneak them back into the house! So, from time to time, the chrome and paint doesn't look so sharp. Any thoughts?

   RE:MISC:   Keeping bikes shiny and new posted by jimmy on 3/16/2001 at 3:19:05 PM
3M Perfect-it 11 Rubbing Compound Fine Cut works great it's exspensive but it is worth it

   RE:RE:MISC:   Keeping bikes shiny and new posted by ChristopherRobin on 3/17/2001 at 9:20:50 AM
Twenty-Six dollars for a tin of Simachrome polish?? I know its great stuff, meets military spec and all that. But still, Twenty-Six Dollars! There is lots on the shelf for somebody else because I won't use it.

   RE:MISC:   Keeping bikes shiny and new posted by sam on 3/17/2001 at 5:41:17 PM
try 3-M pink swirl and glase---you'll have to go to a paint store to get it.

   RE:MISC:   Keeping bikes shiny and new posted by Ray on 3/20/2001 at 8:13:00 AM
I like No 7 chrome polish, it is not expensive and does a great job even on the chrome that has that slight haze that needs to be buffed away. It is sloppy when it dries to a powder but it is the best I have found. Someone recommended Mothers and I tried it in the bottle and it is the worst chrome polish I have ever purchased. It is great if your chrome is already shiney and has fingerprints but it does not remove anything else. As for painted surfaces, I found a product at a car swap meet called Dry Wash. It is pretty expensive for a bottle about $19 but it does a wonderful job of bringing up flat or weathered painted surfaces and protects them for about a year. It also streatches so you can use one small bottle for about 30-50 bikes. It is very easy to use, spray on and rub off. Not in stores you have to buy it from a frachise dealer and I have only seen them at car shows.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Keeping bikes shiny and new posted by Cal on 3/21/2001 at 5:51:25 AM
Number 7 polish works by slowly removing the tiny bumps off your paint. It also does nothing for protection - it is basically rubbing compound. Use it too much and you'll have bare spots on your frame!

   RE:MISC:   Keeping bikes shiny and new posted by VVVintage Vintage Bicycles at OldRoads.com on 3/21/2001 at 3:31:15 PM
We may be a bit biased, but our cleaning kit (see ad and 'before and after' pictures near the top of this page) does an excellent job and costs $14.95. The cleaning oil is waterproof, buffs to a fine sheen, and will not harm your paint or decals.

Vin - VVVintage Vintage Bicycles

   RE:RE:MISC:   Keeping bikes shiny and new posted by Brandon on 3/22/2001 at 8:40:28 PM
Thanks to all who answered.

FOR SALE:   Raleigh chopper pedals posted by: Robert on 3/16/2001 at 5:36:24 AM
Mint set of 70's Raleigh Chopper pedals on ebay item no. 1123721988

Also have some Shirmano 3 speed stick shifts such as came on
AMF and others . Make reasonable offer plus shipping.

MISC:   Stingray Junior posted by: Foster on 3/16/2001 at 5:04:51 AM
Does a Junior have a smaller frame than a stingray, or does it have the same size frame and just use a shorter cranks?


   RE:MISC:   Stingray Junior posted by mike on 3/16/2001 at 8:00:18 AM
Foster, A junior frame I believe, is about 2 inches shorter than a standard 'ray frame after 1965 (one inch shorter for a 1963 to 1965 standard, they were shorter) I hope this helps.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Stingray Junior posted by YeahRight on 3/18/2001 at 1:54:35 PM
A junior is the same frame as a 'Ray, but with
shorter cranks

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Stingray Junior posted by mike on 3/18/2001 at 2:54:56 PM
Sorry, No way, I own a 1976 junior, a 1974 standard and two 1965 rays and the tape measure nevers lies, (measure between the seat post and the rear fender brace) yes way

   RE:MISC:   Stingray Junior posted by Gary on 3/26/2001 at 8:53:49 PM
Grab that tape measure!! I have an all original 65 StingRay
Jr here EA ser number. will measure any part you think may be different. i wondered myself, also heard that the 65 was the same one year only as the standard, i say get the tape, lets see.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Stingray Junior posted by mike on 3/27/2001 at 4:43:49 PM
Gary, Measure your crank arm, there is about 1 inch longer for the standard, and the overall frame is 1 inch shorter than a 65, I didn't think that schwinn made a Junior in 1965...

   RE:MISC:   Stingray Junior posted by gary on 3/27/2001 at 8:16:27 PM
65 is the first year for the junior. mine is original down to the white rims with black pinstripes. it has the wrong bars, and rear tire, otherwise is stock. wish i could find a reasonable original seat for it. seems the solo polo white is worth more then the bikes are. i dont have any other rays to go by, so you measure what parts you want and tell me where and we will compare.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Stingray Junior posted by Gary on 3/28/2001 at 6:29:53 PM
Gary, The length of the standard 65 ray frame from the end of the rear dropout to the bottom of the headtube is 33 inches. Crank arm length is 6 1/2 inches, and the distance between the rear fender brace and the seat tube is 3 1/4 inches. Didn't Juniors come with a 15 inch long banana seat and a shorter sissybar.

AGE / VALUE:   GREEN MANTA RAY SEAT WITH RACING STRIPE posted by: Eric on 3/11/2001 at 4:25:53 AM
How much is a manta ray campus green seat with the racing stripe worth with a bad tag. The last inch of the stripe is worn off on the tip.The right side on the tip has a quarter size chunk missing out of it.The seat pan is almost mint has the reflector tap and the large reflector.The worst part is the rip on the left and is pretty much in the shape of a U.
Need to know how much I could get for it on ebay

MISC:   F/T Lots of Stuff - See List posted by: kratev13@hotmail.com on 3/10/2001 at 8:47:39 PM
I've got the following to offer up in trade:
2 - NOS WW 20X2.125 Kelly-Springfield Sliks
1 - NOS WW 20X1.75 Goodyear Slik
2 - NOS WW 20X1.75 Goodyear Whitewall Wingfoots
1 - Near Mint 1966 Dated BW Schwinn Stingray Slik
1 - NOS WW Carlilse 20X1 3/4 WW Roadgripper (not a slik)
2 - NOS BW Western Flyer 20 X 1 3/8 Linear Tread Tires
Lots of other misc. NOS tires - many sizes.
Tons of NOS spokes, all sizes.
NOS Schwinn Deluxe Generator Light Set - Mint in the Box
NOS Schwinn Brown Glitter Lever Covers - On the Schwinn Card
1973 Disk Brake Lemon Peeler - 8.5 condition, all original except
repop RWL slik.
Brand New Repop Coaster Apple Krate - Barely Ridden, with manuals.
1 - 1966 Schwinn Sprint Fastback Frame, Fork, Crank, Sprint Sprocket
& Derailleur
1 - Decent Used 26" Chrome Double Stamped S-2 Rim
3 Very Nice 16" Chrome S-7 Rims (24 hole, 2 unstamped, 1 side stamped)
1 Very Nice 16" Chrome S-7 Coaster Krate Complete Front Wheel
1 - Original Chrome Cantilever Horn/Tank (26", Phantom)(Delta Horn
unit, some dents, some rust, no battery acid damage, structurally
Lots and lots of Schwinn and Offbrand Boy's Life Full Color Ads

I've got a lot of other stuff, too much to list.. just let me know if there's anything you'd be interested in.

I'm looking for the following:
Shifter Overload Tubes & Double Cable Clamps
Nice 1966 3 Speed Stik Shifter
Nice Side or Center Stamped 20" Chrome S-2 Rims (28 Hole)
Complete Krate Front Wheel or Atom Drum Hub
Nice 1970 & Up 5 Speed Stik Shifter
NOS WW General Brigadier 20X1 3/8 Sliks
NOS, Repop or very nice Pea Picker Seat
Ramshorn Rattrap Pedals
Schwinn Ramshorn Handlebars
1976 Fastback Frame/Fork or complete bike.
Lil Tiger Sissy Bar
Nice Lil Tiger Rear Ducktail Fender

Let's make a deal.

   RE:MISC:   F/T Lots of Stuff - See List posted by CARL HAMM on 4/16/2001 at 5:45:50 PM

   RE:MISC:   F/T Lots of Stuff - See List posted by John Smith on 4/29/2001 at 4:21:52 AM
I'm very interested in the lemon peeler. Please send pic's and price.

AGE / VALUE:   65 deluxe stingray posted by: David on 3/10/2001 at 5:28:06 PM
Did a 1965 stingray deluxe have a front hand brake only or
was it an option? I've seen pictures of it both ways.The Liz Fried book shows it both ways Pg.10 (with) and pg.8 without, Whats up with that? thanks

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   65 deluxe stingray posted by Kevin C. on 3/10/2001 at 6:02:04 PM
The 1965 Schwinn catalog shows that the Deluxe came in three configurations: coaster brake ($56.95); three-speed ($64.95), and two-speed coaster WITH HAND BRAKE ($66.95). Hope this helps. Kevin C.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   65 deluxe stingray posted by David on 3/10/2001 at 6:04:56 PM
Thanks, Kevin This helps a bunch...

AGE / VALUE:   Sting Ray "Runabout" posted by: Mark J on 3/10/2001 at 4:19:55 PM
A "Runabout" I saw one today not near as sharp as the banana seat sissy bar jobs Im used to.Also a drab green color did have springs in seat and rotating handlebars,bike is a 3 speed with thumb shifter,any idea what year value and is it even worth trying to buy?? Thx in advance Mark

WANTED:   Murray info posted by: catfoodrob on 3/10/2001 at 8:18:24 AM
Any Murray musclebike experts out there? Over in the U.K. my buddy turned up a mint girls frame, Murray Pinwheels.
Allegedly 1970. Its in 2 tone with flowers on the banana seat. Anyone know any details??? We assume it was brought over by a U.S. servicemans family, stationed over here in the 70`s, and left when they returned stateside.
Any info ????????

MISC:   any sugestions posted by: cory on 3/9/2001 at 8:21:52 PM
hey i am making a bicycle built for two that is a stingray/apple krate and i was wondering if any one ou there had any sugestions for me. if so that would be great!!
Cory cfish20@yahoo.com

   RE:MISC:   any sugestions posted by mike on 3/12/2001 at 9:12:23 AM
Cory, make sure your welding is good. Maybe finding and old tandem frame would be easier.

   RE:MISC:   any sugestions posted by Kurt on 3/12/2001 at 6:36:52 PM
Cory, I have a friend that made a two seater out of two fastbacks and there was a lot less welding to do and it looks great. Won a lot of bike shows with it.

AGE / VALUE:   Hiawatha muscle bike posted by: Tim Welsh on 3/9/2001 at 5:46:09 PM
I found, at a dump, a Hiawatha muscle bike. Actually, it is missing a few bits and could be in better shape, but it is a lovely frame and is repairable. So, what's the market like for Hiawatha muscle bikes? I don't recall ever hearing about one. I also found a much better condition, Norco (Canadian) 'girl's frame' muscle bike, complete even with red stripe tires. Any value?

WANTED:   Huffy Musclebike posted by: Brian on 3/9/2001 at 4:48:58 PM
I want to purchase a bicycle I had as a child. It was a Huffy Slingshot. It was a burnt orange color, 5 speed with a 48 in. sissy bar. It had a black seat and a black sissy bar head rest. It had a cheater slick back tire. If anyone has a bike even closely resembling this description for sale please email me. Thanks.

FOR SALE:   Black Ross Apollor 5 Speed w/frame mounted Shifter WRL tires posted by: Eric on 3/9/2001 at 9:15:21 AM
Has NOS rear slik. Has WRL tires, 5 speed shifter. The bike is black. It is a Ross Apollo Swinger II. Seat and chrome is in excellent condition. Rides great. Photos are available. $340 shipped.

AGE / VALUE:   west michigan muscle bike museum posted by: Jim VanBlargan on 3/8/2001 at 6:44:32 PM
Come and see west michigan muscle bike museum. Memorabilia
from the 50's, 60's and 70's. Over 130 muscle bikes.
Krates, department store bikes, posters, pictures. For
information by appointment call (231) 744-5811 Debute
spring of 2001. 24x36 mock schwinn facility