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AGE / VALUE:Schwinn Derailleurs posted by: Bob on 5/21/2001 at 7:55:33 PM
I have a NOS Schwinn derailleur model GT 510. Markings include "US Patented" and "Made In France". I'm told they were spec'd on Varsitys and Krates in the 60's and 70's. But now someone tells me this derailleur is from the 80's. My question: How long were these derailleurs made for and how do I date this particular one. Can be viewed at http://www.squeakywheel.ab.ca/schwinndrlr.jpg

MISC:   anatomy of the wheel posted by: zac on 5/21/2001 at 12:17:00 PM
so, i'm in the process of restoring a '68 5-spd stingray, and the wheels are in pretty bad shape... i've read a couple things that leads me to infere that you can unlace the wheel, clean rims and hubs, and then relace them, using new spokes... now, this goes counter to what i've always heard about the durability of rims, can you reuse a rim? wont it be bent out of shape beyond repair? should i remove a spoke, then replace it, remove a spoke then replace it, one at a time?

   RE:MISC:   anatomy of the wheel posted by Annette & Greg on 5/21/2001 at 5:08:02 PM
If you are familiar with truing wheels and lacing wheels then you shouldn't have any problems unlacing and relacing these wheels. if you are not familiar you may want to ask the assistance of someone who is familiar with this process to show you or teach you how. If you find that you would like to purchase wheels then lat me know. I have access to all kinds of aftermarket schwinn parts that would be right up your alley. If you decide to buy some of our products mention this discussion board and I'll give you a 5% discount off of your first order. Please visit our website at www.hiwheel.com/lowriders_fs.asp. View our parts list and if you don't see what you are looking for email me or call me and I'll see what I can do for you.
Annette - RBR, Inc.

FOR SALE:   NOS Original Terra Cotta Dlx C Guard posted by: Baldy Jeff on 5/19/2001 at 7:07:02 PM
Have an NOS ORIGINAL Terra Cotta Deluxe Sting Ray chainguard-no shelf wear,MINT-consider interesting trades-MORE Sting Ray guards + parts available-----Thanks!

AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn/Bantam Age posted by: Bob on 5/18/2001 at 1:20:42 PM
I can't seem to find the age of my Schwinn Bantam on any of the serial no. charts that I've seen. I think it is a 64 based on some of the parts that I've cleaned. Serial no. is N452350 ? Help !

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn/Bantam Age posted by mike on 5/19/2001 at 7:44:10 PM
Bob Are you sure that is a N, I believe the first letter is the month and the second is the year, 4 (1964).

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn/Bantam Age posted by bob on 5/21/2001 at 1:26:39 PM
Thanks for your reply Mike, yes it is an N. The more I think about it I think that my bike was produced in Dec. of 1964. My parents bought it for me in March of 1965 I think. Too bad they didn't buy me a Sting Ray Deluxe instead ! I think Schwinn skipped the letters I, and L that year?

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn/Bantam Age posted by bob on 5/21/2001 at 1:26:44 PM
Thanks for your reply Mike, yes it is an N. The more I think about it I think that my bike was produced in Dec. of 1964. My parents bought it for me in March of 1965 I think. Too bad they didn't buy me a Sting Ray Deluxe instead ! I think Schwinn skipped the letters I, and L that year?

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn/Bantam Age posted by Mike on 5/24/2001 at 4:43:26 PM
Bob, According to my records, M - December and L - November...so My info may be incorrect, maybe someone else out there has a different answer. Good luck

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn/Bantam Age posted by goob on 5/27/2001 at 4:17:09 PM
According to ANTIQUE CLASSIC BICYCLE NEWS listing your bike ia a Dec 28, 1964 bike. If you are going to be into the bike collecting buy you one of these list it well worth it. I got mine from Memory lane and there is a lot more details in it than on the puter listing.

AGE / VALUE:   HIGHTSTOWN NJ MEET 5-20 SUNDAY! posted by: Paul on 5/17/2001 at 9:55:37 AM
Early bird gets the worm

SUNDAY MAY 20 RAIN OR SHINE. 683 RT. 33 (int of

FOR INFO CALL VAN 609 448 2928.

C/P for map:

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WANTED:   "Sprint" derailleur tag posted by: jeff on 5/16/2001 at 3:54:20 PM
Needed to complete a 66 fastback.....its the only thing missing.....aaaaggggghhhhhh...help....thanx

WANTED:   SCHWINN GRIPPER SLIK WANTED (S-7) 20 inch posted by: brad on 5/15/2001 at 5:15:51 AM
schwinn gripper slik wanted (S-7{20 inch})
tube not wanted tire wanted send me pic at LEEWEE911oo@aol.com
Thanks brad

AGE / VALUE:   Need help with identification posted by: Bigtime on 5/14/2001 at 4:27:53 PM
I picked up a bike at a garage sale for $3.00 last weekend. It seems to be at least a Stingray style bike. Someone had taken the head badge off before repainting it (poorly) a bright yellow over the original red, but it does say Schwinn down by the bottom bracket. My problem is that the serial number on the left rear dropout is R01060 , which doesn't seem to match up with any numbers on lists of Scwhinn serial numbers that I have seen. It is also a girl's bike and has a small vertical crossbar tube between the top and down tubes which I have never seen before. The chrome is a bit rusty, it has a chrome chainguard (possibly not original), and the seat has been poorly recovered, ripped, and then duct-taped over, but I was looking for a fixer-upper, so I'm happy. Any help at all that anyone could give would be great. -Thanks

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help with identification posted by ser#..1960? on 5/14/2001 at 7:19:29 PM
my records sho its a 1960 but schwinn didn't make stingrays than....

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help with identification posted by Bigtime on 5/15/2001 at 10:18:19 AM
I originally thought it was 1960 too. Maybe I'm wrong here, but if it was a 1960, wouldn't the first letter correspond with the month? The letter "R" is too far into the alphabet to be the month, unless some months got 2 different letters or someting like that.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Need help with identification posted by sam on 5/16/2001 at 6:22:44 PM
schwinn has made the 20" models going way back.Maybe your's is a Debbie or in 63 they made a Barbie(I bet that would be worth some with all the interest in the old Barbie Dolls)

AGE / VALUE:   need help about old Firestone 178-1-152 posted by: Scotty Allan Wright on 5/14/2001 at 2:40:48 PM
: I need some information regarding an old Ladies Firestone that I picked up for $5.00 at a garage sale. The local Schwinn dealer said that he wasn't well-versed in antique bikes but that Schwinn made alot of the old Firestone, Western Auto, and Goodyear bikes, however, there is no indication on the bike that it was made by Schwinn. Key features are the original paint, which is a royal blue color, white striping,(one thin white stripe down each outer edge of the fenders), elongated white star on the forks, and a "V" at the tip of the front fender, which appears to have been white with gold outline. The Firestone plate on the headpipe is white with red logo. The rubber pedal parts spin freely instead of being rigidly attached. The seat is blue at the rear, with the front being white, thin vinyl stretched over minimal padding and the steel frame and was made by Troxel in Elyria, Ohio. There is a thin brace welded between the two downtubes, and the pedal crank sprocket is star-shaped on the inside. The handlebar grips are a transparent amber color. The frame number is 178-1-152, and is located under the crank. There are 5 city liscense stickers on the rear fender, two of which are covered up by the other 3. the oldest visible sticker is from 1969, and it covers another older sticker. I need help with model ID, year, approximate value range, and paint names/color codes etc.



AGE / VALUE:   need help I.D.ing stingray midget posted by: Scotty Allan Wright on 5/13/2001 at 2:12:20 PM
Hi folks! Recently purchased a small Schwinn for my son at a garage sale for $3.00. I could tell that it was old and had the Schwinn plates on it. I am interested in any information that anyone can give me on it as far as age and value, and if I should bother restoring it or just let him ride as is. unique features include solid rubber tires with heavy steel spoke rims reminiscent of the old trikes we used to ride, the original color is darker than a grass green, but not so dark as a forest green. it is a girls bike, but is complete, though it has been painted a sea green, and the seat has been recovered. The original Schwinn cross decal on the seat support bar has not been painted over, and the badge on the fork tube is in good shape. The bike was made in Chicago ser#743563

Thank You!!


P.S.the serial # is stamped on the frame tube just under the front of the seat on the left side.

AGE / VALUE:   2 bikes found posted by: john on 5/13/2001 at 12:43:55 PM
i found 2 bikes at the salvation army, the first is a schwinn super sport, yellow, alot of chipped paint, but the hardware is in great shape, has a schwinn aproved rack in the back, the 2nd i dont know what it is, looks like the same frame as a manta, it has a 3 speed thumb shifter, and a saddle seat, really big bars, its really dark red, shifter says sturmey archer, has the hollow axle like a chopper,doesnt have the oval schwinn badge, but looks like there was one there, with the unfading of the paint there, any ideas as of yet?, i didnt have a truck, so i pick them up tuesday, ill stop back with pics and more details then, but the price.... $6.99 for the super sport, and $9.99 for the ???

AGE / VALUE:   rollfast posted by: keith on 5/13/2001 at 9:16:12 AM
Hi,about those girls stingray style rollfast bikes, it is a skoot not a scat and has a persons pink solo polo seat not a troxil flowered one.Bike is NOS!Anybody know how to date these from the serial numbers?Thanks,Keith.

AGE / VALUE:   E-bay item #1144302124 Schwinn exerciser posted by: ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 5/12/2001 at 8:53:35 AM
Good heavens!There is a Schwinn exerciser on E-bay right now! just like the one I just bought for $10.00! I see that I got a deal on mine and I didn't have to pay shipping too. Oh this thing is heavy. These came in a variety of models, one had a car alternator under this hood thing in the front of the bike.
These get donated to Rummage sales a lot. These were not a cheap item back in the day.
Serriously though? take a look at this and tell me what is usable on it to you? Not much, the spedo is set up for exerciser and the stingray cable is shorter too isn't it? The wheel is diffrent and is a 28 hole drilling and needs a hole drilled, only one brake too.
lift it with your legs and not your back!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   E-bay item #1144302124 Schwinn exerciser posted by kirk on 5/12/2001 at 3:12:31 PM
a few weeks ago i saw one identical to the one you mentioned. i studied it and even called a fellow sting-ray buddie. here is what i noticed with the exerciser. the cranks could be used i think, but for a junior, the sprocket can be used, but not on a stingray (unless it could be used on the fastbacks that didnt use the mag sproket), the speedo would probally work, but it doesnt have a bottom bowl (the glass and face looks really good and i think it probally the same speedo that many people bought and buy for the sting-rays), in earlier mentions, the rim could be used, it has a pretty nifty quick adjust gooseneck/handlebar adjustment that i would welcome to one of my stings that i let people ride at show and gatherings, the seat post could be used, the seat could be used for another bike, etc. there are probally some other things that could be used and probally one day some sting-ray people will buy them and part them out on ebay. i hope this helps. ps. i passed on the exerciser that i saw at the thrift store, eventhough it was in show condition.


   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   E-bay item #1144302124 Schwinn exerciser posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 5/13/2001 at 10:09:24 AM
The silver speedo housing is usable too as are the fittings for the spedo.

FOR SALE:    1 speed-CAMPUS GREEN-1969 SCHWINN STINGRAY FAIRLADY posted by: BRAD B. on 5/12/2001 at 5:09:25 AM
MY SCREEN NAME IS leewee911oo@aol.com

   RE:FOR SALE:    1 speed-CAMPUS GREEN-1969 SCHWINN STINGRAY FAIRLADY posted by matt on 5/12/2001 at 5:22:07 AM
thats a great price! is it in C-8 condition im intersted in that bike for my daughter. I live in Conn. ill send u mail and my address-but does it need a paint job?

AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Exerciser wheel question posted by: ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 5/10/2001 at 9:33:13 AM
Is it possible to pry the solid tire off of the rim and drill a hole for a valve stem, and put a air filled tire on this Schwinn 20 inch S-2 rim? It is from a Harvest Gold Exerciser I picked up for parts. Not a Airdyne but some other model they made. I was removing the speedo cable and other bits and I don't want this excellently preserved shiny rim to go to waste. It is a 28 hole drilling and I could put a Sturmey-Archer hub in this wheel. The nicely chromed extra long seat post fits my Balloon tire cruiser and the chain is most excellent because it is a good, strong, Sedis chain of good quality and long too. I have yet to mount the heavy 65 tooth sprocket on the Wasp and take it out for a experimental spin to try it out with the Sturmey Archer four speed hub.The stem is usable as is the wide Messenger seat. These do not get banged up much so the parts are in good condition.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Exerciser wheel question posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 5/10/2001 at 10:14:13 AM
When I find another exerciser, I will have a set of new condition Weinmann brakes. The darned thing was heavy, but they did that for a good reason so the person using it wouldn't fall over. It was stable.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Exerciser wheel question posted by Adam on 5/10/2001 at 8:43:16 PM
I have one of those S-2 rims (thanks for reminding me... I forgot I had it)! From what I understand, the Exerciser S-2 is about 1/4" narrower than a regular S-2 (bummer). But it should be do-able! I seem to remember reading somewhere in the past that someone had one laced up as a temporary on a Krate.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Exerciser wheel question posted by A friend on 5/11/2001 at 7:46:19 AM
Hi Christopher, Adam. I read your post, went out to the garage and pulled out one of these rims. Like Adam said there is about a 1/4in differance. I will admit I have never actually did this. I just had some time too kill before I headed out to work. I did notice that the spoke holes needed some deburring, since they were mounting a hard tire to it. I then took my dial caliper, and found my center, easy 1.000, Took my punch doted the eye, followed threw with a 1/8 .125, drilled that, continued with a 11/32. 33437, Then I took out my deburring tool, cleaned around the hole, followed with a rat tail fine file, Done! Mounted a tube,and tire, blew some life into it and, now I am bouncing this tire on the concrete. This job took me 1/2 hour to do. Thanks you guys'.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Exerciser wheel question posted by sam on 5/11/2001 at 9:40:36 PM
tried to mount one of those sprockets on an american--too large.let me know if you have better luck. The hub is a nice atom hub--sam

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Schwinn Exerciser wheel question posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 5/12/2001 at 9:05:03 AM
Oh drat! A pal suggested I use a hammer on the frame but he was joking! The crank is too heavy anyway.