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MISC:   What kind of Schwinn Pixie is this? posted by: Tom Manchester on 5/29/2001 at 10:01:06 AM
Please see thie picture at http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1654395&a=12667796&p=49402831 . This bike was my Fiancee's when she was a child. It is from the early 70's, and has the boy's crossbar as well. It looks a bit like a "Lil Tiger", but it has the Schwinn "S" seat (white and red) and larger fenders. The wheels are 16" including tires (hard rubber). I want to restore it for her, but I am trying to figure out the model, and if it has any value other than sentimental.

Thank you in advance for any help you can give me!

   RE:MISC:   What kind of Schwinn Pixie is this? posted by Cal on 5/30/2001 at 4:59:33 AM
Pixie is the model. Since it has the boy's crossbar, it is called a 'convertible'. Value? Maybe $75 - $100?

WANTED:   72 Manta Ray posted by: Dick on 5/29/2001 at 9:20:40 AM
Looking for: front and rear tire(s); seat (orange); what else do u have?
I live in Sandown, NH which is about 35 miles north of Boston, MA.

MISC:   Krate Rear Axle Disassembly posted by: Larry on 5/29/2001 at 7:07:12 AM
I have a question about how to take apart the rear wheel on my 1970 Orange Krate that I'm restoring. I have it down to just the axle with the gears pulled off. Now there's a part attached to the axle that keeps the spoke protector on. I have tried to unscrew this part but it is on hard. Is this a left hand or right hand thread? Any tricks here. I hate to use too much force and screw it up but I need to get this off so I can get the spoke guard off and clean it up. I also need to replace the rear wheel and all the spokes so this really needs to come apart. Thanks for the help.

MISC:   Early sting-ray sissybar posted by: Robert on 5/28/2001 at 10:07:25 AM
I picked up an early 3 holed bar that is not a high loop, and is stamped "schwinn" at the bottom of each leg. The length is between 25"-26". Has anyone come across one like this before? And does anyone have any info that they can share? No guessers please. Thanks!!!


   RE:MISC:   Early sting-ray sissybar posted by ron m on 6/1/2001 at 9:13:44 AM
i found 2 of these bars at a old schwinn shop. i asked the big boys(the dealers with 2500.00 stingrays) at memory lane they told me that they were late 65 early 66 replacement bars, used before the slider-bar came out

MISC:   Auction/Sell/Trade/Info session tonight at 10:00 pm Eastern posted by: degallina on 5/27/2001 at 4:30:05 PM
The CMBForum (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CMBForum) will host its first Auction/Sell/Trade/Info session tonight at 10:00 pm Eastern Time in their chat room. If all goes well this will be a weekly event. All are welcome!

MISC:   Fastback sprocket posted by: tim on 5/26/2001 at 6:24:37 PM
Does anyone know if Schwinn used a third sprocket on Fastbacks in 1966. In Liz Frieds book there's a picture of a early Schwinn ad for the fastback and the spocket isn't a sprint or mag type?

   RE:MISC:   Fastback sprocket posted by degallina on 5/27/2001 at 5:34:45 AM
Yes, its a Sprint sprocket.

   RE:MISC:   Fastback sprocket posted by degallina on 5/27/2001 at 5:41:03 AM
oops, misread your post. Now I see it in the book on page 36. Good eye, I've never seen this sprocket before either. Sorry.

   RE:MISC:   Fastback sprocket posted by Fastback Eddie on 5/28/2001 at 7:05:52 PM
that chainring was never used on the production bike, that was a promo bike put out before the fastback was released. If you look closer you will notice that the chain guard is also different (no chrome and rear mount are different) and also the stik shift is taller and has white decals.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Fastback sprocket posted by Cal on 5/29/2001 at 4:56:38 AM
Wow. I think you've just shown why you're called 'Fastback Eddie'!

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Fastback sprocket posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 5/30/2001 at 6:59:15 AM
Ok, where is the Promo bike today? Who has it? What was it's fate? The world may never know!

MISC:   stingray scrambler posted by: jackson on 5/26/2001 at 11:44:31 AM
How much is a black/grey stingray scrambler worth in very good condition? thanks

   RE:MISC:   stingray scrambler posted by chris.d on 5/27/2001 at 5:24:17 PM
not much not much a demand 4 it may b 50$

AGE / VALUE:   20" tires posted by: Robert on 5/26/2001 at 6:14:35 AM
I picked up a nice pair of 20" Carlisle whitewall knobby's. Were these intended to be used as an aftermarket option for Sting-Ray's or just as a replacement when the originals were worn out??


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   20 posted by Robert on 5/28/2001 at 10:24:42 AM
The begginer learns a lesson. The Carlisle's don't fit schwinn rims. Darn,darn,darn!!! They are soooo clean and cool. I temporarily swapped out my schwinn rims for some nice early Walds, just so I could have that "look" I wanted. Oh well??? Ride on!


MISC:   Springer forks posted by: Robert on 5/26/2001 at 5:53:07 AM
I'm still pretty new to the hobby, here's my question.
Aside from the ballooner 26" springers. What other sizes were available for the Sting-Rays. I know the wheels sizes from 16" to 20" will change the length of these forks. How does one measure these forks to make sure they have the correct size? And are there any special identifiers that would also help, like part #'s, "AS" bolts or "S" bolts???
I'm piecing together a '65 super deluxe, and was searching for a springer. I found a '70 apple krate that has been kinda just pieced together by some creative child some 20 plus years back. Anyway the front wheel on this krate was swapped to a '20, and there is a springer fork still on the bike. What I need to know is if it's for a sting-ray or krate????? Hope this was'nt too confusing.


   RE:MISC:   Springer forks posted by Robert on 5/28/2001 at 10:33:35 AM
Okay. Here we go again. The springer that came off the Krate did belong to it. I was looking for the correct sized one for a '65 super deluxe I'm putting together. For grins I mounted the fork on the '65 anyway. Looks cool. Kind of chopper-like with both whitewall knobbys running beneath. Ride on!


   RE:RE:MISC:   Springer forks posted by Cal on 5/29/2001 at 4:58:18 AM
I think the Krate and the Super DeLuxe springers are 24" long.

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Springer forks posted by Stan on 5/31/2001 at 5:24:09 PM
Cal, YOU are the weakest link! Krate and Super Deluxe springers are NOT the same length. A krate springer is 20 1/8" (the truss rods) and a super deluxe springer is 17 5/8" (the truss rods). Also, super deluxe springers are listed in the parts catalog as 20" spring fork chrome plated, part no. 2040-F. Krate springers are listed as part no. 2075-N. Clearly not the same model.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:MISC:   Springer forks posted by Robert on 6/24/2001 at 6:35:11 PM
Stan. You da man!! Thanks for the straight info. By the way I picked up an original 20" schwinn springer today for $80.
It's not perfect...but I'm satified none the less.


WANTED:   Needed: Sting Ray Pedals]]]]]]]]]]]] posted by: Jeff on 5/25/2001 at 7:19:05 PM
Lookin for '64/'65 Sting Ray pedals as see on pages 10/11 of Liz Fried "Schwinn Sting Rays" book- also interested in singles or "shorties" of same style--Ca$h or trades-Thanks!

MISC:   2-spd kickbacks posted by: C.D. on 5/24/2001 at 4:14:26 PM
Does anyone out there know the correct years,that the red,blue,and yellow band hubs were used on the 2-spd kickback Sting Rays? For example, red from 19--to 19--,blue from 19--to 19-- etc. Also were they on just certain models? I have a 1970 Orange Krate. What is correct for it? I would appreciate any and all info Thanks C.D.

   RE:MISC:   2-spd kickbacks posted by Cam on 5/25/2001 at 5:27:54 AM
A 2-speed is not correct on your Krate. They only came in 1 and 5 speeds.

The colors of the bands relate to the gear ratio of the hub, not the year. I think the blue bands were a higher ratio (so would work on a 20" wheel) and the yellow bands were a lower ratio for a 26" wheel.

Under the 'Resources' section of this site is something called the "Sting-Ray Summary" which describes the different years, colors, hubs, etc of Sting-Rays.

   RE:RE:MISC: 2-spd kickbacks posted by Tom on 5/29/2001 at 5:11:29 PM

You might want to doublecheck resources. 2 & 3 speeds were available too.


   RE:RE:RE:MISC: 2-spd kickbacks posted by Cal on 5/30/2001 at 5:01:40 AM
I gotta go with Cam on this one. Krates only came in 1 and 5 speeds.

Sting-rays in general came in 1, 2, 3 and 5 speeds, but not Krates.

AGE / VALUE:   identifying red schwinn posted by: john on 5/24/2001 at 2:33:51 PM
26 inch, mens shwinn, i can't find a serial number on it, from an ebay auction, looks like maybe a corvette???, it has a 3 speed s/a with thumb shifter, incorrect saddle ( i think). schwinn tires, i will send pics in email. please email for pics, thanks. john.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   identifying red schwinn posted by Doug on 5/25/2001 at 3:01:36 PM
The serial # will be one of 3 places bottom of the crank housing,on the drop outs where the rear axel is attached to the frame or possably on the front where the stem and fork go through the frame the head tube good luck.If its not any of thaose places maybe you have a super rare bike which never got stamped.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   identifying red schwinn posted by john on 5/25/2001 at 5:33:38 PM
hi doug, THANKS, it was on the back near the rear axle like you said, i never thought it would be there, number is 7e12530, i think thats 56 or 57, im pretty sure its a corvette model, has some after market parts, thanks agin

MISC:   '65 Stingray info posted by: Andrew on 5/23/2001 at 5:35:53 PM
I'm restoring a February 1965 Stingray from ground zero and would like to know when Schwinn made the following changes - 1. added Chicago to the headbadge. 2. went from AS to S bolts 3. stopped using the Solo polo seat 4. when was the seat tube decal with little teeth discontinued? any info would help!

   RE:MISC:   '65 Stingray info posted by Phil on 5/24/2001 at 4:57:25 AM
Wow, those are great questions. I'm looking forward to the answers, too.

   RE:MISC:   '65 Stingray info posted by kratorama@aol.com on 5/24/2001 at 9:44:32 PM
your bike should have:
1. a non-Chicago headbadge;
2. AS seat clamp bolt;
3. a white "smoothy" seat (good luck!);
4. the decal with "teeth".

   RE:RE:MISC:   '65 Stingray info posted by Kevin C. on 5/25/2001 at 3:56:17 PM
It takes a high-loop sissy bar, too, and a yellow-oval Slik. Both are tough to find.

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   '65 Stingray info posted by Cal on 5/29/2001 at 5:00:00 AM
What are the changeover years for the items mentioned?

1. a non-Chicago headbadge;
2. AS seat clamp bolt;
3. a white "smoothy" seat (
4. the decal with "teeth".

FOR SALE:   goodyear usa made 20" tires posted by: Scott on 5/23/2001 at 3:34:49 PM
I put some of these on ebay...are they worth anything?

i have them in red and yellow

AGE / VALUE:   SEARS SCREAMER posted by: Ricky on 5/22/2001 at 10:00:05 PM
I have a screamer and Ive been told it is a late 60's model. It's in fair to average condition and is mostly original(I replaced a pedal, Slik and the shifter knob.)
It's a gold 5 speed with front and rear suspension and under the seat. And it's still got the goofy handlebars but the tape has come loose in spots.
I'm looking to sell it because im more into Schwinn stuff. I have nothing to compare prices with except the ridiculous prices on EBAY and I'd rather not deal with takiing it apart and shipment. But I am looking to get at least what it's worth. What's a fair price? Thanks for any response.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   SEARS SCREAMER posted by ricky on 5/22/2001 at 11:04:56 PM
It also has the short chaingaurd that is screwed into the rear fender, not the long chainguard that says screamer. Is $400 too much?

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   SEARS SCREAMER posted by Cal on 5/23/2001 at 5:07:36 AM
That is a reasonable price, but it's going to be hard to get that if you try to sell it locally. There are a lot more interested buyers on the web than in your local paper. I think you're going to have to pack and ship it..

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   SEARS SCREAMER posted by Rickykz@yahoo.com on 5/23/2001 at 5:43:08 PM
Well, It was in the paper and I only had two people who seemed somewhat interested. But it looks like I'll have to actually do some work and take it apart. Thanks for the info and if anyone is interested In a Sears Screamer($400 plus ship) Email me with Questions and I will have Pics soon. Thanks.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   SEARS SCREAMER posted by Phil on 5/24/2001 at 4:59:58 AM
It is not hard to take a part a bike and ship it. Here is a link to a discussion about packing which was posted here at olderoads last month: