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AGE / VALUE:   Is there a Date Code on Huffy Frames? posted by: Jack on 6/2/2001 at 3:34:28 PM
Is there date code information on a Huffy Frame serial number? Thanks.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Is there a Date Code on Huffy Frames? posted by Chris on 6/6/2001 at 7:24:58 AM
Based on a conversation with a long-time Huffy bike plant worker, and studying many Huffy bikes of this era, the following seems to apply to bikes from the mid-1950's to eraly 1970's (at least to 1972). The serial number consists of a single digit number followed by a letter (H and C are the only letters I have seen), and then followed by a 5 or 6 digit number. That first digit is the last digit of the year. Then you have to use other clues to determine the decade, as a 6 could mean 1956 or 1966. Other clues can be the model name, chainwheel design, rear dropouts. Examples: A Huffy Camaro cannot be older than 1967, as that is when Chevy introduced the car by that name. There was a new chainwheel design that I believe was introduced in 1962, that looks like a star. I have never seen rear dropouts with screw adjusters after the 1950's. Also, the presence of the 'BMA/6' sticker on the seatpost tube appears to have started in 1971 or 1972 (this was a bike mfg organization, which apparently promoted reflectors on the pedals and other safety devices). Hope this helps.

FOR SALE:   schwin fair lady posted by: tom bell on 6/2/2001 at 12:32:47 PM
I have a nice fairlady for sale not sure of the year serial number is on the head tube 6jo5297 real pretty turquoise and white good chrome,reflectors, whitewall tires,nice chrome rims, seat does have some tears. can anyone tell me what it is worth and is anyone interested? thanks

AGE / VALUE:   Facts are Facts posted by: Conrad on 6/1/2001 at 7:22:35 PM
Check out a couple of posts down & you will see Rickeys message to me. Forget the poor "kids in the hood". Let's not cloud the issue. Rickey sold me a bike and, as his item description on Old Roads stated: the "rust on these bikes will come off easy." I got the bike from him and, as many of you saw from the picture I posted on the Schwinn site, the bike was a rusted mess. Most of the parts that I had planned on using are unusable. Plain and simple: HIS ITEM DESCRIPTION WAS NOT ACCURATE. I would definetely not buy anything from Rickey sight unseen! I have done over 100 transactions on the internet without a problem: this is the first negative feedback that I've put out on a transaction. In my experience people have been generally upfront and honest. If someone makes a mistake they will work with you. And then there is Rickey...."The sign on the wall says all sales final"(his words from an earlier posting). Keep that in mind when buying something from him.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Facts are stupid posted by Kids in the Hood on 6/4/2001 at 9:44:38 AM
We are all reel playa's here so let's get right to the point I would like to discuss givin the"""KID'S IN THE HOOD"" a bad name so put it this way a LEAST were not 40 years old and still riding a piece of junk bike that was made in the 1940 that's funny right there ain't IT!

O' also about buyin from Rickey I buy something from him every month He has never sold some thing that was a piece of junk to anybody I should know I go up there week so I know all of His customers are alway's satisfied One has already got 5 or 6 bikes fixed up tHERE.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Facts are stupid posted by Bob on 6/4/2001 at 5:50:12 PM
It looks like you Kids in the Hood are giving yourselves a bad name without any outside help. Besides the poor grammar, you just cut down everybody that collects bikes with your last post. Not a very good way to influence these people with your opinion. Now that IS funny right there.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Facts are stupid posted by Califoria Kid on 6/5/2001 at 7:33:45 AM
Yea I believe it's really FUNNY "ha ha ha"NOT I thought I told all Conrad's friends to show me what your made of or go get a real life O' yea I spell like that to get on people nerves like yours Know thats Funny ain't IT"" HA HA HA HA"" in yo face.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Facts are stupid posted by Bob on 6/5/2001 at 5:55:11 PM
I'm sorry to inform you, but the fact that you are coming accross as someone who is uneducated to everyone who reads this forum does not get on my nerves. I think its great! By the way, "California" has an "n" and "now" doesnt have a "K".

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Facts are stupid posted by Jughead on 6/5/2001 at 9:39:46 PM
All of you guys have said all there is to say so lets give it a rest please!

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Facts are stupid posted by Jason on 6/5/2001 at 10:05:30 PM
I agree: Go find a chat room for your arguing please. Lets keep the posts bicycle related. Thanks.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Facts are stupid posted by jackleg on 6/20/2001 at 4:18:40 PM
learn how to restore old bikes

AGE / VALUE:   Three arrows sprocket. posted by: stratbike on 6/1/2001 at 7:28:12 PM
I'm looking for this old three arrows sprocket.
If you have one or know where I can get one, please
let me know. Will pay cash or trade.
Thank you.


AGE / VALUE:   fastback sprocket posted by: ron m on 6/1/2001 at 8:38:07 AM
i found 2 of these sprockets nos they were made by nevlar. the french co. that made all or the sprint parts,hubs.chainwheels ect. but other than that picture ive never seen one on a bike, but good eye

AGE / VALUE:   Looking for rear 28 hole drum brake????? posted by: stratbike on 6/1/2001 at 7:51:32 AM

I'm building a project bike and I'm looking for a part that
I don't know if anyone ever produced.
Looking for a quality Atom-type 28 hole, yep!, 28 hole
rear drum brake assembly.

Anybody got one for sale? a 70's 28 hole disc brake
set up would work, too.

Even if you don't have one but know of one that was
produced, please contact me and let me know.


   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Looking for rear 28 hole drum brake????? posted by sam on 6/3/2001 at 2:11:09 PM
Ardi made one--well not exactly a 28 hole atom type.but the one I got came on a 28 hole hub.Seems this drum brake fits on a flip flop hub!so you can change it to whatever hub you need.Also check out worksmans cycles they use drum brakes on there bikes--sam

MISC:   Fork removal posted by: dwl on 5/31/2001 at 10:02:31 PM
I'm trying to remove the forks on this schwinn. I screwed the top bolt in a few turns, and tapped it with a hammer, but it just went through the threads.. they are stripped and I just made it worse. The forks are still solidly connected to the handlebars. Can I just get a long nail, put it in the hole, and pound on it? The parts are shot, so I don't care about messing them up.

   RE:MISC:   Fork removal posted by JOEL on 6/1/2001 at 12:46:39 PM
Yes, anything that will fit through the hole and reach the wedge.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Fork removal posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 6/1/2001 at 1:57:13 PM
Wear eye protection and take your time.

   RE:MISC:   Fork removal posted by ? on 6/2/2001 at 12:00:09 AM
maybe the first mistake was "i screwed the top bolt in a few turns". IN being the key word. once again, IN being the keyword. making it tighter, before trying to losen it is not allways a good thing. course, i could be wrong.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Fork removal posted by mike on 6/2/2001 at 6:25:09 AM
Since the simple stuff didn't seem to work, After soaking the parts with a penetrating oil (WD-40 or Tri-flo) Try using the old bolt to dislodge the wedge by holding the bolt at an angle to keep it on the shoulder of the wedge and using a serious hammer, OR if you really don't care about these parts, use a sawsall and cut the gooseneck off at the top of the headtube, this will allow you full access to the stuck wedge which then should be simple to remove...Happy trails

AGE / VALUE:   76 Lil Chic posted by: Gary M on 5/31/2001 at 6:23:49 PM
tossed a 20 at a guy in the flea market for a 76 Lil Chic, in pretty nice shape, with incorrect bars. got it back, minor cleaning, put on a set of Wald StingRay type bars, with the original grips. No shorty bars in the shop, sorry. Raised the seat up, it looks nice. one tiny rip in the seat, no biggie. Should i keep it or peddle it? i see some for $50 think it will go up? i would be just as happy to see some smiling young girl get it and take care of it.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   76 Lil Chic posted by chris.d on 6/2/2001 at 9:06:36 PM
i hope they go up i got a few in ex shape..i mean the lil tiger is going for 300$

MISC:   to whom it may ! posted by: RICKEY on 5/31/2001 at 11:15:55 AM

   RE:MISC:   to whom it may ! posted by Anon on 6/1/2001 at 5:25:58 AM
I've dealt with people who routinely will say they are unhappy with a bike I've sold them. Then I say ship it back and I'll refund everything, including all shipping both ways. Then they say "Well, just send me $50 and I'll keep the bike. I think it was worth $50 less than what I paid".

This is a standard scam, so be careful!

   RE:MISC:   to whom it may ! posted by John on 6/1/2001 at 8:30:51 PM
Kids in the hood? When did this Forum become "ghetto"?

   RE:RE:MISC:   to whom it may ! posted by shrep@sletta. pot on 6/2/2001 at 12:04:16 AM
i think you just admitted being "conrad". reading the post on the top of this page, then noticing that the emphasis is on "kids in the hood", you gave yourself away. just pointing out that you need to be smoother when disguising yourself.

   RE:MISC:   to whom it may ! posted by John on 6/2/2001 at 10:31:24 AM
As you will notice, I've posted my email address in this post. Actually though, I think that Conrad made a very good point. What 15 year old boy would buy a girls banana seat bike? All of the fifteen year old boys that I know are saving up and thinking of buying their first car. They would not be caught dead riding around the neighborhood on a girls banana seat bike and would certainly not actually buy one as 15 year old Michael claimed he wanted to do. Where is the insult in questioning this? It seems to me that Conrad was the one who was insulted. He asked a simple question and Michael called him stupid and told him to shut up.

   RE:MISC:   to whom it may ! posted by Matt on 6/4/2001 at 7:23:23 AM
I've dealt with Conrad before, in fact I sold him a Murray Eliminator, pretty much sight unseen as the pics I had weren't very good. I did my very best to describe the bike and he was happy with our deal. The point to this story is that we all have different opinions about the condition of bikes and how we rate them. The best rule of thumb is that while buyer should beware, sellers should be fair with their description and offer a money back offer on deals where pics are bad or non-existent. A little courtesy and common sense goes a long way. If you're not sure, error on the side of common sense.....

   RE:RE:MISC:   to whom it may ! posted by Kids in the Hood on 6/4/2001 at 9:14:16 AM
Right on Rickey , Conrad just thinks he's better than us

   RE:RE:RE:MISC:   to whom it may ! posted by jackleg on 6/20/2001 at 4:31:40 PM
learn how to restore bikes.check out how to remove rust.elbow greese!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WANTED:   Iverson Head Badge posted by: Russell on 5/31/2001 at 9:53:42 AM
I need an Iverson Head Badge for a Dragstripper. I picked up a really poor condition purple girls Dragstripper awhile back minus the head badge.

AGE / VALUE:   schwinn orange krate (1969 or1970) all origanal posted by: Jan on 5/30/2001 at 7:38:27 PM
I have a Schwinn Orange Krate (1969 or1970). It's all original. Great condition. Some rust. About what is the value?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   schwinn orange krate (1969 or1970) all origanal posted by Doug on 6/6/2001 at 5:57:05 PM
Hi Jan if this bike is Truely origional in every way and in great condition an 8 and a half on a scale of 10 it could be quite valuable,have seen mint condition krates sell for 4 to 5 thousand dollars have a expert HONEST apraiser look at it so you dont get scre- - -. good luck

MISC:   How to adjust/turn handlebars on stingray? posted by: dwl on 5/30/2001 at 4:41:27 PM
this is on a 70's schwinn stingray fairlady 20". I'm trying to turn the handlebars around entirely (or the gooseneck thing that the handlebars mount to anyway)

Is this possible? on my mountain bike you can loosen the top nut and the handlebars can turn/adjust.. but on the schwinn, I took the top nut out alltogether but the handlebars are still solidly connected to the forks.

Is it just stuck? it wouldn't budge. What does that bolt even attach to? it's about 6" long and seems like it'd loosen the handlebars. any help would be appreciated.

   RE:MISC:   How to adjust/turn handlebars on stingray? posted by mike on 5/30/2001 at 5:17:42 PM
DWL, Make sure that the bolt is threaded a few turns into the wedge block at the bottom of the gooseneck and then tap a few times down on the head of the bolt (hopefully with a rubber mallet), this should dislodge the wedge piece and you should be able to then remove the gooseneck, Good Luck

MISC:   Serial # info posted by: Jack on 5/30/2001 at 12:56:24 PM
Does anyone know if Schwinn's serial numbers can be broken down, such as how many bikes produced of that model, day of the month ect. I know the month/year letter codes, but what statistics do the numbers have? Any feedback is helpfull. Jack

   RE:MISC:   Serial # info posted by goob on 5/30/2001 at 3:50:26 PM
other than date NON WHAT SO EVER

   RE:MISC:   Serial # info posted by mike on 5/30/2001 at 5:24:41 PM
Jack, Scroll down further and someone had refered to the Antique Classic Bicycle News, which seems to have more info than just the month and year, that might help...

AGE / VALUE:   western flyer wildone III posted by: randy on 5/30/2001 at 8:30:45 AM
looking for imfo on a westernflyerIII (3) it is in good condition
can any one tell me a value,age anything else
thanks for your time
I also have some baloon tire bikes and one old tanden(baloon tire)
let me know Randy

AGE / VALUE:   apple crate posted by: mike olvera on 5/29/2001 at 7:40:02 PM
i have a apple krate it has every thing on it small tire,disc brake,banana seat with shocks lights and speedometer ect. i would like to know what the value is. it has rust on the crome but the body seems like it is in good shape,also it is not missing any decals. is it collectable?

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   apple crate posted by jacky on 6/2/2001 at 12:07:40 AM
or it could be worth it's weight in gold if you add a bunch of incorrect parts, call it n.o.s., and claim its been in an attic for 30 years unmolested by the original owner. how's that for advice!!!!!!!!!!!!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   apple crate posted by Cal on 5/30/2001 at 4:57:17 AM
Certainly collectible. It could be worth anywhere from $300 to $1500 depending on features and condition.