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MISC:   need help with a serial # (schwinn) posted by: sam on 4/13/2002 at 3:51:15 AM
I have a girls 20" yellow schwinn bike with the serial number "j001967" . I'd like to know what make or model this is. any help is appreciated. sam

AGE / VALUE:   20 inch bike posted by: kevin on 4/11/2002 at 11:47:38 PM
i found a 20 inch bike at pawn shop...stingray type frame..apehangers..white front mudflap w/maltese cross on it..leopard print seat..and the word 'marauder' on the chaingaurd..also has maltese cross on guard too any info would be great thanks..

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   20 inch bike posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 4/12/2002 at 12:44:15 AM
My wild, uneducated guess is I'll say C.C.M. which is Canada Cycle and Motor.

What say you guys, What does he have?

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   20 inch bike posted by Cal on 4/12/2002 at 12:54:01 PM
Didn't Ross make a Maurader?

FOR SALE:   FS small bike collection posted by: Eric on 4/11/2002 at 9:16:13 PM
Sold the Raleigh Chopper and the 60s Schwinn Jaguar. Still availabe: one 1968 customized Mini Twinn, one 1969 Koal Krate, one 1969 Stingray with 2 speed hub, one huffy Wheel, one Apollo Swinger II, one 1969 Sears Screamer, and one 1968 Sears Screamer. Prices have been reduced and photos are available. Thanks Enrique and Steve for their purchases. Still need more room so email me with your desires.

   RE:FOR SALE:   FS small bike collection posted by Thom Glass on 4/25/2002 at 5:53:36 PM
How much for the sting Ray?

FOR SALE:   FS Carnival Bumper Car from the 60's posted by: Eric on 4/11/2002 at 9:11:29 PM
Bumper car is in need of some parts. It needs its headlights not that hard to replace. The interior needs to be releathered. This would make one really cool addition to any reckroom or livingroom. Add a side tray and you can eat watching your favorite movies at home. This is for the man who has everything. Asking $300 must pickup in Chicago or make arrangements for delivery. Photos are available.

AGE / VALUE:   derailers posted by: ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 4/11/2002 at 1:53:50 PM
What derailers do you save when you see a old bike?
What brands, models?

Shimano Eagle, save or let it go?

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   derailers posted by Cal on 4/12/2002 at 12:55:09 PM
I save on Schwinn and Huret.
Never come across anything better.

AGE / VALUE:   Interesting Schwin Sting Ray Slick posted by: ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 4/10/2002 at 1:57:51 PM
The origonal Schwinn slick has diffrent lettering and IT IS NOT raised. The re- pop or newer Schwinn tire DOES HAVE RAISED LETTERING and a diffrent look to it.
Same size diffrent time period. Of course, the origonal is best.
Origonal was $150.00 per tire
The reproduction was cheaper, like $50.00 or $60.00

If I was to pay retail(gasp!) $150.00 for a bike tire, the gods of vintage bikes would punish me. Garage sale finds would cease immediately. It was cool to hold the two tires and compare them. This particular shop is haunted by a major Schwinn collector dude who has like one of everything new in the box! Yipes!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Interesting Schwin Sting Ray Slick posted by butnut on 4/11/2002 at 7:44:09 AM
Hi Christopher. It's been many years since I've seen and original Krate RWL slik. I'm certain the letters were raised hence the term RWL. I have a repop on my Orange and have 3 blackwall and white wall gripper NOS Schwinn sliks and all have the raised letters...since I don't have an original RWL in front of me, I can't say for certain, but the fact that you saw one is interesting. Was the lettering just 'printed' on the sidewall? I'm happy with my current collection of bikes so I'm glad I'm not shopping and payin' all those 'crazy' prices for parts.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Interesting Schwin Sting Ray Slick posted by ChristopherRobin2@starmail.com on 4/11/2002 at 1:52:11 PM
Well, I'd better clarify this. The origonal letters were slightly raised and not just printed. The repop tires have the letters raised way out and it looks grotesque. The two tires are diffrent looking I believe so they don't get confused as origonal old stock.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Interesting Schwin Sting Ray Slick posted by butnut on 4/11/2002 at 11:18:21 PM
Ah yes. Thanks for the clarification. You're right...the repop RWL is very pronounced and looks real 'cheese ball' compared to the original letterings. Quality and attention to the tiniest of details really meant something in the 'old days'. That's why I love old things so much and why some appreciate and will pay more for the original good stuff. I met a collector who has an awesome collection of bikes and showcases full of NOS parts and bikes. Like a visit back in time.

MISC:   What model were these Schwinn bikes posted by: TerrierMom on 4/10/2002 at 2:23:13 AM
I can only describe the bikes in detail---no serial numbers, etc, as both were sold long ago when I was a child!! I had 2 different Schwinn bikes as a child in the 1970's. The first was a smaller child's bike. I believe it had 16" wheels, plus training wheels. It was bright yellow, with a silvery white banana seat with glitter. The seat was separated into segments giving it a pillowed effect. It had the high handle bars like a Sting Ray or a Krate. The grips were plain yellow like the bike---they were not glittery the way some Schwinn grips were. I don't remember if the frame was a boys or a girls. It would have been a 1970-1972 model, most likely a 1971. I thought I remember it being a Pixie, but tthe pics I've seen of those here and elsewhere on the 'Net don't have the banana seat. I clearly remember the banana seat! It could have been a Lil Tiger, but I don't think it was. It was 1 speed and had a coaster brake

The other bike was a 20" girls bike. It also looked basically like a Sting Ray. It was sky blue, a kind of deep sky blue. It had the high handle bars with blue grips to match the bike (no glitter). It didn't have a sissy bar---that part was low. It had a white banana seat with pink and blue floweres with green leaves. There may have been yellow in the flowers as well. It was a 1 speed with a coaster brake. It would most likely have been a 1974 model, but could have been a 1973 or 1975. If someone could list some of the model names for girls Schwinn bikes with banana seats it might jog my memory. I know about the Fair Lady, but haven't seen a good pic to compare with my memory. Besides, I was SUCH the tomboy, that I'm not sure I'd have consenting to have a bike called the Fair Lady, hee-hee! I'm amazed today I even put up with the flowered seat, given how tomboyish I was then! I don't think it was a Slik Chik, but it's been a looooonnng time! I gave the bike to a younger neighbor boy when I got a 10 speed Varsity at the age of 10 or 11! That would have been 1977 or 1978! TIA! I wish I had more in the way of serial numbers! Wish I had the bikes, too-I'd have them for my kids! TIA again!

   RE:MISC:   What model were these Schwinn bikes posted by butnut on 4/10/2002 at 6:52:25 AM
That 16" yellow Schwinn sounds just like a Midget Sting Ray. Built exactly like it's big brother but in 16". Everything was scaled down to work with the 16" frame although I can't say for sure about the handlebars. I restored a yellow one for my friend and built a matching Flamoyant Red 16" girls Midget with a later year frame and Midget boys parts...slant Pixie handelbars were used on both. Your girls bike could have been a 'Lil Chik' as this model had the flower power seat and pastel colors. The Midget would be kinda hard or expensive to find, but most girls bikes can still be found cheap at thrift shops or Ebay. Schwinns last forever...so do the memories.

   RE:RE:MISC:   What model were these Schwinn bikes posted by TerrierMom on 4/10/2002 at 7:00:40 PM
Thanks!! I actually found a picture on this site that is the spitting image of my old yellow Schwinn the link is:http://oldroads.com/pqdb_img.asp?p=http://members.aol.com/VVVintage2/disp/osrjj1.gif&mod=Sting-Ray_Junior&mak=Schwinn_-and it is a Sting Ray! The only thing is, I don't remember the lettering on it being black! Could it have been a Lil Chik? Ah, well, doesn't really matter. I think my blue bike WAS a Fair Lady--I saw a pic online of a Fair Lady from the time period mine was from with a good view of the Fair Lady name on the chain guard, and that looked VERY familiar! I saw another pic of two Fair Ladys and they both looked much like my bike, and even appeared to have flowered seats like I remember mine having. Too bad there wasn't a close up of the seat! Again, thanks for your help!! Yet another hobby I want to involve myself in when I am at last employed in a job that pays a living wage! Worked in social services for year, finally gave it up because I was sick of being destitute! Now I'm 3/4ths of the way through a computer engineering program, so when I graduate, I hope to get involved more heavily in all the things I like--classic bikes among them! Thanks Again!

   8 months 'til graduation---How will I last till then? posted by TerrierMom on 4/11/2002 at 2:05:09 AM
I am going to have to control myself, or I'll be trying to hit any and all Classic bike shows in New England! I want to buy an Apple Krate for one of my brothers--he had a 1971 model that was stolen, and the bike shop they went to to replace it told my parents and brother Schwinn didn't make that model anymore--poor kid was devastated! I just found a couple of websites with pics of something called a Sting Ray Pixie---both looked like my first Schwinn, save for the color! Well, at least I'm not going senile in my mid 30's---I THOUGHT I rememmbered having a Pixie!

   RE:MISC:   What model were these Schwinn bikes posted by butnut on 4/11/2002 at 7:53:20 AM
Hey T-mom. Sounds like you got bitten by the bike bug. I got started in my 30's and it was a blast...met tons of nice folks and even made extra bones doing resto work and painting. My 2 boys grew up knowing nothing but the real Schwinn bikes...kinda kool as that's what I remember and loved. The thrill of the hunt...going to garage sales and the swap meets and finding gold...for pennies! Those days are gone now ...I love Ebay, but it has created an inflated price for a lot of stuff that only collecters and builders want...ouch! Have fun and good luck. Shaaawiiiiiing!

   RE:RE:MISC:   What model were these Schwinn bikes posted by Cal on 4/12/2002 at 1:22:43 PM
Yeah TerrierMom, you're hooked.
If you are in New England you can go to the open house in Massuchusetts they're advertising here. The ad says a dozen sting-rays and krates. Maybe you'll find an Apple Krate.

I wish there was an open house or show out my way (northern CA)

AGE / VALUE:   TYPE OF BIKE posted by: BOB on 4/9/2002 at 9:59:18 PM

FOR SALE:   Old Schwinn and Raleigh dealer Open House - 28-APR-02 posted by: VVVintage Vintage Bicycles at OldRoads.com on 4/9/2002 at 4:20:44 PM
A shop in our area (Massachusetts) is having an Vintage Bicycle sale on Sunday, April 28, 2002.
They are placing all of their new bikes downstairs and filling their shop floor with over 100 vintage bicycles, including at least a DOZEN STING-RAYS and KRATES.
They've been a Schwinn/Raleigh dealership since 1969 and have some great bikes.
We'll be posting a larger notice with directions, pictures and more info shortly. In the meantime, mark your calendars!

VVVintage Vintage Bicycles

FOR SALE:   FS krate like Mini Twinn posted by: Eric on 4/7/2002 at 9:15:29 PM
This is a 1968 Orange Mini Twinn customized to look like a krate. It comes with a 5 speed shifter, new bow pedals, new orange grips, new orange krate rear seat (similar to 68 krate model), front krate type but smaller seat w/ S stripe, 5 speed krate wheel, Stingray speedo, and Schwinn Cruiser springer. Asking $1400. If you want it with the Schwinn Krate front Atom hub the price is $1600.

AGE / VALUE:   Raleigh, RO30-record ace-high tnsible- Stunto/weinmann Ral;eigh- posted by: Sofia B Bunge on 4/7/2002 at 6:10:51 AM
I have a old Raleigh, women`s, racing, red, RRA Record Ace RO30, high tensible,"Raleigh Suntour". It also has a lock in the chain with a key. The number is NI 9019510. It is in excellent conservation. I think it has 40 years. The seat is Brooks CR30 Thank you, Sofia Bunge

WANTED:   HUFFY RAIL/SLING SHOT STYLE FRAME posted by: KENT on 4/7/2002 at 6:03:36 AM

AGE / VALUE:   WANTED-HUFFY RAIL/SLING SHOT STYLE FRAME posted by: KENT on 4/7/2002 at 6:03:36 AM

FOR SALE:   Huffy wheel, Ross Apollo, 69 Screamer, 68 Sears Screamer, Ross Apollo, Schwinn Jaguar posted by: Eric on 4/7/2002 at 5:21:16 AM
If you are interested in any of these email me at lschwinnman@aol.com. There are other bikes for sale. There is a 69 Stingray Coaster, a 68 yellow band hub off a 68 Mini Twinn that is in very very good condition, it comes with an S-2 rim (bike with 2 speed hub and rim $200 plus shipping)

FOR SALE:   FS a bumper car from carnival posted by: Eric on 4/7/2002 at 5:19:26 AM
Here is something different for those who have everything. It is missing the headlights but that isn't hard to replace. Asking $300. Must come to pickup in Chicago.