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MISC:   New Raleigh Forum posted by: Kurt K on 6/5/2004 at 7:15:52 PM
Hello folks,

I just wanted to let you all know that I have created a new Raleigh Bicycle discussion forum for the discussion of all classic Raleighs, including the Raleigh, Robin Hood and Glider Choppers (Eatons Of Canada). The forum also has a Repair & Maintanance section, along with Raleigh-specific Wanted and For Sale sections.

The forum can be accessed via the below link:


Please note: This forum is not meant to compete with existing forums. I created this forum for the express reason that I could not locate a fourm online that was designed specifically for the discussion of all classic Raleighs and related brands, and was in a up-to-date, easily navigable format.

Please, do not take this forum as an insult to any other related discussion board!

I hope you all enjoy.

Take care,


WANTED:   " the wheel " posted by: marty on 6/1/2004 at 11:36:18 PM
looking for a huffy wheel with drag brake . i had a blue one , but someone told me they also came in green . is this true ??? i will take one in any condition as long as it's all there !!! PLEASE HELP ! ! ! ! ! !

   RE:WANTED:    posted by Robert on 6/8/2004 at 11:50:44 AM
Check out this bike on ebay


MISC:   Aluminium Wheels posted by: Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/31/2004 at 5:31:02 PM
Been in excess of 30 years since I've detailed a "new" bicycle and whilst polishin' up the Rat Fink yesterday, I got to wondering...

What, if anything, do y'all use on aluminium rims to keep 'em shiny, spiffy and nice?


Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:MISC: Aluminium Wheels posted by Stacey on 6/1/2004 at 10:09:51 AM
Never-Dull does it for me!

   RE:MISC:   Aluminium Wheels posted by ziggy on 6/1/2004 at 8:56:49 PM
Too light and get bent too easy. Keeping rims shiny is part of owning a hot piece. >: )

   RE:MISC:   Aluminium Wheels posted by Russell on 6/4/2004 at 8:01:45 PM
Maybe something like Mother's Mag aluminum polish. Comes in a little red can at your car parts stores.

   RE:RE:MISC:   Aluminium Wheels posted by ziggy on 6/5/2004 at 12:52:20 AM
It's good stuff. >: )

   RE:MISC:   Aluminium Wheels posted by MAX on 6/8/2004 at 7:10:06 PM
Mother's aluminium polish works great
i used it on my 37 Silver King and it's doing a great job

AGE / VALUE:   The Flying Wedge 005 posted by: dent on 5/30/2004 at 9:21:36 PM
I bought an AMF musclebike today and was told it was a 1969 The Flying Wedge 005. The paint is a red to green fade, It appears all original and should clean up nicely, what model years were wedges built? What price value does this model hold in the market? Thanks!

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   The Flying Wedge 005 posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/31/2004 at 2:44:21 PM
Intersting find. I'm not familiar with the AMF "Flying Wedge", though I do no at about that time, AMF was allied with "Hercules", a British manufactured bicycle. Is the bike a 3-speed? And if so, is it Shimano or Sturmey-Arher. If the latter, the hub should be date coded with the month and year of manufacture.

Enjoy and good luck with the new ride!


Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   The Flying Wedge 005 posted by dent on 5/31/2004 at 11:02:59 PM
It is a 5spd console shift with an Shimano Eagle rear deraileur.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   The Flying Wedge 005 posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 6/1/2004 at 9:16:49 AM
Ah... yes, I had thought of that after I posted. The 005 should have tipped me off. Sounds like a neat bike!


Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   The Flying Wedge 005 posted by Conrad on 6/8/2004 at 5:15:31 AM
The bike should be a 16x20". It is an AMF Wedge Fantastic One 5-speed & should also have a click-stick console shfter. Want to sell it?

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   The Flying Wedge 005 posted by ziggy on 6/8/2004 at 11:34:35 PM
Don't sell that bike! It is a classic piece! If you wan't to sell it, wait until 2010 to sell it. Then the value would be really high. >: )

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   The Flying Wedge 005 posted by dent on 6/9/2004 at 4:56:40 AM
I'm liking it to much to sell it right now, it did clean up well and rides and shifts just as nice. Has a generator head & tail light,the 20x20 original "The Fast One" tires only needing air and the banana seat is perfect. I have a "Boy's Life" ad from 1970 showing "The Flying Wedge" and the frame design differs slightly than my 1969 "Wedge". The 1970 Wedge is minus Aerobee style chainguard and handlebars are taller and partially wrapped. Still looking for a pic of a 1969 "The Flying Wedge 005".

AGE / VALUE:   The new stingrays posted by: scott on 5/27/2004 at 1:43:12 AM
I dont see anything wrong with the chopper crazz. I was always hoping that it would come back in style any way. It will also get kids back on the bicycles. How often do you see kids on bikes now. I would ride my bike every day, just to stay out of the house. It was an advinture every day for me. Todays kids big adventures are on thier butts now with planned things to do by overprotetive parents. These kids these days are spoiled and exspect someone to take them everywhere. Lazy bunch! I had to get around myself or not go anywhere.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   The new stingrays posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/27/2004 at 9:25:24 AM
Amen to that. We've all heard the stories from our grandparents about their method of getting to school when they were kids. Walking miles through the snow, carrying their bucket of coal for the stove in the classroom. I personally had to walk a mile in bitter cold and dark during the arab oil embargo of 73 just to get to the BUS STOP.

What will the kids of today be telling their grandchildren? "Oh, we used to sit in mommy's minivan and watch videos while waiting for the school bus!"


Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   The new stingrays posted by Pat on 5/28/2004 at 11:32:15 AM
Hahaha - sitting in the minivan..!

I used to ride my bike everywhere.
I still do today and with gas over $2 per gallon I'll continue to use it for short trips.

Riding a unique looking bike (not a mountain bike or a silly road bike) makes it more fun.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   The new stingrays posted by ziggy on 5/28/2004 at 11:26:19 PM
That's what I mean. Too many kids aren't doing anything. And it really burns my a** that kids are slim and fit, yet they don't excercise or anything. They sit around doing nothing and their hobby is watching T.V. I was always a big kid, thinner and built now of course, but I could never understand it. Anyway, building and riding your own piece is enough to forget about the rest of the world and be free. Free with the USA in charge! Salute to our boys over there and to all that gave their lives for the freedom of our country. >: )

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   The new stingrays posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/29/2004 at 12:12:00 AM
I tellya what Ziggy... gettin' old is a bummer. When I was in my 20's, I could drop 10lbs in a week without hardly trying. Now, I eat next to nothing, ride my sad sorry arse off every night... and lose 3lbs in a MONTH. Oh well... I guess getting older sure beats the alternative!

More importantly, kudos to your point. 'Tis MEMORIAL DAY forthcoming. And that just aint a three day weekend at the end of May folks. It's a day of remembrance for all those that gave their lives in the solemn, steadfast belief that it was a requirement for all those at home to remain free.

And the following week will be the 60th anniversary of D-day. I've seen "The Longest Day" and of course "Saving Private Ryan". The latter being one of the most graphic depictions of the invasion. Gives me chills.

Tomorrow, myself and a bunch of motorcyclists will be riding in excess of 200 miles. We do that often, but I think I will propose at the beginning of the ride, we go "Pegs Down". When all those riding solo unfold their passenger footbegs in remembrance of all those who have passed on and are our "passengers" in spirit.

Y'all have a great weekend. Ride safe, ride LARGE!


Larry "Boneman" Bone

WANTED:   Chopper around 1976 to 1980 posted by: Scott on 5/27/2004 at 1:28:41 AM
I'm trying to find the chopper bicycle made during this time period. I cant remember who made it. It was chrome and had front forks like the current choppers. I think its was made to look like the caption american motercycle. I think it had american color stickers on it. The rake was extreme with a very long front end. Does anyone remember this bicycle and if so who made it.

   RE:WANTED:   Chopper around 1976 to 1980 posted by ziggy on 5/28/2004 at 11:29:13 PM
Are you talking about the Murray firecat? The bike had highrise bars, a triple tree frontend, and a bannana seat. The rake was very mild actually and the forks were in excess of three feet long. >: )

WANTED:   Sears Varoom Bicycle posted by: Bobby Reynolds on 5/24/2004 at 3:42:47 AM
I am looking for a Sears Varoom bicycle to replace one my brother had a a kid years ago. He like it a lot. It was given away without his knowledge and I would like to surprise him with one.
Thank You

AGE / VALUE:   GARAGE SALE FINDS posted by: Kevin K on 5/22/2004 at 1:28:02 AM
Hi Guys. Stopped at a garage sale today. There sat 2 Schwinn Stingray run a bout's. Both bikes were 1oo% original. Strong 8.5-9's. $4 each. I left my money home. My friend that was with me bought them, but not for me. BUMMER. Kevin

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   GARAGE SALE FINDS posted by Russell on 5/22/2004 at 2:15:49 AM
Nice friend. Two bikes and he wouldn't share the love.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   GARAGE SALE FINDS posted by Kevin K on 5/22/2004 at 12:34:07 PM
Greed is greed.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   GARAGE SALE FINDS posted by Kevin K on 5/22/2004 at 12:34:27 PM
Greed is greed.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   GARAGE SALE FINDS posted by ziggy on 5/23/2004 at 5:19:20 PM
That wasn't very nice of your friend. : (

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   GARAGE SALE FINDS posted by Kevin K on 5/25/2004 at 12:29:13 AM
Hi. Well the bikes were sold for a very handsome profit. I had no idea those bikes were worth so much. My friend gave me enough to take my wife and son out for a nice meal. That's thanks enough. Kevin

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   GARAGE SALE FINDS posted by Stacey on 5/25/2004 at 10:18:15 AM
Lesson learned... NEVER go to yard sales without money. Coz ya cain't spend wotcha ain't got. :-)

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   GARAGE SALE FINDS posted by ziggy on 5/25/2004 at 10:49:08 PM
That's right! I just wen't to a garage sale last week and I got an old rock'em sock'em robot kit! All for the price of 5.00! >: )

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   GARAGE SALE FINDS posted by Kevin K on 5/28/2004 at 12:38:12 AM
Amen Brother. It's truely amazing what $5 will still buy.

AGE / VALUE:   Iverson Chopper posted by: Randy Berrier on 5/20/2004 at 10:20:35 PM
I have come across an Iverson Chopper. It is purple with a black seat and redline tires. any help with this bike would be helpful. I want to buy it but do not know its value. Thanks, Randy.

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Iverson Chopper posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/26/2004 at 1:17:47 AM
Don't know as to the value, but there's some interesting stuff on Iverson bikes here:



Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Iverson Chopper posted by Randy Berrier on 5/26/2004 at 1:25:57 PM
I'm Sorry! That bike is a Charger not a chopper! Thanks, Randy

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Iverson Chopper posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/26/2004 at 11:01:05 PM
Sorry? No need for that, sir! I take it the link was helpful? Excellent. Have fun with the bike!


Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   Iverson Chopper posted by Randy Berrier on 5/31/2004 at 3:56:08 PM
Sorry Larry! No offense to you! What I ment was when I first posted the bike I said it was a chopper, but it is a charger. The web site you gave me was great! There are some wild bikes on that one. Thanks again, Randy.

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Iverson Chopper posted by wade on 6/10/2004 at 1:32:53 PM
if u can buy the bike for less than $90 you can't go wrong. heck i would give you 40 bucks more it if u do since i collect iverson bikes.. not a lot of people collect them since they don't pop up too often.. but great bikes nonetheless.

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   Iverson Chopper posted by bud on 7/13/2004 at 4:29:18 AM
Hey i have an iverson chopper i found in the garbage one day i know nothing except its an iverson and i know the serial #(on the headset) i only have the frame and apehanger handlebars left if anyone can please give me as much info im only 12 but i build custom bikes and i can sell that and get some cash to help me on my new project
thanx bud

WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by: Colin Krajicek on 5/20/2004 at 1:51:54 AM
I'm a new buyer and I saw an ad on the T.V. It looked awesome!!The bike that I'm looking for is like a modern day chopper.I would suggest that it has wide 10" tire/rim and not white-walled.I don't want the tires to be any smaller than 24" tall.

   RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by JimW. on 5/20/2004 at 6:48:12 PM
That was probably the new Schwinn Stingray Chopper. It's basically a 20" wheel size, though. You can check the new BikeRod&Kustom to see the forthcoming crop of adult-scale factory choppers. We haven't seen the forthcoming adult-sized Stingray Chopper, yet. http://bikerodnkustom.com

   RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by myke on 5/20/2004 at 9:22:50 PM
What your seeing a 2004 Schwinn Sting-Ray. You Can Check em out at their website..http://www.schwinnstingray.com/. Thier Schwinn says this about other models..."Plans for limited edition
models such as a smaller 16” bike, a larger 26” bike, a 20” girls’ bike, and even a trike for the
youngest cruiser are already underway." oh yeah the back tire is 20X 4 1\4. They Ride smother then most bikes you ride. They Also Seem to Turn heads quiet a bit.

   RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by ziggy on 5/21/2004 at 12:31:02 PM
That's not a stingray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's a chopper WANNABE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think it's really stupid looking. Now everyone will have one and will be like " Look at my STOREBOUGHT stingray!" Make your own chopper instead of wasting your money.

   RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by Robert on 5/22/2004 at 8:56:20 PM
I was visiting a Walmart just last week to check out those O.C.C. Stingray's. There was but one bike available that day. It was the chrome/red version. It was actually being held for a customer who called in earlier. This bike was kept safe behind the sporting goods counter, and there were some young boys checking it out, and I must say that they were absolutly thrilled about the prospect of getting their very own. Those boys for whom the bike market is targeting don't give a rats azz about mass production or one off customs, they are flipp'n out over THIS bike! And what a bargain at under $200.OO BUCKS !!! And I think it's great to get these kids back outside getting some healthy exercise, instead of wasting away in front of these computers.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by ziggy on 5/23/2004 at 5:28:01 PM
First of all... bite ME whoever posted that message. And a custom chopper that isn't STOREBOUGHT can be built better than that walmart piece for under 30$! No wonder why "everyoone" want's a chopper. They watch one episode of American chopper and they think they know everything about choppers. They are all wrong! Choppers didn't look like that when they first originated! I like American chopper don't get me wrong, but it is p***ing me off that everyone has a chopper t-shirt and they act like they know everything. I still think that "stingray" (wannabe) is stupid. But my two cents is probably making anyone who is reading this message frown. I'm not holding anyone back. Go waste 200$ on a piece of junk that every kid will have. Be sensible and be DIFFERENT than everyone else for once. >: /

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/25/2004 at 9:34:27 AM
Ah! Spirited exchange. A lot of excellent points being raised for sure. Personally, I rather like the looks of the "new" Stingray. Apparantly, so do many others as you simply can't locate the doggone things and they are selling for big-bucks over "list" on Ebay. Quite simply a case of supply falling way short of demand. At least so far. I agree with Ziggy on the "chopper" mentality and what they started out as opposed to what they've evolved in to. Thing is, "production" bikes built en-masse certainly have to be "toned down" considerably. I recently procured an Electra "Rat Fink" and the stupid freaking PAPERWORK I had to fill out regarding liability, etc. was NUTS. But then, it was procured in the Peoples' Republic of New Jersey, so I wasn't overtly surprised. I do own a custom chopper bicycle with 4' forks that was cobbled together and is a sheer blast as well. Schwinn is certainly on to something with that design. Don't know if they are the "leader", the "follower" or whatever... but with bikes forthcoming such as the Rat Fink, Phat Cyle "choppers" (I saw one listed on Ebay and it alluded to them going out of business???) and the awesome stuff that Nirve is coming out with, well, let's just say it's about TIME "cool" bikes were being produced again. I for one can't abide the $3000 techno-marvel, "arse in the air" roadbikes ubiquitous to the realm these days.

As to folks wearing OCC T-shirst, etc. I get a bit of a chuckle out of that. Would love to see the numbers there as I bet OCC is making more money on licensed merchandise than they are on their motorcycles at this point. Well... maybe not more, but I bet it's a good chunk of change.

Not to wish my life away... but I can't wait 'til August when the Nirve Cannibal, etc. is due to become available.


Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by BillG on 5/25/2004 at 1:03:12 PM
That new bike is just a cheap department store bike.

BUT!! It is unique and it wakes people up (kids and adults alike) to the fact that bikes aren't just Lance Armstrong bikes or radical mountain bikes or BMX bikes flying over railings.

Bikes can be cool cruisers and unique customs built from a pile spare parts. And for getting from point A to point B, they are faster than your feet or skateboard or razor scooter.

As somebody mentioned above, it just might make a few of those kids sitting in front of the computer take a walk out to the shed and look at the old rusty bikes in there and maybe try to put something together.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by ziggy on 5/25/2004 at 10:56:41 PM
Say what you wan't. Every kid on the block will have one and act sooooooooooooo tough on it. Whatever. If you all wan't the same bike as everyone else and not be unique AT ALL, Walmart is waiting. Please waste money on a piece of junk so your kid will ride it for a week and then forget about it and beg you for something else. You will probably be selling it for 10.00 when you throw together your own little yard sale. Like I said before: Be sensible, be unique. If you don't wan't to be this, Walmart is waiting

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/26/2004 at 3:11:07 AM
Gee Ziggy, why don't ya tell us how you REALLY feel? ;-) OK, so there's no love lost between you and the new "Stingray". And you're right... it's a Dept. store bike. A "wannabe" perhaps, yes. Definitely MASS produced. And you are absolutely right regarding every kid wanting one / having one, whatever. The doggone things SELL. Eventually, they may be ubiquitous.

Thing is, you and I and everyone else that has a radical, custom chopper or two will STILL be unique, eh? Yeah, there will be a day when I will see a neighborhood kid cruising on one of those and I will pull up next to him with my 4' forks and my front tyre that comes around a corner 5 minutes before I do... and that kid on the Stingray will be rubbin' his jaw cuz it hit the ground so hard.

I would have to imagine that eventually, that rear wheel / tyre will become available separately. Could be some potential there, eh?

In the end, it all comes down to personal preference and choice. I kinda like the silly thing. For what it is, it's pretty neat. Would I buy one? Nah. Too small first of all. And with the new spate of high end production Choppers soon to be available, it makes it that much easier to pass on the "Stingray". I'm holdin' out for the new Nirves. They are a little more to my liking.

Regards! Ride safe!

Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by ziggy on 5/26/2004 at 10:51:33 PM
Finally! Someone sees my point! Same here. If I see some chump on one of them, I will pull up next to the kid on my "Lucifer" chopper and he will probably fall over in awe. He will ride home as fast as he can to get away. The "special" neck gusset would frighten him, then the color would get his attention, then the "special" sissy bar would scare him away completely. When my chopper is done, then everyone will see why that kid will ride away in fear.

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by Larry "Boneman" Bone on 5/26/2004 at 11:10:39 PM
By all that is holy... all who enter here are witnessing the birth of...


Well... maybe not the birth... maybe the re-birth. I'm sure that there are folks that fear bicycles...

One thing though... as a "Biker" (i.e. motorcycles), I have learned that no matter what my thoughts or opinions of another biker's "ride", I always respect the fact that they HAVE a ride and DO ride it! Even though what they ride may not be to my liking. Heck, I might even deplore it. Also... we all gotta start somewhere!

Go easy on 'em with Ziggy. To your point, sounds like "Lucifer" would be as intimidating to them as that insane V10 "motorcycle" Chrysler built last year would be to me. ;-)

Additionally, don't rule out that some of them will be overwhelmed with ADMIRATION... and INSPIRATION... and they will ride away with the gears in their heads turning with thoughts like "I gotta build me somethin' like THAT!!!!"


Larry "Boneman" Bone

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by ziggy on 5/28/2004 at 11:34:23 PM
Those gears turning in their heads will be plans of copying someone else's design and calling it their own. As I said before, they will never be different especially if they use MY design that took weeks to plan out. I am different as you can tell, but they probably wouldn't wan't to build it anyway. It might interfere with their religion a bit. FYI I am NOT a satanist. >: )

   RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by chopperzzzz on 6/4/2004 at 3:09:02 PM
Ziggy- get a life, youre an idiot.

   RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by ziggy on 6/5/2004 at 12:57:53 AM
Who in the blue hell are you to tell ME to get a life? By the way youre is spelled " you're". Don't ever reply to me again. >: /

   RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by chopperzzzz on 6/7/2004 at 6:02:06 PM
Wow, that was a profound response. I'm shocked that you even know how to use an apostrophe (thats the ' in case you don't know.) Oh, and by the way, as long as you keep writing stupid things, I'll keep replying.

   RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by ziggy on 6/7/2004 at 7:23:43 PM
Are you saying that I'm stupid or something? How easy is it to use a freaking apostrophe. You just press the key and it magically appears on the screen. You must be stupid in the first place to spell "you're" wrong and insult others for doing somrthing correctly. Like spelling simple words. Keep replying. I don't care. Just beware of what you say whoever you are. And by the way, he's coming. >: /

   RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by chopperzzzz on 6/7/2004 at 7:47:00 PM
First of all...I find it highly amusing that in your bashing my forgotten apostrophe you talk about how you are so amazing for doing "somrthing" correctly. Wow, now that's SMART. And, by the simple fact that you are getting so angry, clearly you do care that I'm calling you out on your lack of intelligence (that means the capacity to acquire and apply knowledge,) just in case the word was too big for you to comprehend (to understand.) And just let it be known that no one knows what the hell you are talking about "he's coming." Wow, I know I'm scared, especially by that scary face you keep putting!!!!

   RE:RE:RE:WANTED: chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by JimW. on 6/8/2004 at 4:51:53 AM
I hate to interrupt a good flame-festival, but I have another comment on the sociology of the Schwinn Chopper. At least it's not one of those ugly pseudo-BMX bikes, ruling the market for the last decade or two, which lead kids to think that biking is about risking their necks doing stupid stunts they see on TV with them.

And bear in mind that most kids in the size range the Schwinn Chopper's made for don't have the skills to build their own bikes, and their Dads don't have tools they can use, like ours did, because they're mostly skill-less, TV-addicted couch potatoes.

I imagine that some kids getting those factory choppers will quickly start thinking up ways to kustomize them, as soon as every other kid on the block has the identical thing. And eventually, if the kid gets some encouragement, rather than sneers, from the cool older guy on the block with the hand-made chopper, he might just work his way up to building one of his own. What could possibly be bad about that?

   RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by chopperzzzz on 6/8/2004 at 7:08:24 AM
Jim- I completely agree with you. It's good to see not everyone is close-minded. If the kids like it (which is obviously who the bike was intended for) then who are we, as adults, to deny them of it because some think its too "cliche." And good for Schwinn, for finally hitting on a market that has been dead for so long. In a world of Playstation 2 and motorized scooters, its refreshing to see kids get excited about something as old-fashioned as a bicycle. And if kids can use the OCC guys as inspiration to one day build their own, then I think that is awesome, there are much worse role models in the world right now than some guys who chop bikes and make a few bucks doing it.

   RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by ziggy on 6/8/2004 at 11:48:52 PM
Obviously you don't take into account of how much of a freaking a**hole you're being. Oh there is that elusive "you're" again. Must be conspiracy, which is an ongoing event. (In case YOU didn't know) How old are you? You must be thirteen or something. A thirteen year old who is trying to sound like they're intelligent. (smart) He's coming to get you boy. Oh, and if you're so smart and everyone else is close minded, then lets all see your genious creation. I'm sure that with you're great, intelligent mind that your piece is better than everyone else's. If your alias (a person's second name) is chopperzzzz, then you have to have a piece to back it up. The dirt of an unamed grave is all that is needed to battle against him. Ever heard of Dimmu Borgir? The devil's cold heart will stop at nothing to steal your remaining soul. He won't hesitate (think twice) to take away your "intelligence" or lack of to bring you down. >: /

   RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by chopperzzzz on 6/9/2004 at 4:50:39 AM
Wow, thats real original...I'm glad to see that you used the same exact "big words" that I used. Did you copy and modify what I wrote before for that? And yes, you have hit the nail right on the head, if you want to think that I'm 13, than I can be 13, you are fighting with a 13 year old who's smarter than you are. Are you proud of yourself yet?

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by ziggy on 6/15/2004 at 12:45:55 AM
Who the hell are you? And why did you just get in the middle of this with such a stupid, random comment like that!? "What a crock" my ass! Keep talking, keep talking. >: /

   RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by ziggy on 6/15/2004 at 12:47:34 AM
Who the hell are you? "What a crock" my ass! Come on, keep talking. >: /

   RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by trikemaster on 6/9/2004 at 9:58:39 PM
Okay, ziggy you are a moron. I just ran into this website and I have to skip past your stupid "you think you're so cool yippety do da" garbage. Dimmu Borgir, yeah I heard of that terrible band that wears makeup like girls. And if he's coming, let me know when so I can put in some earplugs!! Oh, FYI, he's coming for YOU!! oooooo. Spooky. Yeah, heard of Leviathan? Babael? Astarot, Eurynomous, they're ALL coming for you!!! Oh man I'm scaring myself, where is my woobie??
By the way I have an adult trike with humongous ape hangers, been riding it for 3 years now, home made pa pow, so I know what you mean, but hey, I don't see these bikes all over the place yet. I learned long ago you don't get a prize for being original, just a sense of pride.

   RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by trikemaster on 6/9/2004 at 10:04:07 PM
REgarding the Nirve Cannibal, unlike the Schwinn, I don't see raked trees in that thing, which looks to me like it'd have massive positive trail, so the handling could be pretty wacky comparatively speaking. I'll have to check one out to be sure.

   RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by ziggy on 6/10/2004 at 1:45:48 AM
I don't have to "think" that I'm cool. By the way trikes suck. As for chopperzzzz, you still didn't talk about YOUR piece. I custom built mine. From SCRATCH. The real way. Rides great. If you are thirteen, your just being a fag. "I'm smarter than you, mommy and daddy buy everything for me, I go to a private school..." I couldn't give a flying f*ck if you are smarter than me. I think the world has too many ACOUNTANTS and NEUROSERGIONS anyway. And as for YOU "trikemaster", Dimmu Borgir doesn't wear makeup. You must be thinking of that pathetic band named Kiss. And as for anyone else, if you think that I'm stupid, or I write stupid messages, hear this. SCREW YOU! This excludes Larry Bone, Stacy, Sam, Gearhead, Sebastian and everyone else that is cool. Oh chopperzzzz, I thought I didn't have the knowledge to COPY someone else's message. !: 0 I couldn't possibly have the capacity to aqquire and apply knowledge like you! How stupid of me! Obviously this spoiled thirteen year old is smarter than me. Oh no! I have to go into a corner and feel bad because some punk on a bike site is calling me out on my knowledge level! Armaggedon is upon us! I have to go hide! Surprise! The sun will burn out in 7000 year and we will all be frozen to death! Obviously this kid would survive because he is soooooooooooo smarter than everyone else. Yep, that's what's going to happen. Even though his bones and flesh would be completely biodegraded in year 10,004, he would still be smart enough to escape. Why don't we all just bow down to you because you must be the next president. Your parents must be so proud. They will be proud of their son who was created by accident. Whoops! Hahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!
>: )

   RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by ziggy on 6/10/2004 at 1:51:28 AM
Oh and yes, I did spell Surgeon as "sergion", and 2004 plus 7000 would really be 9004. Go ahead, say what you will. Mistakes like misplaced birth control happen. Whoops again! >: )

   RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by trikemaster on 6/10/2004 at 2:30:24 PM
Building a bike from scratch must have been a challenge seeing that you must be blind. Even if you go to you're beloved blackmetal bands' website, I can't find a picture of them WITHOUT makeup. Click on the images menu from after visiting, the link is below...


P.S. you talk about being original, then dis trikes. I have yet to see anyone EVER with a chopper trike like I have. And I'm talking the pedalling kind no motor. I'm done here, I hate talking to morons.

   RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by trikemaster on 6/10/2004 at 2:51:05 PM
Oh, I almost forgot. I think you fail to realize that anyone alive now will most certainly be dead long before your oh so dreaded apocalypse. This must be the same apocalypse that came in the year 1000, and 2000, oh yeah, and the one in 2001 for the people out there that know when the millennium actually changes.

So I guess I'll just bet you now; $1 million that your apocalypse doesn't happen in 7000 years. I'm sure you're immortal and will be able to witness it, since by listening to cheesy blackmetal you've somehow absorbed mystical superpowers through your headphones. And FYI, blackmetal bands (all of them wear makeup) were the KISS of the 90's. It's all a big dramatic show, why not listen to Deicide or Slayer, much more talented and they don't wear makeup.

And if by some longshot you do win the bet, have fun collecting money from me in 7000 years!!! aHA HA HA HAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH. It'll be in my rotting pocket AHAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

   RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by chopperzzzz on 6/10/2004 at 6:48:00 PM
Ziggy- bottom line is...I'm really glad you think I'm 13. If that is what it takes to make you feel superior, then by all means...think that I'm a spoiled 13 year old. I think anybody who reads this knows who the immature one is, I'm done fighting with you. You are big baby who has nothing better to do than sit and try to make himself think that he is superior by bashing innocent people trying to have a decent discussion about bicycles. So congrats to you...if you think you're so much better than everyone else. All that is left is this...I hope you are first and last one to die in your apocalypse. Have a good life (or lack there of.) And thanks to trike for calling him out on his like of make up wearing wannabes.

   RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by ziggy on 6/10/2004 at 8:50:08 PM
Trikemaster, look at the bikerodnkustom site. You are NOT the first one with a freaking chopper trike without a motor. And I do listen to Slayer and Deicide. (DUH) As for chopperzzzz, what kind of decent bicycle conversation begins by calling someone an idiot? !: 0 I don't feel superior by "bashing" "innocent" people. I to try to have a good chat with someone about bikes. Okay, it's settled. I don't hate you anymore, but I still don't like you whoever you are. However you stil didn't talk about your piece. Do you have one? !: 0 Trikemaster, it seems as if you are trying to prove your superiority by talking about your magnificant piece. Are you trying to tell the world something? "Nice" talking with you. Maybe. Maybe not. >: )

   RE:RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by offbrander on 6/14/2004 at 2:01:09 AM
I think ol' Ziggy there listens to too much "AFTER DARK WITH ART BELL". What a crock!

   RE:RE:RE:RE:WANTED:   chopper bike/lowrider/black/red-flame posted by the man on 6/24/2004 at 9:17:54 AM
salami slappers

AGE / VALUE:   wanted: Swing Bike posted by: Tom on 5/19/2004 at 9:46:05 PM
m looking for a swing bike in any cond email me at murrayfirecat77@aol.com

   RE:AGE / VALUE:   wanted: Swing Bike posted by Max on 5/20/2004 at 9:21:09 PM
don' sell to this guy he will rip you out

   RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   wanted: Swing Bike posted by Dave on 5/21/2004 at 8:28:01 PM
this guy is 12 or something and he causes a lot of problems
like Max said, careful and stay away

   RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   wanted: Swing Bike posted by tom on 5/22/2004 at 2:01:28 AM
i coudlnt afford his bike!! i had half of it then some other guy couldnt afford a bike he said he said hed take.. i dont rip people off....

   RE:RE:RE:RE:AGE / VALUE:   wanted: Swing Bike posted by ziggy on 5/26/2004 at 10:52:57 PM
yes you do. Stop covering up. >: /

WANTED:   Raleigh Twinshifter 3+2 speed posted by: TC on 5/15/2004 at 2:58:00 AM
I have a 1968 Raleigh Fireball Twinshift 3+2 speed and am looking for a new shifter cover. The cover I am looking for is black with a wood grain sticker on the side. It also states "Twinshift 3+2" or something like that. The numbers on top are colored (red, yellow and green, I think) and under a clear plastic lens which the indicator "rides" in. VVVintage had a 3 speed shifter with the plain black cover for sale last year. That cover is different. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks T.C.

   RE:WANTED:   Raleigh Twinshifter 3+2 speed posted by keyzkev on 5/17/2004 at 5:58:46 AM
Hi TC!
I forgot you had a Fireball!
I just bought one off ebay for £20!!
Could you tell me - is the dropout at the rear 3/8"?? - or is it 5/16" for the sturmey hub???
My fireball has the 5 spd derailleur crank on it - is the 5 spd frame different to a 3 / 3+2?????
cheers! - keyzkev

   RE:RE:WANTED:   Raleigh Twinshifter 3+2 speed posted by Russell on 5/18/2004 at 2:16:20 AM
Either your computer has a virus or someone is sending out Keyzkev e-mails with enclosed virus. You should check into it. My Yahoo e-mail account catches them.


   RE:WANTED:   Raleigh Twinshifter 3+2 speed posted by keyzkev on 5/19/2004 at 11:13:04 AM
Hi Russ
I am so sorry about this - I am doing my finals in college right now, so I have not had time to sort this out.
I have stopped using that email address, so Maybe you could block the address???
Or any other suggestions????
again - my apologies! - kev

   RE:RE:WANTED:   Raleigh Twinshifter 3+2 speed posted by Russell on 5/19/2004 at 8:43:28 PM
Good luck on the finals. I've got no clue on how to stop it. I guess I'll just block it. I'm wondering if anyone else is getting them.

   RE:WANTED:   Raleigh Twinshifter 3+2 speed posted by keyzkev on 5/21/2004 at 7:04:09 AM
You an Jim on this side of the pond - plenty of others on my side! - damn it!
Thanks for the good luck - got my last exam today!
hooray - then it's bike building time!!!
- kev

WANTED:   Huffy Slingshot posted by: Chuck Jones on 5/9/2004 at 11:48:45 PM
I have a 1969 Huffy Slignshot (which is my original bike!) that I am interested in restoring and need help finding the follwoing parts:

NOS or mint console with twin stick shifters
NOS or mint 'lime green metalflake' handgrips
NOS or mint 'lime green metalflake' Persons seat
NOS or mint read stripe rear cheater slick tire and 16" front tire
mint ape hanger handlebars
NOS or mint rear sissy bar w/mounting clips
NOS or mint pedals
NOS or mint chainguard

Or any other Huffy Slignshot parts.

Help with any or all of these parts is appreciated! Please contact me at 269-923-39341 or cjonesonthelake@hotmail.com

WANTED:   huffy wheel posted by: marty on 5/13/2004 at 1:02:15 PM
looking for huffy steering wheel bike with drag brake , in just about any condition , as long as it's all there . i am prepared to purchase all i can find . i am ready to buy immediately!!!!

WANTED:   s-7 tires for lil chik posted by: Gordon on 5/12/2004 at 8:12:14 PM
Where can I find 1 3/4" tires for s-7 rims. Looking for the front and especially the back slick.

thanks for any info.

   RE:WANTED:   s-7 tires for lil chik posted by JerryD on 5/13/2004 at 12:02:23 PM
They sell them here on this site.